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BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
 ! When testing - all power cables have to be disconnected from the PSU except two: - "24 pin ATX" - you short pin 16 to left or right pin (both are ground) - "a molex to a fan" (or to multimeter) - to see if the PSU output is OK I think it is this pin on your cables but wait confirmation from a few other people:   - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
Highlander Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 167 Credit: 37,987,668 RAC: 16 |
hm, think, your green arrow goes to pin 21. - Performance is not a simple linear function of the number of CPUs you throw at the problem. - |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
On a 20 pin ATX MB connector Power On is pin 14 & on a 24 pin connector it is pin 16. There is a nice numbered diagram if you like here. The current suggestion is that the wire should be green, but none of that really matters. As it is always the 3rd & 4th pin from the left on the top row with the tab side up. As shown in all of the photos for any of the sites describing how to do a manual test. Connecting a fan to the PSU was a suggestion while doing the pin shorting test. As the PSU doesn't normally spin at low loads you probably wouldn't have any other way to tell if it is off or on unless you connect a volt meter. Previously you had mentioned you might get a multimeter, but were worried about electrocuting your self or your dog. So I figured a fan would be a safer test. :P If nothing happens then you have at least a dead PSU. Once you RMA it if it still doesn't power on them the MB might be gone as well. Troubleshooting can be a pain in the tookus. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
I have a PSU that sometimes has to be physically unplugged and plugged back in. I can only guess that I have to break the ground to make it "ready" to turn back on because turning off the power strip it is plugged into does not do the trick. It has to be unplugged and plugged back in. The "mysteries" in some ICs. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
hm, think, your green arrow goes to pin 21. Look again ;) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Highlander Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 167 Credit: 37,987,668 RAC: 16 |
hm, think, your green arrow goes to pin 21. yes, your right ... have overlooked this "(looking into plug from power supply)" argh - Performance is not a simple linear function of the number of CPUs you throw at the problem. - |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Well, it's amazing to me but the computer started up this morning. But now I have the problem of figuring out what probably went wrong and should I get a rma for the power supply or is this something that just happens? Well then exactly what probably did happen? I don't know and I don't know what to do. And is there a way that I proceed to put the power supply and hook up the new 270X or is it simply that I use common sense? To me it seems simple as to how I proceed but I am such a novice that the right things might not occur to me. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
So I have the whole thing working including the new 270x. Thanks everybody for your help. Is there something wrong with my PSU? I am running it on Einstein for now because Seti didn't recognize my new card but Einstein did. See ya later. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Ok, now I have seti running with the new gpu. Thanks merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
I am running it on Einstein for now because Seti didn't recognize my new card but Einstein did. See ya later. Setiathome, and Einstein don't do GPU detection, the Boinc client on your host does that, If Boinc detects your GPU and manages to contact the project then it'll show up on your list of hosts, and might even get work. What is the host id of this new computer of yours at Seti and at Einstein? Are you sure it's contacted Seti? Claggy |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Well, it's amazing to me but the computer started up this morning. But now I have the problem of figuring out what probably went wrong... It could be a number of things. The most notable case, for me, was the machine had the wrong Memory. Nothing was wrong with the Memory, the machine never beeped. It just wouldn't start on occasion. It would start after letting it sit unpowered for a while. I found that when Intel says blah blah Memory is Unsupported, pay attention. It works fine with the Intel Supported Memory. ;-) |
Mike Bader Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 231 Credit: 20,366,214 RAC: 33 |
My guess is your power supply was too light. You need more power :-) Mike Bader BOINC V7.16.5 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_join_form.php?id=5 - Join Our International Team [img]http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php? |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Well, it's amazing to me but the computer started up this morning. But now I have the problem of figuring out what probably went wrong... I have never had a message that the memory was unsupported. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
My guess is your power supply was too light. I have 850 watts, gold. Before I installed the 150watt gpu, the watts pulled at the plug was only 310 watts. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Well, it's amazing to me but the computer started up this morning. But now I have the problem of figuring out what probably went wrong... I never had a message either. The machine never complained. But it was posted at the Intel website, and a few other people had the same problem. Is this the same machine that keeps getting the AstroPulse Overflows? |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
I am running it on Einstein for now because Seti didn't recognize my new card but Einstein did. See ya later. It's Ok now Claggy, thanks. I don't know why Seti passed on the first try but Einstein took the 2nd gpu right off. Then when I switched back to Seti it took it. Probably just 10 -15 minutes later. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
Well, it's amazing to me but the computer started up this morning. But now I have the problem of figuring out what probably went wrong... TBar, Sorry for the late response. Yes this is the machine where I couldn't run more than one instance of AP at a time. What is this about a posting on an intel website concerning your machine or was that your brand of memory. I am using 16GB of corsair memory 2X8, 1600MHz. Have you switched out your memory? Actually I now prefer running just one instance on my gpu's. It keeps the temp down and the noise down. It will probably keep the machine running for years to come too. merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
...It will probably keep the machine running for years to come too. Well, if it's the problem I'm thinking of, it will happen again, and again...with more frequency. Let's see how it does. The fact that you're having problems here and at Einstein suggest something is amiss. BTW, did adding another card convince the PS fan to spin? |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
...It will probably keep the machine running for years to come too. The fan is not spinning. And if you know something is wrong with my computer why don't you just tell me what it is? Why this mystery? merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
...It will probably keep the machine running for years to come too. Because it is a Mystery? There are still too few clues to draw any conclusions. We need a few more clues. I'm not familiar with PS fans that only spin under heavy load. It would be nice to know that it actually does spin at some point. That might be something to concentrate on while waiting on more clues. |
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