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Message 1607127 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 3:34:23 UTC

Since Seti has been down about a week now, I've been running Einstein. Then somewhere on this msgboard I read where I can number crunch Bitcoin Utopia to help raise money for SETI. Sounds like a better thing to do, so attached to that project. But it "appears" my CPU is doing nothing, and my time countdown on each task advances about 1 second every 10 minutes. Is something wrong?
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Message 1607223 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 11:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 1607127.  

Under Bitcoin Utopia preferences select only these applications:

CudaMiner (Campaign #5)
CPUMiner (Campaign #5)
sgminer (Campaign #5)

Other applications which have ASICs on their name requires special ASIC bitcoin mining -device. More about ASICs
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Message 1607232 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 12:12:16 UTC - in response to Message 1607223.  

I am currently running Einstein on all my machines that have run out of SETI work and will probably run out of seti tasks today on all but one machine that snaged a few a couple of days ago after it ran out and I had already started running Einstein on it. I just read about this project on this thread so I went to attach it on the machine that currently has no Einstein tasks and is about to run out of SETI. As far as I can see there is no Bitcoin or Utopia listed. So what exactly is this and how can I attach to it? If it doesn't run under BOINC I probably will just forget it anyway info about this would be helpful. Thanks
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Message 1607234 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 12:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 1607232.  

So what exactly is this and how can I attach to it? If it doesn't run under BOINC I probably will just forget it anyway info about this would be helpful. Thanks


Bitcoin Utopia is not listed on BOINC project list, so You have to add it manually. Insert http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/ in Project URL box when adding a new project.

And remember to select applications under project preferences like I posted here.
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Message 1607241 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 13:39:23 UTC - in response to Message 1607234.  

Thanks, got it attached!
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Message 1607246 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 14:13:29 UTC

Been running Bitcoin Utopia for a full 24 hours now. I've done as told and selected Campaign #5 only. Then I went through my setup and aborted all but #5's. However, this morning I see it's still getting all Campaigns for crunching. Is that right?
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Message 1607256 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 14:49:57 UTC - in response to Message 1607246.  

Check again Your Bitcoin Utopia preferences, and take a close look at "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?". Unchecked it.

Sometimes BU runs out of work in CPU/GPU category and it sends another project tasks to run.
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Message 1607257 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 14:51:54 UTC

Well I got it attached and after some fooling around got it running only #5 tasks but they all very quickly got computing errors. The machine it on is a laptop but a new one and should of been capable of doing everything but the cuda, technically it could even do cuda but I stopped running cuda on laptops because of problems. Anyway I'm not sure why the compute errors and I'll deal with them a bit more later today and maybe try bitcoin on a better machine. Anyone else have issues with compute errors on bitcoin.
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Message 1607261 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 15:05:52 UTC - in response to Message 1607257.  

Well I got it attached and after some fooling around got it running only #5 tasks but they all very quickly got computing errors. The machine it on is a laptop but a new one and should of been capable of doing everything but the cuda, technically it could even do cuda but I stopped running cuda on laptops because of problems. Anyway I'm not sure why the compute errors and I'll deal with them a bit more later today and maybe try bitcoin on a better machine. Anyone else have issues with compute errors on bitcoin.


Check Your Antivirus preferences, some of them (like Avira) think that files You need to download are infected with virus.

Exclude Your BOINC data folders in Your antivirus programs and try again. (Reset project on BOINC Manager)
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Message 1607269 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 15:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 1607261.  
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Well I got it attached and after some fooling around got it running only #5 tasks but they all very quickly got computing errors. The machine it on is a laptop but a new one and should of been capable of doing everything but the cuda, technically it could even do cuda but I stopped running cuda on laptops because of problems. Anyway I'm not sure why the compute errors and I'll deal with them a bit more later today and maybe try bitcoin on a better machine. Anyone else have issues with compute errors on bitcoin.

Check Your Antivirus preferences, some of them (like Avira) think that files You need to download are infected with virus.

Exclude Your BOINC data folders in Your antivirus programs and try again. (Reset project on BOINC Manager)

Excluding the download destination folder from scheduled and 'on access' scanning doesn't necessarily help if the download is being blocked before arrival by a 'heuristic' or behavioural shield component of the AV suite.
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Message 1607285 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 15:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 1607257.  

Well I got it attached and after some fooling around got it running only #5 tasks but they all very quickly got computing errors. The machine it on is a laptop but a new one and should of been capable of doing everything but the cuda, technically it could even do cuda but I stopped running cuda on laptops because of problems. Anyway I'm not sure why the compute errors and I'll deal with them a bit more later today and maybe try bitcoin on a better machine. Anyone else have issues with compute errors on bitcoin.

Did you only select the applications WezH listed?
CudaMiner (Campaign #5) - For CUDA GPUs
CPUMiner (Campaign #5) - For CPU
sgminer (Campaign #5) - For ATI/AMD GPUs
If any of the others apps are sent to your machine they will defiantly error. Unless you have the specific ASIC hardware connected to your PC. Unlike GPU detection the servers doesn't know if you have any ASIC devices. So will send work if the app is selected for it.
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Message 1607392 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 21:19:49 UTC

Turned out to be the anti-virus. Should have known, had this problem before. Thanks
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Message 1607542 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 4:11:48 UTC

Well this is odd. I've a Dell T-710 computer with 2 NUMA 6-core processors which gives me 24 virtual processors when running Windows Server 2012R2 and version 5.10.45 of the BOINC software. It's processing and crunching Bitcoin Utopia with no issues, completing a WU about every minute.
I've another identical Dell T-710 computer but this one has Windows 7 Pro on it. So it can only see 16 of the 24 processors. It's running the latest/newest version of the BOINC software. But for this setup, I get "no tasks sent - don't need" from Bitcoin Utopia. So this machine is processing nothing. Been this way all day. I've even uninstall/reinstalled BOINC. No change. Any suggestions?
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Message 1607551 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 4:43:50 UTC - in response to Message 1607542.  

Well this is odd. I've a Dell T-710 computer with 2 NUMA 6-core processors which gives me 24 virtual processors when running Windows Server 2012R2 and version 5.10.45 of the BOINC software. It's processing and crunching Bitcoin Utopia with no issues, completing a WU about every minute.
I've another identical Dell T-710 computer but this one has Windows 7 Pro on it. So it can only see 16 of the 24 processors. It's running the latest/newest version of the BOINC software. But for this setup, I get "no tasks sent - don't need" from Bitcoin Utopia. So this machine is processing nothing. Been this way all day. I've even uninstall/reinstalled BOINC. No change. Any suggestions?


Windows 7 Professional 32bit supports 2 sockets, up to 32 cores. Windows 7 Professional 64bit supports 2 sockets, up to 256 cores. May need to look into that problem first.

As for the no tasks sent, I would start with your resource shares. Uninstalling and re-installing BOINC isn't going to make it change it's mind about not needing more tasks. :-D
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Message 1607553 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 4:46:30 UTC - in response to Message 1607542.  
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Well this is odd. I've a Dell T-710 computer with 2 NUMA 6-core processors which gives me 24 virtual processors when running Windows Server 2012R2 and version 5.10.45 of the BOINC software. It's processing and crunching Bitcoin Utopia with no issues, completing a WU about every minute.
I've another identical Dell T-710 computer but this one has Windows 7 Pro on it. So it can only see 16 of the 24 processors. It's running the latest/newest version of the BOINC software. But for this setup, I get "no tasks sent - don't need" from Bitcoin Utopia. So this machine is processing nothing. Been this way all day. I've even uninstall/reinstalled BOINC. No change. Any suggestions?

If you have the resource share for that project set to 0 then increase it to above 0 (apparently later BOINC versions don't like 0).

[edit] And as Ozzfan said, if you can't see all those threads then you have a problem of a different nature.

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Message 1607672 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 12:46:18 UTC - in response to Message 1607542.  

Well this is odd. I've a Dell T-710 computer with 2 NUMA 6-core processors which gives me 24 virtual processors when running Windows Server 2012R2 and version 5.10.45 of the BOINC software. It's processing and crunching Bitcoin Utopia with no issues, completing a WU about every minute.
I've another identical Dell T-710 computer but this one has Windows 7 Pro on it. So it can only see 16 of the 24 processors. It's running the latest/newest version of the BOINC software. But for this setup, I get "no tasks sent - don't need" from Bitcoin Utopia. So this machine is processing nothing. Been this way all day. I've even uninstall/reinstalled BOINC. No change. Any suggestions?

Your host that is only giving you 16 threads is doing so because there are only 16. Two CPUs with 4c/8t.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6967
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Message 1607829 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 21:23:20 UTC

Well, so much for pointing out BCU as a backup project. It's effectively down, due to DNS trouble. Your browser can't find the server at www.bitcoinutopia.net
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Message 1607922 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 23:28:35 UTC - in response to Message 1607829.  

Well, so much for pointing out BCU as a backup project. It's effectively down, due to DNS trouble. Your browser can't find the server at www.bitcoinutopia.net

I have not had any issues today, but I use Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS server as my backup.
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Message 1607930 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 23:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 1607922.  

I have not had any issues today, but I use Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS server as my backup.

Yeah, that is with Google DNS. I have set Google DNS in my router and in all my Windows machines as the primary DNS. Done so since one day a couple of years ago my ISP's DNS server forgot all about every website in the USA for a week.

But exhibit a)
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.bitcoinutopia.net:
"It's not just you! http://www.bitcoinutopia.net looks down from here."

Exhibit b)
C:\Users\Ageless>tracert www.bitcoinutopia.net
Unable to resolve target system name www.bitcoinutopia.net
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Message 1607979 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 3:56:58 UTC

Yes guys the site is having trouble and has done so for about 10 hrs now . Just when we where doing so well . We are at 45% of total asked in about 8 days not bad for for only a few hundred people doing it .
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