You don't progress beyond Inspector in the UK unless you are in Lodge.

So we can safely assume that they're all as bent as a ten bob note then.

The phrase is 'bent as a nine bob note'. Ten bob notes were real things.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

I guess the news in AU is a bit old and stale. The other videos, there are several, which have been broadcast here in Los Angeles show the convicted bank robber and international identity thief in a less favorable light, especially the one showing him dealing drugs about an hour before he met his maker. Allegedly the police body camera video(s) shows him grabbing an officer's gun. That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

We saw 2 videos here of the incident yesterday down at the pub on the news Gary (just slightly different angles), can you provide other links?

My 3 local copper mates, that I was having a couple of beers with at the time, were quite shocked by the 2 videos we saw here and 1 of them started pointing out several mistakes made by these officers, the 1st dragging the fellow out of his tent instead of just filling the tent with capsicum spray to force him out (reason being that no one could stay in such a small space filled with that stuff), but all agreed that 1 shot should've been enough at that range and 2 would've been overkill (even with crappy cop loads).

Cheers.

Wiggo,

Perhaps you do not know the full story in this case.

Per that news story you linked, 'Africa' was in the midst of an argument with another person *inside* the tent when officers arrived on scene to enforce the court order evicting 'Africa' and his tent from its location.

You are going to spray 'pepper spray' inside a confined space? Especially when there is a 3rd party inside? Depending on possible health problems, that could be fatal to either one of the individuals inside the tent.

Or, would you do as the officers did and remove 'Africa' from the tent for the safety of the other person and deal with 'Africa' outside?

'Africa' then started a struggle with the 4 police officers. The officers tried a Taser on him, but it had no effect (or at least not full effect).

'Africa' then grabbed one of the officer's handguns. As Gary stated:

That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

Excessive force used? Nope. The officer whose gun was grabbed backed off, as he should have. The other 3 officers open fire on 'Africa'. Some reports say 7 shots were fired, some say 5 shots fired, *in total*. On the video linked, I heard 5 shots. With 5 shots fired, that is *at most* one officer firing 3 times, with the other 2 firing once, and most likely 2 firing 2 shots with the third firing 1 shot. Back when I used to carry a badge and a gun, we were trained that if we had to shoot, we were to fire 3 shots at 'center of mass'. Hardly excessive. Even with 7 shots fired, that is likely 3, 3, and 1 or 3, 2, and 2.

Yes, all three officers reacted and used their handguns on 'Africa' once he grabbed the other officer's handgun. You have to react instantly. What were the officers supposed to do? Should they have had a huddle and decide 'OK, officer Smith, it is your turn, you shoot the perp'? While that huddle was going on, 'Africa' could have easily dropped all 4 police and maybe a few innocent bystanders as well. No, you react instantly, and each one of the three had to act as if *he* was the ONLY officer reacting.

Officer: He got my gun! *Blam!Blam!Blam!Blam!Blam!*

More background on 'Africa'. 'Africa' had a history of violence, especially recently at the nearby homeless shelter. 'Africa' had been confined for treatment of a mental problem (brought on by drugs) a few months earlier. 'Africa' had very recently shoved the tent of another homeless person he had a disagreement with out into traffic in the street, with the other person inside it. This was one of the items that lead to his court-ordered 'eviction' from that urban tent-city.

'Africa' was NOT Mr. Innocent. Yes, it is sad that he died, but HE BROUGHT IT ON HIMSELF.

Yes, in the USA (and very likely elsewhere) there ARE some instances of the police using unjustified levels of force against some people. This is not one of those instances.

If 'Africa' had respectfully obeyed the instructions of the police officers sent out to enforce that court order, and calmly packed up his possessions and left the area per that court order, he would still be alive. He didn't. He physically resisted the police and grabbed one of their weapons. The officers had no choice. They had to render him dead.

Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

I guess the news in AU is a bit old and stale. The other videos, there are several, which have been broadcast here in Los Angeles show the convicted bank robber and international identity thief in a less favorable light, especially the one showing him dealing drugs about an hour before he met his maker. Allegedly the police body camera video(s) shows him grabbing an officer's gun. That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

We saw 2 videos here of the incident yesterday down at the pub on the news Gary (just slightly different angles), can you provide other links?

My 3 local copper mates, that I was having a couple of beers with at the time, were quite shocked by the 2 videos we saw here and 1 of them started pointing out several mistakes made by these officers, the 1st dragging the fellow out of his tent instead of just filling the tent with capsicum spray to force him out (reason being that no one could stay in such a small space filled with that stuff), but all agreed that 1 shot should've been enough at that range and 2 would've been overkill (even with crappy cop loads).

Cheers.

Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

I guess the news in AU is a bit old and stale. The other videos, there are several, which have been broadcast here in Los Angeles show the convicted bank robber and international identity thief in a less favorable light, especially the one showing him dealing drugs about an hour before he met his maker. Allegedly the police body camera video(s) shows him grabbing an officer's gun. That is an automatic death sentence anywhere police are armed.

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Five shots at "point-blank-range" into homeless man. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/footage-of-la-police-shooting-a-homeless-man-dead-on-the-street-posted-to-facebook/story-fnh81jut-1227245233525

Another "over-the-top" act by officers. :-(

The CHP beating case isn't over, even months after it has been settled!

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-chp-beating-attorney-contempt-20150303-story.html

Lawyer in CHP beating case refuses to answer judge, is held in contempt

The attorney representing a woman beaten by a California Highway Patrol officer on the 10 Freeway in Los Angeles was declared in contempt of court by a federal judge and taken into custody Monday.

Caree Harper drew the sanction because she refused to tell the judge how she first met her client and when she learned her client might be mentally incompetent.

Harper will remain in custody "until such time she is willing to answer the court’s questions,” according to the minutes of her appearance read in court Monday.

Harper represents Marlene Pinnock, 51, who was punched repeatedly by former CHP Officer Daniel Andrew when she was arrested July 1.

Drivers had reported that Pinnock was walking into lanes on the freeway, and Andrew said she resisted arrest. She was detained after the incident on a mental health hold and eventually released without charges.

Pinnock’s arrest on the shoulder of the 10 Freeway near LaBrea Avenue was recorded on video by a passing motorist and posted on YouTube. The video, which showed Andrew straddling Pinnock punching her in the face, garnered national media attention and galvanized South L.A. civic leaders behind Pinnock.

The CHP settled the case in September for $1.5 million and fired Andrew.

According to court documents, Judge Otis D. Wright II on Feb. 19 ordered Harper to return to court Monday with a copy of the contingency fee agreement she reached with Pinnock. Wright also ordered her not to incur any more costs or make any more payments with Pinnock’s portion of the settlement without his approval.

The exchange between Wright and Harper on Monday was “tense,” said Laura Vega, a deputy U.S. marshal who assisted in taking Harper into custody.

Calls to Harper's law firm, her client’s family and the opposing attorney who was present Monday had not been returned by midafternoon Tuesday. Judge Wright also did not return a call for comment.

The circumstances around Harper’s detention are extremely rare, Vega said. Harper wasn’t prepared to go to jail, and the deputy marshals didn’t know how long they were going to keep her.

“It was a little strange for us,” he said.

Harper’s co-counsel on the case, civil rights attorney John Burris, said he was not aware of what the judge’s concerns could be, that he wasn’t there when Harper met Pinnock, and that he didn’t know the details of their financial agreement.

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I see that the Justice Dept. review of Ferguson is out.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/03/03/ferguson-justice-report/24320987/

African Americans account for 67% of the population in Ferguson, but they accounted for 85% of the drivers stopped by police, 90% of the people issued tickets and 93% of the people arrested, a three-year examination of suspect stops found. When those cases reached the Municipal Court, authorities collected more fines for suspects' failure to appear than any other charge, mostly from the city's poorest and most vulnerable residents.

African Americans were more than twice as likely than white drivers to be searched during vehicle stops, but 26% less likely to have contraband, the review found.

You broken OUR AGREEMENT!!!

Clyde your delusions amaze me.

Delusions in the 21st century amaze you? Are you deluded?

You broken OUR AGREEMENT!!!

Clyde your delusions amaze me.

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You don't progress beyond Inspector in the UK unless you are in Lodge.

So we can safely assume that they're all as bent as a ten bob note then.

You don't progress beyond Inspector in the UK unless you are in Lodge.

You're the one being childish. When something rotten is pointed out to you within a service that you served in, you ignore it & continuously defend the rest.

No one is saying all cops are bad, but the ones that are cause issues for those who are not.

So, should we ignore the bad all because people such as yourself state that the majority are good?

It is the blue code that no officer ever will do his duty and report a bad cop, but hey, they are union workers, and no union worker ever reports another union worker. Just the number one problem with the police.

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You're the one being childish. When something rotten is pointed out to you within a service that you served in, you ignore it & continuously defend the rest.

No one is saying all cops are bad, but the ones that are cause issues for those who are not.

So, should we ignore the bad all because people such as yourself state that the majority are good?

There can be 779,999 apples in a barrel, it only takes one rotten one to destroy the rest.

Technically it isn't the rotten apple, but the bacteria causing the rot, the rotten just allows the bacteria to multiply.

Quite true, but that bacteria seems to be working much faster lately.

Unknown if that is true.

Does 24/7 News and Internet, make every local situation, known?

Not just in this matter. But everything else?

So you admit that "something is rotten"?

There can be 779,999 apples in a barrel, it only takes one rotten one to destroy the rest.

Technically it isn't the rotten apple, but the bacteria causing the rot, the rotten just allows the bacteria to multiply.

Quite true, but that bacteria seems to be working much faster lately.

There can be 779,999 apples in a barrel, it only takes one rotten one to destroy the rest.

Technically it isn't the rotten apple, but the bacteria causing the rot, the rotten just allows the bacteria to multiply.

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There can be 779,999 apples in a barrel, it only takes one rotten one to destroy the rest.

Drivel on

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Does any cop in the States have any common sense?

Common sense is dead cop, they intentionally train it out of them.

With some of the stories, you sometimes have to wonder if some of the police have actually been trained at all. And that seem to assume people are guilty before checking any facts.

Whatever happened to habeas corpus.

There are many, many, many PD's in The USA. With Different Training, Different Standards, Different Laws, etc.

And?

That may explain but it does NOT EXCUSE!

Who excused anything?

It was the ridiculous accusation(s) that Most, or a large percentage of Professors are... Because last year X Number Committed something negative.
You babel.
Just change Professor to Cop. Same Unthinking.

You babel

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Me thinks I posted the trvth and the residents are upset.

Every cop has to think every person he approaches is guilty until proven innocent. If he doesn't one time, just one time, the cop will make a widow. The code is "officer safety" and it trumps all laws and covers all cop shootings. It is a very ugly concept, but the police unions fought very very very hard to make every court in the land swallow the bilge and they won.

As to habius corpus, well, that happens in courts, not on the street. In this case it happened eventually.

Now to scare you good, think bit rot on a government registration database.

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