Note: It takes less than two seconds to fire six rounds from a revolver, firing as fast as you can. Wait 2-12 seconds to make a decision?

An experienced shooter can do that. 12 year old children? Probably not. But whatever, this is why America has 1600 people dying in police violence a year while the rest of the civilized world has only a few dozen at the most.

Experienced shooter? Have you ever used guns?
It doesnt take long to be "Experienced". Only a few seconds even for kids.

Especially when they play 10 hours of video games a day.

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Note: It takes less than two seconds to fire six rounds from a revolver, firing as fast as you can. Wait 2-12 seconds to make a decision?

An experienced shooter can do that. 12 year old children? Probably not. But whatever, this is why America has 1600 people dying in police violence a year while the rest of the civilized world has only a few dozen at the most.

Experienced shooter? Have you ever used guns?
It doesnt take long to be "Experienced". Only a few seconds even for kids.

Note: It takes less than two seconds to fire six rounds from a revolver, firing as fast as you can. Wait 2-12 seconds to make a decision?

An experienced shooter can do that. 12 year old children? Probably not. But whatever, this is why America has 1600 people dying in police violence a year while the rest of the civilized world has only a few dozen at the most.

Cop says hands up, you reach for a gun, duh.

Oh come on. They shot him within 2 seconds. That is not nearly enough time to see if someone is reaching for a gun or trying to put his hands up. And even so, this kid was 12, I suspect he didn't take it as serious because you know, HE WAS 12!

Sometimes, except those who believe Hollywood Fantasy's, one has less than a second to decide if they have to save their life.

Yes... It's that fast.

Note: It takes less than two seconds to fire six rounds from a revolver, firing as fast as you can. Wait 2-12 seconds to make a decision?

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

The above post is incorrect and displays a complete ignorance of that State's Law.

Your 'cake' is made from the wrong recipe.

Oh? So are you saying that Ohio does not have open carry laws? Because they do. The only restrictions on that law are that you need to be at least 18 years old and that in order to keep a gun in your car, you need a concealed gun permit.

But this child was 12, so obviously the open carry law does not apply to him. Why yes, that is correct. But the officers didnt know that. They never asked for his age. They also never bothered to check if you know, that gun was real. Thats what you get when you shoot someone within 2 seconds after arriving to the scene.

But okay, say this child wasn't 12 and also didnt look like a child. Say that he was 24 and looked like 24. Would the police been right to shoot him? Nope, because openly carrying a gun is legal. Yet everyone here argues that the police have the duty to shoot everyone with a gun that isn't the police because who knows if the guy starts shooting innocent people. Its the police's duty to protect the people right? Well, that is why open carry laws are idiotic, because the police can no longer make the distinction between crazed gunmen and law abiding, second amendment loving civilians who exercise their legal right to walk around with a gun. So when you train the police to use preemptive force against potential threats, you are going to end up killing a lot of civilians and members of the NRA. Well I guess thats one day to get rid of Second Amendment supporters.

Part of your ORIGINAL Post.

Well no actual. See, Ohio has open carry laws, meaning that individuals, provided that they have gotten the gun legally, are very much within their legal rights to wave their guns around. What the police did here was kill a law abiding citizen.

You are incorrect that 'Open' means to 'wave' a gun around.

I accept you apology.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Cop says hands up, you reach for a gun, duh.

Oh come on. They shot him within 2 seconds. That is not nearly enough time to see if someone is reaching for a gun or trying to put his hands up. And even so, this kid was 12, I suspect he didn't take it as serious because you know, HE WAS 12!

Does it matter how old the kid was? If a kid are aiming at you with a lethal weapon you probably dont hesitate.
My first encounter with weapons is my fathers service pistol when I was about 7 ages.
Luckily he didn't load it and the ammo was locked away.

Cop says hands up, you reach for a gun, duh.

Oh come on. They shot him within 2 seconds. That is not nearly enough time to see if someone is reaching for a gun or trying to put his hands up. And even so, this kid was 12, I suspect he didn't take it as serious because you know, HE WAS 12!

Some 12 year olds are gun totting criminal enterprise drug dealing scum. Cops encounter them. Welcome to America.

So obviously it only makes sense that cops who encounter children start shooting immediately. Because some of them are dangerous criminals.

Americans live in a society that consistently only expects the worst from people.

Cop says hands up, you reach for a gun, duh.

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Some 12 year olds are gun totting criminal enterprise drug dealing scum. Cops encounter them. Welcome to America.

So obviously it only makes sense that cops who encounter children start shooting immediately. Because some of them are dangerous criminals.

Americans live in a society that consistently only expects the worst from people.

Dull what 12 year old is not an idiot, that's part of being 12.

What Mommy or Daddy lets a kid out of the house with a firearm to play in the park?

Some 12 year olds are gun totting criminal enterprise drug dealing scum. Cops encounter them. Welcome to America.
http://gangs.umd.edu/gangs/MS13.aspx

The gang is known to heavily recruit school aged members between 10 years of age and up. Gang members are known to hang around middle and high schools to lure prospective members with “skip parties” that offer sex, alcohol and drugs.

MS-13 members are known to be involved in all aspects of criminal activity. Because of their ties to their former homeland, MS-13 members have access to sophisticated weapons, thus making firearms trafficking one of their many criminal enterprises. ... The gang is heavily involved in burglaries, auto thefts, narcotic sales, home-invasion robberies, weapons smuggling, illegal firearm sales, car-jackings, extortion, murder, rape, prostitution, assault, and witness intimidation.

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Dull what 12 year old is not an idiot, that's part of being 12.

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The Only Idiot 'is' The Kid. The Kid Not Listening to The News, Parents or Peers?

Certainly ALL Peoples NOW Know, since August, to Stick Your Hands In The Air when Confronted by Cops. For A Second, Minute, or Many Many.

Idiots Can't Learn. The Kid was An Idiot.

Jesse and Al Should Be Ashamed.

Who 'is' Teaching The Idiots.

Other Idiots.

Yep, IDIOTIC.

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The above post is incorrect and displays a complete ignorance of that State's Law.

Your 'cake' is made from the wrong recipe.

Oh? So are you saying that Ohio does not have open carry laws? Because they do. The only restrictions on that law are that you need to be at least 18 years old and that in order to keep a gun in your car, you need a concealed gun permit.

But this child was 12, so obviously the open carry law does not apply to him. Why yes, that is correct. But the officers didnt know that. They never asked for his age. They also never bothered to check if you know, that gun was real. Thats what you get when you shoot someone within 2 seconds after arriving to the scene.

But okay, say this child wasn't 12 and also didnt look like a child. Say that he was 24 and looked like 24. Would the police been right to shoot him? Nope, because openly carrying a gun is legal. Yet everyone here argues that the police have the duty to shoot everyone with a gun that isn't the police because who knows if the guy starts shooting innocent people. Its the police's duty to protect the people right? Well, that is why open carry laws are idiotic, because the police can no longer make the distinction between crazed gunmen and law abiding, second amendment loving civilians who exercise their legal right to walk around with a gun. So when you train the police to use preemptive force against potential threats, you are going to end up killing a lot of civilians and members of the NRA. Well I guess thats one day to get rid of Second Amendment supporters.

Please tell me 12 year olds can't legally purchase guns.

I doubt they can purchase one themselves. But that doesn't mean that a child with a gun is doing anything illegal. I mean, you got guns getting marketed specifically to children in some states in the US.

Fact remains he was still holding a gun in public. What it shoots is a secondary concern.

Well no actual. See, Ohio has open carry laws, meaning that individuals, provided that they have gotten the gun legally, are very much within their legal rights to wave their guns around. What the police did here was kill a law abiding citizen.

See America, you can't have your cake and eat it too. This right here is the perfect example of why having open carry laws are idiotic.

The above post is incorrect and displays a complete ignorance of that State's Law.

Your 'cake' is made from the wrong recipe.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Fact remains he was still holding a gun in public. What it shoots is a secondary concern.

Well no actual. See, Ohio has open carry laws, meaning that individuals, provided that they have gotten the gun legally, are very much within their legal rights to wave their guns around. What the police did here was kill a law abiding citizen.

See America, you can't have your cake and eat it too. This right here is the perfect example of why having open carry laws are idiotic.

Please tell me 12 year olds can't legally purchase guns.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Another kid dead over gun stupidity. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/emergency-caller-said-boy-was-playing-with-a-pistol-that-was-probably-fake/story-fnh81jut-1227132570435

Update on this.

http://www.news.com.au/world/two-seconds-is-all-it-took-for-cleveland-police-to-determine-the-gun-12-year-old-tamir-had-was-real-they-were-wrong/story-fndir2ev-1227136546239

Fact remains he was still holding a gun in public. What it shoots is a secondary concern.

They said on the radio this morning that in Britain 5 people have been fatally shot by police in the last 4 years. In America over the same time period it's 1600.

Did you notice in each that the 911 caller stated that the gun looked like a replica and did you watch the video?

Over here, unless you're a film or picture company with the proper permits, replica firearms are basically illegal full stop.

We've had about 6 people killed by police over here this year, but they basically were "suicide by cop" and only 1 or 2 shots fired in each case, police here don't empty their clips.

Cheers.

Fact remains he was still holding a gun in public. What it shoots is a secondary concern.

Well no actual. See, Ohio has open carry laws, meaning that individuals, provided that they have gotten the gun legally, are very much within their legal rights to wave their guns around. What the police did here was kill a law abiding citizen.

See America, you can't have your cake and eat it too. This right here is the perfect example of why having open carry laws are idiotic.

Another kid dead over gun stupidity. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/emergency-caller-said-boy-was-playing-with-a-pistol-that-was-probably-fake/story-fnh81jut-1227132570435

Update on this.

http://www.news.com.au/world/two-seconds-is-all-it-took-for-cleveland-police-to-determine-the-gun-12-year-old-tamir-had-was-real-they-were-wrong/story-fndir2ev-1227136546239

Fact remains he was still holding a gun in public. What it shoots is a secondary concern.

They said on the radio this morning that in Britain 5 people have been fatally shot by police in the last 4 years. In America over the same time period it's 1600.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Another kid dead over gun stupidity. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/emergency-caller-said-boy-was-playing-with-a-pistol-that-was-probably-fake/story-fnh81jut-1227132570435

Update on this.

http://www.news.com.au/world/two-seconds-is-all-it-took-for-cleveland-police-to-determine-the-gun-12-year-old-tamir-had-was-real-they-were-wrong/story-fndir2ev-1227136546239