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Message 1987658 - Posted: 28 Mar 2019, 22:28:37 UTC

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Message 1989418 - Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:15:48 UTC

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Message 1989423 - Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 4:36:29 UTC - in response to Message 1989418.  
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And all the time the Pentagon is looking at plans to defend its bases or move out of them because of global warming in the interests of National Security.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/house-climate-natsec-hearing/index.html

Also take a look at Trump's 1st wall, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/21/trump-wall-golf-course-doonbeg-ireland
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Message 1991630 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 0:41:00 UTC
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Unbelievable denial!

Or is this all very believable?

For just two examples:


YouTube: Climate Clash: Malcolm Roberts (Australian Senator) vs Brian Cox (World renowned Scientist)

Climate excerpt of the exchange between Malcolm Roberts (One Nation) and Physicist Brian Cox, Australian ABC Q&A programme...


YouTube: The disarming case to act right now on climate change - Greta Thunberg

... "wake up and change."



Note: This is all completely real, in our real world.

Completely compelling stuff.

How can we deny immediate positive action must be taken, immediately?


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Message 1991637 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 0:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 1991630.  

Unbelievable denial!

... And for continued denial:


Climate change: Is Greta Thunberg right about UK carbon emissions?

... The gases - mainly carbon dioxide - from burning fossil fuels contribute to global warming when released into the atmosphere. The UK's current target is to cut 80% of emissions from 1990 levels by 2050.

The government says greenhouse gas emissions have fallen by 42% since 1990.

But Greta Thunberg told MPs in Westminster that the true reduction was more like 10%.

Two very different figures - can both be right? It all depends...



Tracking the toxic air that's killing millions

... The World Health Organisation (WHO) says air pollution causes the death of seven million people a year and accounts for a third of fatalities from stroke, lung cancer and heart disease, with more than 90% of children breathing toxic air every day.

Until we tackle the root causes of air pollution - burning fossil fuels mainly - we can at least learn where and when it is likely to be at its most dangerous...



Deforestation: Tropical tree losses persist at high levels

Around 12 million hectares of forest in the world's tropical regions were lost in 2018, equivalent to 30 football fields per minute...

... Of particular concern is the continued destruction of what are termed primary forests. An area of these older, untouched trees the size of Belgium was lost in 2018...

... "All too often the loss of an area of forest is also associated with a funeral because every year hundreds of people are murdered when they try to stop the miners, loggers, ranchers and other commercial interests from appropriating their forest wealth - the moral imperative to act on these numbers is unquestionable and urgent." ...





Note: This is all completely real, in our real world.

Completely compelling stuff.

How can we deny immediate positive action must be taken, immediately?



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Message 1991640 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 1:03:59 UTC - in response to Message 1991637.  

The government says greenhouse gas emissions have fallen by 42% since 1990.
But Greta Thunberg told MPs in Westminster that the true reduction was more like 10%.
Two very different figures - can both be right? It all depends...[/i]
Neither the UK government nor Greta Thunberg are correct.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/greta-thunbergs-vag-fran-skolstrejkande-15-aring-till-ikon
The fact that Greta Thunberg previously worked with PR expert Ingmar Rentzhog has also created headlines.
The collaboration ended by the 16-year-old when Ingmar Rentzhog, who is considered a key player in the debate, acknowledged that his company used Greta Thunberg as a drawback for a new issue which attracted over ten million kronor to one of his company.
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Message 1991645 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 1:35:28 UTC - in response to Message 1991640.  
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The government says greenhouse gas emissions have fallen by 42% since 1990.
But Greta Thunberg told MPs in Westminster that the true reduction was more like 10%.
Two very different figures - can both be right? It all depends...[/i]
Neither the UK government nor Greta Thunberg are correct.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/greta-thunbergs-vag-fran-skolstrejkande-15-aring-till-ikon
The fact that Greta Thunberg previously worked with PR expert Ingmar Rentzhog has also created headlines.
The collaboration ended by the 16-year-old when Ingmar Rentzhog, who is considered a key player in the debate, acknowledged that his company used Greta Thunberg as a drawback for a new issue which attracted over ten million kronor to one of his company.

Reading through that article, I do not see your connection for your quote. Do you have other numbers?

Note that the numbers given are correct as best they can be correct. The political 'game' is all a game of what to count and what not to count and what to 'blame' on others...


Note for further comment from your article:

... Neither Thunberg's age nor commitment is a problem, on the contrary. It is about how adults handle this and try to make use of her to emphasize themselves and capitalize politically or economically at the expense of her...


Also:

Greta Thunberg herself rejects the criticism in an SMS to Expressen:

“There is no single organization or person behind me. There has never been anyone who told me what to do or what to say ".

As mentioned, the discussion is not new and Malena Ernman has previously defended her daughter against this kind of criticism:

"Greta has no one and has never had anyone" behind "her. She did all the planning herself completely. Last month she has received voluntary, ideal help to handle all international press requests. Otherwise she has definitely not at any time had any help or support from any PR agency, ”she has written on Facebook...

... However, one thing is certain - today the 16-year-old is an icon for a growing environmental movement in change...


(All by the power of Google Translate :-) )


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Message 1991646 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 1:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 1991645.  

I have some problem with the sudden media attention to her.
And I get some feeling she's being used.
I hope she's not though...
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Message 1991649 - Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 2:02:25 UTC

Malcolm Roberts is our version of a far right nutter, thankfully the party that he belongs to only has a 4% support figure, and then we also have Fraser Anning who's also out of a similar mold (but with even less support). :-(

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