I AM GOD, they gave me a badge!

Thank God you're not a Police Officer.

Your 'Thinking' and 'Knee Jerk' opinion of what Others do: May just be a reflection.

But the part in the video where he tampers with the evidence shows a consciousness of guilt. If that video wasn't recorded by a non-officer so it could not be suppressed .......

DOUBLE Thank God your not a Police Officer.

DOUBLE You're 'Thinking' and 'Knee Jerk' opinion of what Others do: May just be a reflection.

So aren't police officers accountable to the public?

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Shot 8 times in the back after stopping for an allegedly broken tail light. Cop originally claimed that he felt threatened, but after video surfaces showing him shooting a man in the back, he is fired from police force.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/cop-charged-with-murder-after-video-shows-him-shooting-fleeing-suspect/

That'll teach you for fleeing from a cop in a police state! RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!

I AM GOD, they gave me a badge!

But the part in the video where he tampers with the evidence shows a consciousness of guilt. If that video wasn't recorded by a non-officer so it could not be suppressed .......

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Shot 8 times in the back after stopping for an allegedly broken tail light. Cop originally claimed that he felt threatened, but after video surfaces showing him shooting a man in the back, he is fired from police force.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/cop-charged-with-murder-after-video-shows-him-shooting-fleeing-suspect/

That'll teach you for fleeing from a cop in a police state! RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!

Actually, if you speak to Police Officers, most want videos. NOT Defense Lawyers, of course.

That of course depends on if they (the police) are the defendant.

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Interesting report

It does make one think about modern technology...

..Will the time come where police officers hesitate to shoot due to all the controlled & uncontrolled surveillance out there, which then costs them or an innocent bystander their lives?

Perhaps a few more incidents on video and the training standard of shoot first, plant evidence later will get revised.

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Interesting report

It does make one think about modern technology...

..Will the time come where police officers hesitate to shoot due to all the controlled & uncontrolled surveillance out there, which then costs them or an innocent bystander their lives?

First get beaten by cops .....
Then have your shyster rip you off
http://westsidetoday.com/2015/03/19/l-a-federal-judge-in-chp-beating-case-calls-lawyer-exploitive/

A Los Angeles federal judge today blasted the fees charged by an attorney for an emotionally troubled woman who was beaten by a California Highway Patrol officer on the Santa Monica (10) Freeway as “exploitive.”

In an unusual hearing, U.S. District Judge Otis D. Wright III questioned family members of Marlene Pinnock, who was awarded $1.5 million from the CHP as part of a settlement that also included the resignation of the officer who beat her.

Wright said he wanted to make sure Pinnock “is not ripped off by her lawyer.”

Personally, I would be more afraid of the lawyers than the police officers when it comes to having my rights violated. But, that is just my own opinion. YMMV, SSFD.

First get beaten by cops .....
Then have your shyster rip you off
http://westsidetoday.com/2015/03/19/l-a-federal-judge-in-chp-beating-case-calls-lawyer-exploitive/

A Los Angeles federal judge today blasted the fees charged by an attorney for an emotionally troubled woman who was beaten by a California Highway Patrol officer on the Santa Monica (10) Freeway as “exploitive.”

In an unusual hearing, U.S. District Judge Otis D. Wright III questioned family members of Marlene Pinnock, who was awarded $1.5 million from the CHP as part of a settlement that also included the resignation of the officer who beat her.

Wright said he wanted to make sure Pinnock “is not ripped off by her lawyer.”

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Yet another .....
http://www.local21news.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/2b2996ff-www.local21news.com.shtml#.VQdKd-H1qk8

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Ah, all those head shrink tests they give to cops to be sure they are certified good guys work 100%!

Killer Cop
http://mynewsla.com/crime/2015/03/15/rookie-lapd-officer-person-of-interest-in-fatal-fistfight-missing/

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Ah, the one shot myth .....
http://mynewsla.com/crime/2015/03/13/suspect-shot-by-deputies-after-chase-ends-in-south-los-angeles/
http://abc7.com/news/chase-suspect-shot-by-deputies-in-south-los-angeles-surrenders/557515/
Through and through hit at 5:25, finally walks over and gives up at about 6:45.

Yep, one bullet is enough.

Thats one reason the US army went back to the .45 caliber after the Moro expierance in the Phillipens. Its also why the US military is complaining about the 9MM now. Becuase the Geneva convention outlaws hollowpoint ammunition.
Grenades and artillry shells are Ok to shred human flesh, But using an effective bullet to save your ass in combat is not? Its idiotic.
The miltary has to use ball ammo. Id rather use .45 ball then 9 MM ball.
I would hope that at some point in the sorry history of us humans, Is that we dont need to kill each other. Yeah like that will ever happen:(

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Ah, the one shot myth .....
http://mynewsla.com/crime/2015/03/13/suspect-shot-by-deputies-after-chase-ends-in-south-los-angeles/
http://abc7.com/news/chase-suspect-shot-by-deputies-in-south-los-angeles-surrenders/557515/
Through and through hit at 5:25, finally walks over and gives up at about 6:45.

Yep, one bullet is enough.

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I do bow to your Personal Experiences and Expertise in this Wiggo.

HAHAhahahahahahahahahahaha...........

:) :) :)

I see that you're still making posts that you don't like being made by others Clyde. ;-)

Ever heard of the word "hypocrite"?

Or even what it pertains to?

It doesn't really matter anyway, just keep up the comedy relief buddy so we can keep on laughing. ;-)

Cheers.

I will bow to your ignorance in this matter.

It's nice to see you making the type of post that you complain about others doing Clyde.

HAHAhahahahahahahahahahaha...........

Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

I guess the news in AU is a bit old and stale. The other videos, there are several, which have been broadcast here in Los Angeles show the convicted bank robber and international identity thief in a less favorable light, especially the one showing him dealing drugs about an hour before he met his maker. Allegedly the police body camera video(s) shows him grabbing an officer's gun. That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

We saw 2 videos here of the incident yesterday down at the pub on the news Gary (just slightly different angles), can you provide other links?

My 3 local copper mates, that I was having a couple of beers with at the time, were quite shocked by the 2 videos we saw here and 1 of them started pointing out several mistakes made by these officers, the 1st dragging the fellow out of his tent instead of just filling the tent with capsicum spray to force him out (reason being that no one could stay in such a small space filled with that stuff), but all agreed that 1 shot should've been enough at that range and 2 would've been overkill (even with crappy cop loads).

Cheers.

Agree, until number of shots needed. What are your personal experiences regarding this?

Just a repeating of a previous Post.

Had a Human Being, charging towards us, armed with a rife, attempting to kill us, with half his torso 'Blown Out'. Just one of many, many, many examples.

No one, with any experience: Knows what it takes to 'Stop' someone.

Well as to the number of shots in that post was made by my copper mates (but I have to thoroughly agree with them).

As to experience, I'm quite familiar with the damage made by bullets (.22 all the way to .470 cal) and shotguns can do to feral animals ranging from rats/rabbits all the way up to water buffalo. Now having a ton of angry water buffalo charging at you certainly gets the juices running, but 1 shot is still enough to drop them in their tracks.

Sorry, but I (and many others in more civilised countries) can only view these incidents as over the top "wild west shoot 'em up" actions and until you people over there start to change your gun mad culture it'll just keep being seen as such.

Now what if 1 of those cops involved were hit by a ricochet in those close quarters? But then again you'd probably just shrug that off as bad luck I guess. :-(

Cheers.

Case in point. I have a brother-in-law that is...

Same here, but a bit more distant. Mother is aging, and his 'close' relatives cannot care for him when...

On the streets?

Treating these, and others, as children, was a question. Not an answer.

I realized that you were giving it as a question, but then as I see it it may be the ONLY possible answer.

MajorKong...

Consider Severely Mentally Ill Persons, as we consider Children?

Yes, because Children themselves, cannot make their own Mature/Adult decisions: The State takes over from the parents. Yes, I do understand that problem.

Severely Mentally Ill = Children?

That is one way, sure. But you would have to consider them more as toddlers. Things have changed since I (and I think you too) was/were a child. Children (especially older children) have a LOT more rights and freedom of action today than they had say about 50 years ago when I was a child.

But that still leaves the question: Even if we figure out some way to force them to accept treatment, (as you mentioned) how the unholy fark are we gonna pay for it?

In the USA (and almost certainly much of the rest of the world), we spend FAR too much money protecting people from the negative consequences of bad decisions (as well as the random cases of 'sh^t happens') to be able to afford to pay for stuff that, well, we really NEED.

Case in point. I have a brother-in-law that is... well... 'slow', He (he is, I think, 40) has the mental capacity of an average 5 year old. He is unable to have/hold a job, has temper issues, and requires a high level of supervision. Once his parents are unable to care for him (due to age) I have no idea what he is going to do. My wife and I can't, due to our own children, and neither is his other sister (same reason). He really needs institutional care, but as you mentioned the State institutions all got shut down, and the private ones are rather pricey.

This nation does not have the money/wealth (any more) at today's price levels to take care of EVERYONE's needs and wants. So, we have to prioritize. What gets priority? Those that have screwed themselves up? Or those that are screwed up through no fault of their own (as in born that way)?

Major, you are quite right to comment on the schizophrenia of the courts on forced treatments, where adults can not be made to be sane, but parents of children are forced to medicate. Such idiocy pervades the legal system.

The country cannot continue to have skid row function as the hospital for the mentally ill.

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Another case of the failed system we have for mental patients in the states.

Leaving out what SOME Officers reaction are:

YES.

In the US, we emptied out, and closed our Mental Institutions, in the 1970's, because of perceived, and factual problems. And of course, money.

However, we never came up with an effective alternative.

I agree, but you left out (or glossed over) an important issue.

Rights.

Courts have been ruling for quite some time that people could not be forced to submit to medical treatment against their will (though strangely enough, it doesn't seem to apply to children getting treatment against their parents' will -- usually over religious grounds), even *IF* the person refusing treatment has been ruled mentally incompetent.

We need to do something, if for no other reason than the staggeringly high numbers of mentally incompetent among the homeless. But what?

Absent a criminal conviction, it is exceedingly difficult to force the mentally ill to submit to treatment against their will, and even if it wasn't there is a distinct shortage of funds to do so with.

Anyone here have any ideas on the subject? Or, are we stuck with the status quo where we have to wait until the mentally ill commit a crime and hope they can get some help while in prison?

Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

I guess the news in AU is a bit old and stale. The other videos, there are several, which have been broadcast here in Los Angeles show the convicted bank robber and international identity thief in a less favorable light, especially the one showing him dealing drugs about an hour before he met his maker. Allegedly the police body camera video(s) shows him grabbing an officer's gun. That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

We saw 2 videos here of the incident yesterday down at the pub on the news Gary (just slightly different angles), can you provide other links?

My 3 local copper mates, that I was having a couple of beers with at the time, were quite shocked by the 2 videos we saw here and 1 of them started pointing out several mistakes made by these officers, the 1st dragging the fellow out of his tent instead of just filling the tent with capsicum spray to force him out (reason being that no one could stay in such a small space filled with that stuff), but all agreed that 1 shot should've been enough at that range and 2 would've been overkill (even with crappy cop loads).

Cheers.

Agree, until number of shots needed. What are your personal experiences regarding this?

Just a repeating of a previous Post.

Had a Human Being, charging towards us, armed with a rife, attempting to kill us, with half his torso 'Blown Out'. Just one of many, many, many examples.

No one, with any experience: Knows what it takes to 'Stop' someone.

Another case of the failed system we have for mental patients in the states.
And you shoot until the threat is now longer a threat. Forget that Hollywood fanatsy of aiming to wound. That gets you killed.

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