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Sirius B ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15
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That all depends on what an individual considers art. What I consider art is an image that makes one stop & think. What I may see in that image may not be the same as what you see. That image of the earth I consider art for the simple reason is that it is a beautiful tranquil image of the planet we live on, yet at the same time it has a dark & dangerous secret - that secret is us which is not revealed until one lands. After all, isn't that what art is meant to do? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? I think you are a bit narrowminded. And reason too logical. |
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Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? No, seeing the earth from the moon would make it even less a piece of art. The earth is not created by human creativity which is a necessity for something to be even judged as potentially a piece of art. Look, just because something looks amazing or beautiful does not mean it has to therefor be art. Something can be beautiful and amazing without it being considered art. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? If I understand you right you have to see it live to consider it art. I agree. Thats the best thing. But how many of us can afford a trip to moon to see our Earth from there |
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Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? No its beautiful, but it lacks content. That picture never trascends to anything more than just a nice picture of our planet. Hence its not art. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Thanks Janne, that's the best piece of modern poetry I've ever read. Something to ponder on isn't it? Apollo 8. 46 years ago. Time flies. Statue of Apollo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo#mediaviewer/File:Belvedere_Apollo_Pio-Clementino_Inv1015.jpg |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0
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Thanks Janne, that's the best piece of modern poetry I've ever read. Something to ponder on isn't it? Yes it is, Sirus. Thanks Janne, for taking me back to my youth. 40+ years ago, they used to read that poem on the local TV stations right before playing the National Anthem on their nightly sign-off. It was quite... moving. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Thanks Janne, that's the best piece of modern poetry I've ever read. Something to ponder on isn't it? Come to think of the Sun and the stars. There just compressed gas of hydrogen and helium. Everything except hydrogen comes from exploding stars. I think math is both beauty and art. So do Max Tegmark professor in astro physics at MIT. EDIT: Flashbacks from my childhood. Now I remember seeing this on TV (B/W of course). I was not impressed at all:) Whats the big deal I thought. |
Sirius B ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15
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Thanks Janne, that's the best piece of modern poetry I've ever read. Something to ponder on isn't it? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? Can I say more:) The moon is more rock then Earth! I like to watch a fullmoon. Lets rock. |
Sirius B ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? So you don't see it as a thing of beauty? |
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Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? Its a picture of a lump of rock in space, but it is not art. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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That is a BIG rock:) And we have only this blue marble. |
Sirius B ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15
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That is a BIG rock:) But one must admit, the most beautiful one ever seen anywhere. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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That is a BIG rock:) Hmm Syria and Iraq on the top... |
Sirius B ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15
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So is this a lump of rock in space, a picture or art? |
Wiggo "Democratic Socialist" Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 18394 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 1,109
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It will always be a matter of personal opinion as to what constitutes art and what doesn't and that's a fact of life that everyone just has to live with, no amount of argument will answer the question one way or the other ever as everyone is different and sees things differently and from different perspectives. ;-) Cheers. |
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Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0
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Of course its not up for the government to decide whats art and whats not. I never said thats something the government should do. As for what is art, I view that art is form and content. Form describes the design, shape, colors, the materials used, etc. Content is the message, the story, the way its telling the story and also the way people see the story. I would argue that a lot of things people argue is art because they think it looks pretty lacks content and therefor is not art. Just something that looks beautiful. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0
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One of my kids grabs a crayon and scribbles all over a wall. I agree. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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One of my kids grabs a crayon and scribbles all over a wall. :) Simple as that. I also scribbled as a Child together with my sister on the wallpapers:) A kid probably doesnt enjoy Rembrandt. Just a painting among others for theme. Government rating art. Big horror. Stalin comes to mind... |
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