I'm still waiting to see if the white woman who started all of this mess was the one adult that was arrested, but I won't hold my breath too long -- held it long enough!

Well the article said one of the families is planning to file assault charges against the white women who started with the racist comments and then the fight. Perhaps she will be arrested afterwards? But yeah, best not to hold your breath for that long, or you'll probably die of asphyxiation :(

It seems that the individual arrested was a 18yr old attempting to talk to the girl that was taken down, telling her that he has called her mother. He was arrested for interfering with an officer and avoiding his own arrest.

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

HOWEVER, what makes decent police officers continue doing their job when incidents such as this occur?

Police are, and have to be, practical.

It is a practical occupation. Where much bad, by everyone, is experienced and witnessed. Police therefore, don't expect good, only not too bad. It is the nature of that occupation.

Unlike 'Brain Dead' accusations: Most try to do their best.

Except for the ones who think they are Judge, QC's & jury. Actually slapped one down on Friday afternoon & there was no comeback on me. Details in the Rape thread after the case is over :-)

Of course you are correct.

Why would anyone believe my Post above, or previous Posting, believe differently?

You sure are busy this morning. Must be easy to make short responses to every current thread.

I'm still waiting to see if the white woman who started all of this mess was the one adult that was arrested, but I won't hold my breath too long -- held it long enough!

Well the article said one of the families is planning to file assault charges against the white women who started with the racist comments and then the fight. Perhaps she will be arrested afterwards? But yeah, best not to hold your breath for that long, or you'll probably die of asphyxiation :(

I'm pleasantly surprised no one got killed.

Which really is kinda sad, when the expectations are set so low that 'not killing people' means they are getting surpassed. Either way, this is still a terrible incident. Barging into a pool party and starting to go after a bunch of teens (of course only the non white ones) with overwhelming force.

Miles Jai Thomas who was at the pool party speaks out -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07/texas-pool-party_n_7530502.html

And, then we have this -- http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/texas-police-officer-suspended-after-pulling-weapon-on-teens?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.ejlwRe286

I'm still waiting to see if the white woman who started all of this mess was the one adult that was arrested, but I won't hold my breath too long -- held it long enough!

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I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I'm pleasantly surprised no one got killed.

Which really is kinda sad, when the expectations are set so low that 'not killing people' means they are getting surpassed. Either way, this is still a terrible incident. Barging into a pool party and starting to go after a bunch of teens (of course only the non white ones) with overwhelming force.

'Murica!

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

I'm pleasantly surprised no one got killed.

Which really is kinda sad, when the expectations are set so low that 'not killing people' means they are getting surpassed. Either way, this is still a terrible incident. Barging into a pool party and starting to go after a bunch of teens (of course only the non white ones) with overwhelming force.

HOWEVER, what makes decent police officers continue doing their job when incidents such as this occur?

Police are, and have to be, practical.

It is a practical occupation. Where much bad, by everyone, is experienced and witnessed. Police therefore, don't expect good, only not too bad. It is the nature of that occupation.

Unlike 'Brain Dead' accusations: Most try to do their best.

Except for the ones who think they are Judge, QC's & jury. Actually slapped one down on Friday afternoon & there was no comeback on me. Details in the Rape thread after the case is over :-)

wow Janne only 4 cows for a AK-47
umm 4 cows at $156 = $800 wow that is cheap hehehe

In Mogadishu, Somalia in 2012 it only cost 250 USD for one.
Now the kenyans can get a AK-47 for only one cow and a calf...

wow Janne only 4 cows for a AK-47

umm 4 cows at $156 = $800 wow that is cheap hehehe

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HOW MUCH FOR A KALASHNIKOV?
http://prospectjournal.org/2011/12/08/how-much-for-a-kalashnikov/

So, how much for an AK in Syria? Interestingly, the $2,500 price reported by my professor’s Syrian friend is actually abnormally high. AK-47s are typically much cheaper simply because so many have been produced that even the high demand doesn’t overwhelm the supply. Out of the 100 million AK line rifles manufactured, only one tenth were legally produced in Soviet arms factories or under license — the rest are unlicensed locally produced copies. The wide proliferation of locally produced AK variants have dramatically lowered their retail prices around the world. For example, in small rural Kenyan town in 1986 an AK could be purchased for 15 cows. By 2005 the price had fallen to four cows.

Adjust for inflation to find that answer.

I did !

How much does a brand new car cost ? more than 1/2 a month pay mate . Or a horse ?

A horse was expensive , feed , stable , horse shoes are all up keep and would have cost more than bullets or a gun witch would have been a one off expense and bullets would only need to be bought when you ran low .

So they where cheap .

EDIT: you would need to buy a saddle and they are very expensive even at today's prices

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Punched & kicked while handcuffed?

Common event http://ktla.com/2015/06/05/verdict-reached-in-trial-of-lapd-officer-accused-of-assault-in-womans-death/

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Punched & kicked while handcuffed?

"GMP and Manchester Airport both say that he is not a member of their staff."

So why didn't the police arrest that man?

"The passerby claims he was told to stop filming after one of the men was seen to be aiming a kick at the arrested man's face.

The passerby said: 'I was told to stop filming because it was a private building and for security reasons.'"

So that makes the assault legal does it?

Edit: -

HOWEVER, what makes decent police officers continue doing their job when incidents such as this occur?

Judge tells policeman "It is a pleasure to set you free"

It really is time that the CPS gets reformed. Many within that organisation need Cameron's "Dyno-rod" placed where it would do some good.

They were not cheap. My google source listed a brand new Colt .45 Peacemaker at $17.00 US dollars in 1873. That same source also stated that cowboys were paid $1.00 US dollar a day. So you are talking about a cowboy shelling out over a half a months pay.

As i said James it was cheap . 1/2 months pay is cheap . How much does a brand new car cost ? more than 1/2 a month pay mate . Or a horse ?
I didn't mean a showdown . So your saying the shoot out at the O.K corral didn't happen ?
How did Jesse James get his reputation then and what about Butch Cassidy and the sun dance kid , darn there i was liking the westerns and you tell me it didn't happen how boring .:)

Adjust for inflation to find that answer.

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Old James

Do you wish me to include it in this Thread?

A link would suffice.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

I wonder why it's called Peacemaker and why so many civilians used it...

It was cheap , easy to use and deadly , and probably got it name because when you wanted peace and quiet you just shoot the person or person's disturbing you .

The local law person was a sheriff . who may have been appointed or elected and was paid by the local council and the Mayor was also elected and was usually the man with the most money and that meant the sheriff was possibly corrupt so no one would get arrested if you killed someone whom wasn't liked much by the towns people .

Not much has changed only the weapon can now fire more rounds the police are still underpaid and the corruption is still there or at least that is what it seems like .

They were not cheap. My google source listed a brand new Colt .45 Peacemaker at $17.00 US dollars in 1873. That same source also stated that cowboys were paid $1.00 US dollar a day. So you are talking about a cowboy shelling out over a half a months pay. I havent goolged what ammunition cost yet, But from the gist of what I have read was expensive also. Yes the cowboy got food and lodging, But he had to buy his own clothes and gear.

And stop judgeing the US on Hollywood cowboy movies. Historians so far only know of one case of the showdown in the streets. And Wild Bill Hickock was the one who won. And then he got shot in the back of the head playing cards.

You might look up The King - Carlisle gunfight at the Bella Union hotel on July 6, 1865.

I just finished reading it. That was the kings going into a baroom with guns allreadt drawn. That is not the same as two men standing in the street facing each other waiting for the other to draw.
And Glenn dont rely on hollwood to learn truth. If you want a definetive account on the OK Corral look up, Massad Ayoob, He writes about historical gun fights in the US.

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Old James

What exactly is the problem?

470 people so far this year (2015)

Less the ones you mention say 450 ! and 103 unarmed PEOPLE so far out of that total this year

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Just another Ideological Agenda we have to suffer.

I think Мишель covered this already.

He's your attribution?

I showed why he is incorrect, of course.

I stand by my 100% correct interpretation of Ideologues.

You guys/gals do prove me correct.

Do you understand? Of course not. Just your way.

You didn't show anything.

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Reality Internet Personality

May 11: Kelvin Goldston (Black Male, 30): wanted felon, hit a police officer with his car (remember, vehicle = deadly weapon) while fleeing arrest.

That seems to be the exception in the struck by vehicle class, the others I clicked on were all ordinary traffic accidents.

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And no one is shooting.

Everyday, every hour.

Most untrue.

The Guardian, People killed by police in the US, interactive listing: at the moment, 470 killings counted this year.

Direct links appear not to work, but try copy-pasting the URLs into browser:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-map-us-police-killings

That figure (470) is misleading and incomplete.

It is misleading because it *includes* people using firearms to commit crimes of violence who were shot and killed by police responding to the incident.

Case in point: Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi on May 3rd in Garland Texas.

Simpson and Soofi drove into the parking lot at an art exhibition/contest in Garland, Texas, exited their vehicle, and opened fire on a police officer, wounding him. They were then shot dead. They are ON the list, even though the police officers acted totally properly in doing so.

Another case in point: The Bandidos/Cossacks criminal biker gang war in Waco, Texas on May 18th that left 9 dead and 18 wounded. Four of the nine dead were shot and killed by police responding to the incident in proper performance of their duty. Why are they left OFF the list?

But, that aside... Let us look at the numbers. 470 people so far this year (2015). That works out to somewhere around 1000 people a year. In a nation of over 300 million.

300,000,000 divided by 1000....

That works out to 1 out of 300,000 people killed by police per year, MOST of which are totally justified.

This figure is not very large at all, considering that most of the incidents were justified. Let us examine the data from that website filtering it for Texas and May 2015.

May 3: Elton Simpson (Black Male 30) shot by police when he attacked an art exhibition and had already shot a police officer.

May 3: Nadir Soofi (Asian/Pacific Islander Male, 34) shot by police when he attacked an art exhibition and had already shot a police officer.

May 11: Kelvin Goldston (Black Male, 30): wanted felon, hit a police officer with his car (remember, vehicle = deadly weapon) while fleeing arrest.

May 21: David Gandara (Hispanic/Latino Male, 22): Armed man at a children's daycare facility. Police shot him when he went for his gun.

May 25: Cassandra Bolin (White Female, 31): At the end of a 5 hour standoff, she was shot and killed by a SWAT sniper when she pointed a gun at other police officers.

That is all 5 that that website lists for Texas in May 2015. All 5 were totally justified use of force by police.

Yes, there ARE cases where a police officer goes apesh*t and uses deadly force on an individual when it is NOT justified. But, that is rather rare. MOST uses of deadly force by a police officer are justified.

What exactly is the problem?