Art or Rock?

It can bring tears to people, so it has emotion, but it is just names on sliced rock.

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Most people who are into ice carving have a walk in freezer - something not commonly found around the house.

Not in Alaska, Siberia, Canada and Scandivia:)
Some winters we live in a freezer. Brrrrr
-30 C!

Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

Good question! :)

Because I cannot sculpt ice (I'd LOVE to give it a gom although the chainsaw element does perturb me a little... :)) I would say an ice-carving IS art. Of a transitory form of course :) If that looks like I've just contradicted myself - move along please people!! There's nothing to see here! :) A stone carving will also be art - albeit much less transitory - depending on whether it appeals to the viewer I suppose :)

As I told you before, your special talent is in the area of art, something I am not very good at. The fact that you work in cake frosting means there is little difference between you and somebody who works in ice. As for ice carving, you don't have to use a chain saw, other tools are used as well, It's just that a chain saw is faster and more impressive. The big problem is making and holding the block of ice. Most people who are into ice carving have a walk in freezer - something not commonly found around the house.

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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock.

And whats your Point?
A painting is made of canvas and some paint.
Rembrandt, da Vinci, Turner, van Gogh, Zorn...

Sorry moving a 340 ton rock from 1 place to another at a huge cost !.

WASTE FULL

A rock is still a rock no matter where you put it . It's only the arty farty types that see it as anything and they just go with what others say it's called being a sheep .

The painting of a rock is art .

The national monument of the president is art

Blue Polls is art but not the price that is just a rip off and rubbish art a 5yr old could do it with a big strong fan

It's like the cost of 2 match sticks outside the Sydney Art Gallery a waste of money and gets very old to look at after a while , 1 mach is harf burnt the other is not what the hell it is supposed to represent ??

How about how to rip big money out off silly ppl

That what i think of so called ART

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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock. Now where is my pet rock?

:))))) I befriended and tamed one from the wild - but it reverted to type soon after... *sigh*

Sorry moving a 340 ton rock from 1 place to another at a huge cost !.

WASTE FULL

A rock is still a rock no matter where you put it . It's only the arty farty types that see it as anything and they just go with what others say it's called being a sheep .

The painting of a rock is art .

The national monument of the president is art

Blue Polls is art but not the price that is just a rip off and rubbish art a 5yr old could do it with a big strong fan

It's like the cost of 2 match sticks outside the Sydney Art Gallery a waste of money and gets very old to look at after a while , 1 mach is harf burnt the other is not what the hell it is supposed to represent ??

How about how to rip big money out off silly ppl

That what i think of so called ART

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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock. Now where is my pet rock?

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Three chord Music in G Minor from 1971.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwEIt9ez7M
They even use flanger in the ending...

I would really prefer not to see a discussion of what people consider to be art consigned to the dark pit that is politics.
If people remember that art is a personal thing no one is wrong to love or loath any artwork, so no insults should be traded.
I am interested to see what people here like and dislike.
Surely we can discuss art without insults?
OK strike all that, great pity.

Yes great pity.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19790411&id=BsomAAAAIBAJ&sjid=zo4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6211,1822626

Indeed. Art is a very important in our lives.
A World without Art...
Big horror.

So lets start all over.
http://www.albannachmusic.com/music/bareknucklepipesanddrums.html
One chord Music:)

I would really prefer not to see a discussion of what people consider to be art consigned to the dark pit that is politics.

If people remember that art is a personal thing no one is wrong to love or loath any artwork, so no insults should be traded.

I am interested to see what people here like and dislike.

Surely we can discuss art without insults?

OK strike all that, great pity.

Yes great pity.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19790411&id=BsomAAAAIBAJ&sjid=zo4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6211,1822626

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@Janne - that art is irresistable... I must have it! *nyom* :)

Of course but what?
I have so many examples of great art and funny art.
I do have politcal art as well but here?
No I'm here for the fun.

Lets rock:)

This topic should be thouroughly discussed imo.

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rOZZ
Music
Pictures

Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

Good question! :)

Because I cannot sculpt ice (I'd LOVE to give it a gom although the chainsaw element does perturb me a little... :)) I would say an ice-carving IS art. Of a transitory form of course :) If that looks like I've just contradicted myself - move along please people!! There's nothing to see here! :) A stone carving will also be art - albeit much less transitory - depending on whether it appeals to the viewer I suppose :)

I would be more than happy to see this thread moved over to the politics forum. This has already been suggested to me as a sensible way forward, given the current ambience, and I agree.

Be careful what you wish for. Some of us have been holding back because it is not in the politics forum. ;)

:)))))))

@Janne - that art is irresistable... I must have it! *nyom* :)

edit: are we in politics now? I blinked and missed the move...
another edit: *astonished blink* We ARE!! Hello everyone :) again... :)

Great confusion!
Why is Lump of rock or artwork in the message board Politics now?
Yes. Art are often Politics but frankly quite booring.

I dont think anybody knows here what political art is.

I would really prefer not to see a discussion of what people consider to be art consigned to the dark pit that is politics.

If people remember that art is a personal thing no one is wrong to love or loath any artwork, so no insults should be traded.

I am interested to see what people here like and dislike.

Surely we can discuss art without insults?

OK strike all that, great pity.

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I would be more than happy to see this thread moved over to the politics forum. This has already been suggested to me as a sensible way forward, given the current ambience, and I agree.

Be careful what you wish for. Some of us have been holding back because it is not in the politics forum. ;)

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Reality Internet Personality

Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

From Jukkasjärvi Sweden.
A hotel that have to be rebuilt every year because its made of ice!
Art at the ICEHOTEL is created in sections and the artists to spend time here in intervals. In the last week before the hotel opens all 40 artists on-site at the same time.
http://www.icehotel.se/konst-design/retrospective/

Remember this is the Cafe folks:)

Oh. Okay Julie :) Cake anyone? :)
But are they art? :)
I say no - because I made them to be eaten. Those I made them for say yes... because they can't bring themselves to cut them :/ which of course makes eating them rather difficult and might technically make them right, although I still disagree :) Or maybe the photographs are art because no issues over eating THEM have ever arisen :)
Here is a detail from one cake that WAS OF art...
Heironymous Bosch's Heaven and Hell...
Please note the rocks... this makes this post DEFINITELY on topic :)

Artwork on the dinner table.

I say no - because I made them to be eaten. Those I made them for say yes... because they can't bring themselves to cut them :/ which of course makes eating them rather difficult and might technically make them right, although I still disagree :) Or maybe the photographs are art because no issues over eating THEM have ever arisen :)

Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

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I would be more than happy to see this thread moved over to the politics forum. This has already been suggested to me as a sensible way forward, given the current ambience, and I agree.

Remember this is the Cafe folks:)

Oh. Okay Julie :) Cake anyone? :)



But are they art? :)



I say no - because I made them to be eaten. Those I made them for say yes... because they can't bring themselves to cut them :/ which of course makes eating them rather difficult and might technically make them right, although I still disagree :) Or maybe the photographs are art because no issues over eating THEM have ever arisen :)

Here is a detail from one cake that WAS OF art...

Heironymous Bosch's Heaven and Hell...

Please note the rocks... this makes this post DEFINITELY on topic :)