I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Big blue cock erected on fourth plinth in London's Trafalgar Square

With such a large one on display, I would not be surprised if the comments from the ladies were quite blue :)

No. Red and happy:)

I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Big blue cock erected on fourth plinth in London's Trafalgar Square

With such a large one on display, I would not be surprised if the comments from the ladies were quite blue :)

I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Big blue cock erected on fourth plinth in London's Trafalgar Square

LOL
I know the feeling:)

Alan Turing for starters...

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Maybe a statue of someone a bit less controversial?

A fair enough comment, which I am happy to accept. Who would you suggest then? Anything has to be better that a blue rooster!

Alan Turing for starters...

A fair enough comment, which I am happy to accept. Who would you suggest then? Anything has to be better that a blue rooster!

Call me biased, but i'd like to see a scientific great up there. Someone who perhaps hasn't received the recognition they deserve. Someone who has been largely forgotten by the public in favour of someone else, but without whom that someone else would never have completed their most famous work.

Someone like Rosalind Franklin.

(If your first response was "who?", that proves my point. Google her.)

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Maybe a statue of someone a bit less controversial?

A fair enough comment, which I am happy to accept. Who would you suggest then? Anything has to be better that a blue rooster!

It has been suggested that the plinth have a permanent statue of Nelson Mandela on it, which I would be quite happy to support.

I wouldn't

I'd far rather see a massive cock erected on the plinth (did i really just type that?) than a statue of, to put it bluntly, a former terrorist.

Oh i know since his arrest, imprisonment and release he's been deified by all PC types, and i'm not denying he did much good work afterward. However, he's still the one who triggered the ANC into armed conflict thus responsible for countless deaths.

Maybe a statue of someone a bit less controversial?

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I would venture to suggest that a play or a musical performed on a stage or in a theatre is an artform. An orchestra in an auditorium is an artform. A painting on a wall is art, so is a sculpture. Computer generated images aren't really one thing or another, certainly they are technically clever. Even if you framed a print of that Bigboy and hung it on the wall, it would be a very good example of its genre, but not really art.

What about pavement art? I'm always amazed what some people can produce with coloured chalks on a stone slab. Some of the 3d chasms that have been drawn are so realistic, that people actually walk round them in the street! I'm not sure they are art or an artform in the classical sense, but they are certainly artistic and pleasing to the eye in my opinion.

A lump of rock if it has been shaped and worked on by a human could be considered a work of art by some, but if it is just there in its natural state, then it is simply a lump of rock. But if people want to see it as art or an artform then they are free to do so. That blue cockerel rooster thing was clearly put there to shock, to cause comment, and to be a conversation piece, to that end it has succeeded in what the artist intended for it. That woman has probably secured her place in history as the person who did it and got away with it. Whether that is something to be proud of is another matter. The majority of people don't like it, and also think it shouldn't be there.

As we've said beauty is in the eye of the beholder or indeed also in the ear of the listener. I have no time for the heavy Italian operas at La Scala, but I quite enjoy the Gilbert & Sullivan stuff which are always such jolly romps. One of my pet hates are musicals, you get a good story going then they all stop for a sing song and spoil it. They were designed simply as an excuse to showcase the stars. I enjoyed Pygmalion, I hated My Fair Lady.

in my opinion it is a travesty that the 4th plinth should be used in this way and it desecrates our capital city, but it was the Royal Society of Arts that first suggested it, and nobody was prepared to argue against them because of who they were. And we are in for more of the same, although Gift Horse has a modicum of credibility compared to a blue monstrosity.

Hans Haacke: Gift Horse (planned for 2015) – a bronze statue of a riderless skeletal horse; wrapped around its leg is an electronic stock ticker display. Haacke says the sculpture is a tribute to economist Adam Smith and horse painter George Stubbs, whose books Wealth of Nations and The anatomy of the Horse were both published in 1766. He based the design on a sketch by Stubbs, who had designed the equestrian statue of William IV intended for the plinth.

David Shrigley: Really Good (planned for 2016) – a bronze sculpture of a human hand in a thumbs-up gesture, with the thumb greatly elongated. The top of the thumb will reach 10 metres (33 ft) high.

It has been suggested that the plinth have a permanent statue of Nelson Mandela on it, which I would be quite happy to support. So much better than all this current rubbish. Why modern day artists feel their work has to make a statement or represent something escapes me entirely. Could it be that their work doesn't stand up as artistic enough on it's own merit? Could it be they say, ah yes it is just a lump of metal/rock/fibreglass, but it shows "mans folly in the Universe" or some such esoteric twaddle, and the arty farty brigade all nod in sage agreement, while the rest of us shake our heads in despair.

Bah humbug!

Es99 ...


good one

+1

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I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Nah, the blue bird is good the rock is better.

Safer to google at the very least.

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I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Nah, the blue bird is good the rock is better.

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I'm starting to like the big blue cock more and more.

Big blue cock erected on fourth plinth in London's Trafalgar Square

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It was also a spectacle when Union Pacific moved the Big Boy out of L.A. Nobody called that art.

Funny you should say that.

Can a picture/photo/painting of the above object be art?

Look at this.



At first glance it appears to be a picture of Big Boy 4012, however it is a digitally created model rendered in 3D. It took time and skill with several computer programs, but is it art?

Ansel Adams created art with photographs.

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(I think that's the same company that moved the huge electromagnet to Fermilab last year. I was out in the middle of the night watching that.)

Now, that was a spectacle, not art :-)

Yes, and if I'd been in L.A. to see the rock move, that would have been a spectacle too. Still not art. In my opinion.

It was also a spectacle when Union Pacific moved the Big Boy out of L.A. Nobody called that art.

Yes moving it was spectacle. But Big Boy is the ART.

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It was also a spectacle when Union Pacific moved the Big Boy out of L.A. Nobody called that art.

Funny you should say that.
Can a picture/photo/painting of the above object be art?
Look at this.
At first glance it appears to be a picture of Big Boy 4012, however it is a digitally created model rendered in 3D. It took time and skill with several computer programs, but is it art?

Of course its art.
The technique has nothing to do with art.
But you need technique and skills to do good art.
And it take times to get skilled.

It was also a spectacle when Union Pacific moved the Big Boy out of L.A. Nobody called that art.

Funny you should say that.

Can a picture/photo/painting of the above object be art?

Look at this.



At first glance it appears to be a picture of Big Boy 4012, however it is a digitally created model rendered in 3D. It took time and skill with several computer programs, but is it art?

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Yes, and if I'd been in L.A. to see the rock move, that would have been a spectacle too. Still not art. In my opinion.

Theaters and Movies are also spectacles.
Not art?

Art is highly subjective. That's why I said "In my opinion." Some movies are art, some are not. Some try to be and fail.

Of course its subjective:)
Thats one of the points with art.
Do you ever Heard of something like objective art?
Or perhaps even worse. Political correct art.
That makes me very nervous.

Yes, and if I'd been in L.A. to see the rock move, that would have been a spectacle too. Still not art. In my opinion.

Theaters and Movies are also spectacles.
Not art?

Art is highly subjective. That's why I said "In my opinion." Some movies are art, some are not. Some try to be and fail.

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Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Yes, and if I'd been in L.A. to see the rock move, that would have been a spectacle too. Still not art. In my opinion.

Theaters and Movies are also spectacles.
Music performances are also spectacles.
Not art?