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Message 1605976 - Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 5:47:37 UTC

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Message 1605979 - Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 5:55:21 UTC

I have 2 land lines at the house. One is a regular line. The other is a "Digital Subscriber Line". Then there are the mobiles.

Hey Chris. I live at a digital data center. 24/7/365 total access. LMAO AND LOL.

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Message 1606769 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 2:47:24 UTC

I've got a 3x cordless phone landline system here on mains power, but I also have an older line powered phone for blackouts.

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Message 1606791 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 3:26:58 UTC

I have Vonage for my home phone service; and I have an AT&T cordless phone system. (A base unit with answering machine, and four cordless handsets.) If power goes out; I have my Vonage voicemail ready to take calls. When power is restored, my AT&T system will tell me if there are any VM's to be retrieved. I haven't had a traditional corded phone for years; however, I do see the need and potential use for it on traditional land line service. However; with Vonage, even a traditional corded phone is useless in a power outage, because the Vonage device needs power and internet to run.
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Message 1607384 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 20:48:41 UTC

When I first learned that there was no dial tone on my line without actual phone service, i got a Magic Jack. Plugged it into a computer and signed up. Plugged all the phone wiring in the house into it. Worked fine. Computer and router on a UPS so I would still have phone in case of power outage. Also got a cordless system that not only plugs into a regular phone jack, it also connects to my cell via bluetooth. That way, when I get home I can plug the cell in and leave it, and use the cordless handsets. I also ran an extension cord from the cordless base to the UPS so it would still work. All fine and dandy, until the UPS batteries crapped out. One of these days, I should replace them or the whole unit. And then the city of Naperville said to have the Magic Jack registered with their 911 system, I have to pay a fee. Plus Magic Jack raised its rates, so I just dropped it. (It's still damn cheap; I just decided I don't need it.)
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Message 1607422 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 22:27:33 UTC - in response to Message 1607384.  

When I first learned that there was no dial tone on my line without actual phone service, i got a Magic Jack. Plugged it into a computer and signed up. Plugged all the phone wiring in the house into it. Worked fine. Computer and router on a UPS so I would still have phone in case of power outage. Also got a cordless system that not only plugs into a regular phone jack, it also connects to my cell via bluetooth. That way, when I get home I can plug the cell in and leave it, and use the cordless handsets. I also ran an extension cord from the cordless base to the UPS so it would still work. All fine and dandy, until the UPS batteries crapped out. One of these days, I should replace them or the whole unit. And then the city of Naperville said to have the Magic Jack registered with their 911 system, I have to pay a fee. Plus Magic Jack raised its rates, so I just dropped it. (It's still damn cheap; I just decided I don't need it.)

Where I live Verizon doesn't replace landlines with new copper, they want to abandon in place landlines, so service got worse and worse, eventually I moved to a cell phone w/Verizon, now I have a cell phone with Virgin Mobile, $20 for 400 minutes and no contract.
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Message 1607426 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 22:34:40 UTC

I got a cell phone because the land line people
were charging $45.oo a month Canadian!
($12.53 USD)


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Message 1607508 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 1:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 1607426.  

I got a cell phone because the land line people
were charging $45.oo a month Canadian!
($12.53 USD)


I am almost $80 a month for the landline but that includes internet and unlimited calling with caller id and forwarding. Because the line might be used to make business calls, I need a clean, Reliable line and from what I have seen of voice over IP, it could use improvement. One day Grainger lost their server and it took out their ordering system and all of their communications. I couldn't call them to place an order or even find out what was wrong. I drove down their to place an order in person and the best I could do was to leave the information and have them enter the order when everything came up. Yes, they made a mistake on the order. I wanted two and they gave me one. Good thing the second one was intended as a spare.
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Message 1608383 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 1:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 1607426.  

I got a cell phone because the land line people
were charging $45.oo a month Canadian!
($12.53 USD)


I think you are a bit off on your conversion Ian;)
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Message 1608394 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 1:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 1608383.  

I got a cell phone because the land line people
were charging $45.oo a month Canadian!
($12.53 USD)


I think you are a bit off on your conversion Ian;)

Current prices are:
45.00 CAD / 39.63 USD

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Message 1608396 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 1:57:37 UTC - in response to Message 1608383.  

I think you are a bit off on your conversion Ian;)



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Message 1608399 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 2:01:16 UTC

Maxwell Smart voice, "Missed by this much." :-D

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Message 1608426 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 3:10:26 UTC
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I read in the latest Scientific American, that (my guess) in about two years,
electronic devices will able to be charged without the use of a power cord.
The "wireless" portion will be ultrasound transmission, from a power-ultrasound
box, to a ultrasound-power box on the particular device.

As an aside -- I wonder how the inventors will figure out how to avoid
driving nearby dogs crazy.
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Message 1608473 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 4:46:42 UTC - in response to Message 1608426.  

I read in the latest Scientific American, that (my guess) in about two years,
electronic devices will able to be charged without the use of a power cord.
The "wireless" portion will be ultrasound transmission, from a power-ultrasound
box, to a ultrasound-power box on the particular device.

As an aside -- I wonder how the inventors will figure out how to avoid
driving nearby dogs crazy.


And I wonder how safe this is for anyone?
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Message 1608479 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 4:52:51 UTC

Why wait 2 years, when you can buy it now?

Of course it is terribly wasteful of energy, and generates all sorts of RF fields we don't really understand yet, but hey. That hasn't stopped us before.

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Message 1608484 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 5:04:41 UTC

They appear to all be magnetic coupling devices, for power transfer.
The ultrasonic ones are not, supposedly, plagued with the drop-off of
intensity, with distance, but -- there might be some other safety issues
to resolve. I'd have to read more. . .
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Message 1608510 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 6:28:17 UTC

Ultra-sound obeys the inverse square law as RF. Its just that they start with a much higher energy density so you don't notice it as much
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Message 1608523 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 6:47:31 UTC

How much better is than the current inductive charging?

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Message 1608755 - Posted: 3 Dec 2014, 18:32:48 UTC

Rob -- You might read, "Wireless Charging with Sound Waves", by Meredith Perry,
p. 52, the Scientific American, Dec. 2014 issue.
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