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Message 1605374 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 16:59:16 UTC - in response to Message 1605362.  
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there isn't a whole lot of AP tapes left to do (for as far as i know) so eventually we will run out of those too.

Josef W. Segur wrote:
- The Astropulse science database reached a limit so could not accept additional data. Rebuilding the database with revised limits is taking a long time, but not because of hardware. When that is completed, there are 1573 channels of data waiting to be split and the project has a large amount of other data which has not been split for Astropulse.
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Remember that Astropulse is split from the same tapes as Multibeam is. Same data, just a different method of splitting the chunks. A lot of the Seti v1 - v5 and some v6 data that was done prior to Astropulse coming into play, has never been split for Astropulse before.
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Message 1605377 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 17:05:26 UTC - in response to Message 1605374.  

well as of now i now have no more seti@home wu's but i am working on the seti beta wu's to help that way :)
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Message 1605511 - Posted: 26 Nov 2014, 4:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 1605135.  

If I read between the lines of Eric and Matt's posts correctly, [I'm guessing], there will be new data from Arecibo at some point in the not immediate future. When the shipping container is full of hard drives, which won't be days, but several weeks. The monkey wrench is when will the GBT data may be available. At present that requires programming support, read $$$ for a paycheck. After that it would go live on Seti Beta to make sure all the bugs are worked out. At that time our dedicated GPU guru's will work on optimized clients. Finally it would roll out at main.

So for planning, I wouldn't count on anything but re-sends until next year although they might still find a few bits and pieces of data tapes that were not sent out previously.

What I'm going to suggest is if any of you decide to shut down rigs that you send the money you save on the electric bill to Seti as a donation to help get the GBT code written. I have not checked with the powers that be what their needs are for this or if you can restrict a donation to GBT only. If that is your desire check with Eric before you send it.

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Message 1605865 - Posted: 26 Nov 2014, 22:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 1605374.  

Remember that Astropulse is split from the same tapes as Multibeam is. Same data, just a different method of splitting the chunks. A lot of the Seti v1 - v5 and some v6 data that was done prior to Astropulse coming into play, has never been split for Astropulse before.

Splitting that old data for V7 MB would probably be a good idea also. IIRC Einstein found 3 new pulsars in previously searched data.
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Message 1606103 - Posted: 27 Nov 2014, 11:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 1605362.  

What a lot of people also forget that if the AP science database runs again, there isn't a whole lot of AP tapes left to do (for as far as i know) so eventually we will run out of those too. We've reached the point that we surpassed the amount of computer power to realtime run the application therfore we will have times without work untill there is a bigger data volume, a other program with it's own calculations (as AP). On the other hand, look at other projects which you think has potential or your interest.

I've chosen theSkynet as another project. Although this program is only for getting the experience in distributed computing and likely to run out of work(thus I am going to look for a third project) for that matter I do keep it in the loop. Along with seti@home even if they don't have work available. with the right priority settings they will go and do stuff once able.

Just my thought on this all.

Now that computing power has surpassed the recording power, now we need more brain...how to process the data in more thourogh way? how to develope something more from it? how to use that power? ;)

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Message 1606330 - Posted: 28 Nov 2014, 0:55:46 UTC - in response to Message 1606103.  

What a lot of people also forget that if the AP science database runs again, there isn't a whole lot of AP tapes left to do (for as far as i know) so eventually we will run out of those too. We've reached the point that we surpassed the amount of computer power to realtime run the application therfore we will have times without work untill there is a bigger data volume, a other program with it's own calculations (as AP). On the other hand, look at other projects which you think has potential or your interest.

I've chosen theSkynet as another project. Although this program is only for getting the experience in distributed computing and likely to run out of work(thus I am going to look for a third project) for that matter I do keep it in the loop. Along with seti@home even if they don't have work available. with the right priority settings they will go and do stuff once able.

Just my thought on this all.

Now that computing power has surpassed the recording power, now we need more brain...how to process the data in more thourogh way? how to develope something more from it? how to use that power? ;)

As one great quote starts:
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us..."
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Yes, Rather than leave your computer idle, keep the house warm and run another BOINC project in the interim.

I decided to run Asteroids@home and MilkyWay@home.

It's summertime here, and fortunately I chose to have this replacement PC with liquid cooling, which is far quieter than fan cooling.

Cheers from New Zealand

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Message 1606651 - Posted: 28 Nov 2014, 20:50:05 UTC

I'm going to blame the NSA, China and Russian's for the problems
November 5th I had a total system crash, damaged Windows and lost Linux Mint 17 including all the work units I had downloaded.
Everything had been running fine for months
I had to fit hard drive with a Linux Ubuntu 12.04LTS to get system running again. No chance of repairing Mint installation, may be able to repair Windows but OS now says I only have a single core processor instead of 4 core, BIOS still sees 4 core so that doesn't look damaged
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Message 1606674 - Posted: 28 Nov 2014, 22:13:55 UTC - in response to Message 1606651.  

I'm going to blame the NSA, China and Russian's for the problems
November 5th I had a total system crash, damaged Windows and lost Linux Mint 17 including all the work units I had downloaded.
Everything had been running fine for months
I had to fit hard drive with a Linux Ubuntu 12.04LTS to get system running again. No chance of repairing Mint installation, may be able to repair Windows but OS now says I only have a single core processor instead of 4 core, BIOS still sees 4 core so that doesn't look damaged


Hi PJ,

According to your present computer listings, you were running Windows VISTA on one, and Linux on the other three PC.s.

What were you thinking of? Vista had/has still, so many inbuilt bugs.

So why not upgrade to Win7x64bit, Not Winx8 at all, or wait for Win10 (There is no Win9.

Win7x64bit should be good for another couple of years, and most bugs have been sorted out by now.

What Security Software are you using?

Cheers from a far-away land

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Message 1606746 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 1:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 1606674.  
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It's a real simple reason why I'm still running VISTA, I'm broke.
I was laid off in 2011, 16 days after Ulnar Nerve Relocation surgery in left arm, found out I had 2 herniated discs from a different work accident then later found out I also had a fractured vertebra requiring spinal fusion (6 bolts, various rods, etc) Been 'fighting' with insurance companies since end of 2011, no unemployment, no social security payments, only 10% disability. Florida is the worst state to have an accident in work (really, it is)
Using Norton AV, it was one of the best a few years ago instead of being one of the worst
I only have one other computer not 3, how do I remove them from list?
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Message 1606758 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 1:55:01 UTC - in response to Message 1606674.  

What were you thinking of? Vista had/has still, so many inbuilt bugs.

Rubbish.
I've got a Visa machine & a Win7 machine.
No problems with either.
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Message 1606765 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 2:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 1606758.  

What were you thinking of? Vista had/has still, so many inbuilt bugs.

Rubbish.
I've got a Visa machine & a Win7 machine.
No problems with either.

There's nothing wrong with Vista if you use it on hardware that can properly handle it, but it's a nightmare on older under powered and under resourced systems. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1606854 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 9:19:18 UTC - in response to Message 1606651.  

I'm going to blame the NSA, China and Russian's for the problems
November 5th I had a total system crash, damaged Windows and lost Linux Mint 17 including all the work units I had downloaded.
Everything had been running fine for months
I had to fit hard drive with a Linux Ubuntu 12.04LTS to get system running again. No chance of repairing Mint installation, may be able to repair Windows but OS now says I only have a single core processor instead of 4 core, BIOS still sees 4 core so that doesn't look damaged

Just a word of advice (ignore it if you already know...). On Linux, make the /home directory a separate partition. Then, if you have to change/upgrade the OS, your personal files remain intact (you have to do a manual disk allocation in the OS set-up of course). I used to also have a separate partition for /boot but when Ubuntu decided not to delete older versions of the kernel I got into awful trouble having to resize it manually (very manually) to get things working again. These days I usually have just three partitions -- /, /home, and swap. If it's a data-handling machine than a /data would also make sense. OTOH, there's the 11th commandment, Thou shalt make backups!
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Message 1606865 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 9:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 1606854.  
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Working on a Onyx system in 1981 we made backups on tape every day with incremental backups. Then somebody decided floppy disks were better and tapes were eliminated. Of course nobody makes backups on floppy disks (my latest on a AT&T UNIX PC consisted of 30 5"1/4 floppy disks). Now I have a Windows 8.1 PC with a 2 TB disk and I bought a 1 TB external disk just to backup my files. The main disk has a recovery partition of 16 GB, which I suspect to be a SSD partition on a Seagate hard disk.
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Message 1607115 - Posted: 30 Nov 2014, 2:29:48 UTC - in response to Message 1606854.  
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Just a word of advice (ignore it if you already know...). On Linux, make the /home directory a separate partition. Then, if you have to change/upgrade the OS, your personal files remain intact (you have to do a manual disk allocation in the OS set-up of course). I used to also have a separate partition for /boot but when Ubuntu decided not to delete older versions of the kernel I got into awful trouble having to resize it manually (very manually) to get things working again. These days I usually have just three partitions -- /, /home, and swap. If it's a data-handling machine than a /data would also make sense. OTOH, there's the 11th commandment, Thou shalt make backups![/quote]

Thanks, I usually do have offline backup's, unfortunately I just totally forgot, computer is in a room that doesn't get used every day. I turned it on a few months ago and just let it run SETI@Home. 500GB hard drive partitioned for Windows and Mint, 4gb for home/boot/swap/etc. I have no idea why there was a hard crash, but, it isn't the first time it's happened. Last year Ubuntu had a hard crash on laptop and desktop, less than 24 hrs apart? (strange coincidence?) Couldn't fix them and had to swap to original hard drives I had changed out, fitted drives to external enclosures, not recognised by Linux, Windows or 'recovery' software.
Maybe I'm just really paranoid?
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Message 1607607 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 9:22:21 UTC

Still running XP Pro here, both at home (7 year old Dell Vostro laptop) and at work (even older HP desktop). As long as you have enough memory and don't use IE8 as a browser (who wants to use IE anyway...), XP Pro still works well.

I would love to replace my laptop, but I want one with an HD screen and can't afford that right now. This one had 3gb ram, a 500gb HD, Wireless-N, and I bought it with the best graphics/audio setup you could get on it. Only had to re-install XP 3 times in 7 years, not too bad.
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Message 1607853 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 22:02:47 UTC

I'm also a 'foreign national' living in USA so automatically tracked by NSA and FBI.
The British Linux magazine I buy is classed as subversive because they published an issue with 'How To Beat NSA and GCHQ' (LOL) I'm not doing any of the things they suggest but I am somewhat paranoid for no good reason?
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Message 1607943 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 0:35:19 UTC

请问有某中文说明,英文实在难懂。现在没有程式运行。
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Message 1607948 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 1:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 1607943.  

请问有某中文说明,英文实在难懂。现在没有程式运行。


机器翻译:数据库崩溃和正在重建。没有更多的工作,直到修复完成。也许在一个星期。当你等待,你可以尝试其他项目,比如Einstein @ Home的。
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Message 1607950 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 1:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 1607943.  

请问有某中文说明,英文实在难懂。现在没有程式运行。


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