But no one in charge of the secret service so President mite not be there for much longer as it seems very easy to get into the White House these days and you can have a gun too

With organisation like that we don't have to worry about IS or Iraq the Americans are there !!!!

Oh skit better start building that bunker now before we run outa time .

+1

But no one in charge of the secret service so President mite not be there for much longer as it seems very easy to get into the White House these days and you can have a gun too

With organisation like that we don't have to worry about IS or Iraq the Americans are there !!!!

Oh skit better start building that bunker now before we run outa time .

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Understand the other Country's, in addition to Turkey. But they are not our Friends/Allies.

Sorry Clyde:)
Turkey is a member of NATO!
I was in Greece 1974 when they annexed part of Cyprus.
First to go from Greece was US Citizens!

Lets just drop this line of discussion before too much more invective is used. Ok?

Of course:)
Both Europe and US have so much misconseption about Middle East.
And so do I:)
I read somewhere that is about 40 to 50 Islamitics movements!
Well Islamitic i dunno. Sounds like terrorists to me.
The Kurds Thinks so anyway. 1.5 millions of them are fleeing the IS right now!

Cheers.

Not to worry.

We have a Competent American President, Vice-President, Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, et al, working to solve this problem.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Lets just drop this line of discussion before too much more invective is used. Ok?

Of course:)
Both Europe and US have so much misconseption about Middle East.
And so do I:)
I read somewhere that is about 40 to 50 Islamitics movements!
Well Islamitic i dunno. Sounds like terrorists to me.
The Kurds Thinks so anyway. 1.5 millions of them are fleeing the IS right now!

Cheers.

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Do have Friends, and good acquaintances, who have 'Been There', and worked with The 'Kurds'.

All the US has to do, according to them: Is Arm The Kurds, and have them 'take care' of The I.S. within Iraq.

The real problem is a future Nation of Kurdistan. This Kurd Nation would include part of Western Turkey. Of course, Turkey does not like this.

Therefore... We have two very good, tolerant, and competent Allies, with different vision's of their future.

Unsolvable problem?

There is no Kurdistan any more...
Turks hate them, Iraq hate them, Syria hate them and Iran hates them.
In Turkey they are not allowed to speak Kurdish!
Yes a BIG problem.

Clyde
The Kurds are in the east part of Turkey.
East part of Syria.
North part of Iraq.
West part of Iran.

Sorry for the Geography mess-up.

Understand the other Country's, in addition to Turkey. But they are not our Friends/Allies.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I didn't criticized Holder!
Do not read between the lines. I was critizising his 'opinion'.
He seems to know nothing of Islamitics Movements.
They are plenty!
A big problem don't you Think?
And!
US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Mind you. I live not far from the region.
Learn about Kurdistan and it's history and you maybe will think different.
The next largests immigrant group here is from Kurdistan!
Why do you (USA) Think?

I am not Kurdish. I do not know everything about their plight.

But, based on what I do know, they have been screwed over rather badly.

After the fall of Sodamn Insane's regime in Iraq, I was for a 3-way partition of Iraq... into a Shia nation in the SE, a Kurdish nation in the NE, and the remainder of Iraq into a Sunni nation. But... that didn't happen.

The root of the problem is that, upon the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the close of WWI, the UK Government (which got the LoN mandate to administer the region) decided to somewhat arbitrarily draw some lines on a map without regard to those region's ethnic composition.

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Nonsense.
You know nothing about the Middle East Conflict.
Me neither but I try to learn about it.
It takes time.

I know a bit more than 'nothing' about it.

And Kurdish? They call themself Kurds! Nothing else.

Please forgive the error.

The English language does not have strict morphological rules for determining the appropriate suffix to apply to a Nationality or Ethnicity for use as an adjective. '-ish' is one of the more common suffixes used for the purpose in the English language, other examples include 'Scottish', 'Irish', and 'Spanish'. Other suffixes in use in English for the purpose include (but are not limited to) -an, -ese, -ian, and -er.

I have seen and heard the '-ish' suffix used as applies to the Kurds. My error. Sorry.

And west meddling in the area will make it worse. Much worse.
To them its an insult!
It's like call you americanish!

Now, that WOULD be wrong. 'American' refers, most properly, to a Resident of 'America'. That is, a Resident of either North America, Central America, or South America (and their associated islands). Using the term 'American' to refer to only a citizen of the USA is offensive to a number of people I know from Nations (other than the USA) in the Americas. There really isn't a term in the English language for a US Citizen, but there is in other languages I know. To make matters easier for you, you may refer to me as a 'Texan', since I am from (and currently reside in) Texas.

Lets just drop this line of discussion before too much more invective is used. Ok?

US are using Extraordinary rendition in Sweden!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition#Sweden
In 2008 the Swedish government awarded al-Zery $500,000 in damages for the abuse he received in Sweden and the subsequent torture in Egypt!

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Do have Friends, and good acquaintances, who have 'Been There', and worked with The 'Kurds'.

All the US has to do, according to them: Is Arm The Kurds, and have them 'take care' of The I.S. within Iraq.

The real problem is a future Nation of Kurdistan. This Kurd Nation would include part of Western Turkey. Of course, Turkey does not like this.

Therefore... We have two very good, tolerant, and competent Allies, with different vision's of their future.

Unsolvable problem?

There is no Kurdistan any more...
Turks hate them, Iraq hate them, Syria hate them and Iran hates them.
In Turkey they are not allowed to speak Kurdish!
Yes a BIG problem.

Clyde
The Kurds are in the east part of Turkey.
East part of Syria.
North part of Iraq.
West part of Iran.

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Do have Friends, and good acquaintances, who have 'Been There', and worked with The 'Kurds'.

All the US has to do, according to them: Is Arm The Kurds, and have them 'take care' of The I.S. within Iraq.

The real problem is a future Nation of Kurdistan. This Kurd Nation would include part of Western Turkey. Of course, Turkey does not like this.

Therefore... We have two very good, tolerant, and competent Allies, with different vision's of their future.

Unsolvable problem?

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Slow & Steady? Really? So we can expect more hostages, more beheadings, more women & children raped & killed all while the coalition will be looking for "targets of opportunity". What lovely human rights!

Well, Scotland is free to raise an army and send them over there to do what they think should be done. Oh, that's right, Scotland didn't vote to be independent.

The issue is that Islam, the real Islam, is peace loving and they won't fight for themselves. As long as they won't there is nothing anyone else can do without being seen as part of the problem by the peace loving Islam. It is a catch 22.

Not quite a catch-22 as there is a simple answer. The West interfering? Okay, we'll pull out & the one condition of that is that Islam, leaves the West for Islamic states.

How long before those peace lovers beg the West to rescue them from genocide?

The problem with Islam is that they want their bread buttered on both sides!

Biji Kurdistan.
Go Sweden.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fozznujen&edit-text=
Özz Nûjen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96zz_N%C3%BBjen

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I didn't criticized Holder!
Do not read between the lines. I was critizising his 'opinion'.
He seems to know nothing of Islamitics Movements.
They are plenty!
A big problem don't you Think?
And!
US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Mind you. I live not far from the region.
Learn about Kurdistan and it's history and you maybe will think different.
The next largests immigrant group here is from Kurdistan!
Why do you (USA) Think?

I am not Kurdish. I do not know everything about their plight.

But, based on what I do know, they have been screwed over rather badly.

After the fall of Sodamn Insane's regime in Iraq, I was for a 3-way partition of Iraq... into a Shia nation in the SE, a Kurdish nation in the NE, and the remainder of Iraq into a Sunni nation. But... that didn't happen.

The root of the problem is that, upon the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the close of WWI, the UK Government (which got the LoN mandate to administer the region) decided to somewhat arbitrarily draw some lines on a map without regard to those region's ethnic composition.

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Nonsense.
You know nothing about the Middle East Conflict.
Me neither but I try to learn about it.
It takes time.
And Kurdish? They call themself Kurds! Nothing else.

And west meddling in the area will make it worse. Much worse.
To them its an insult!
It's like call you americanish!

US are using Extraordinary rendition in Sweden!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition#Sweden
In 2008 the Swedish government awarded al-Zery $500,000 in damages for the abuse he received in Sweden and the subsequent torture in Egypt!

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I didn't criticized Holder!
Do not read between the lines. I was critizising his 'opinion'.
He seems to know nothing of Islamitics Movements.
They are plenty!
A big problem don't you Think?
And!
US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Mind you. I live not far from the region.
Learn about Kurdistan and it's history and you maybe will think different.
The next largests immigrant group here is from Kurdistan!
Why do you (USA) Think?

I am not Kurdish. I do not know everything about their plight.

But, based on what I do know, they have been screwed over rather badly.

After the fall of Sodamn Insane's regime in Iraq, I was for a 3-way partition of Iraq... into a Shia nation in the SE, a Kurdish nation in the NE, and the remainder of Iraq into a Sunni nation. But... that didn't happen.

The root of the problem is that, upon the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the close of WWI, the UK Government (which got the LoN mandate to administer the region) decided to somewhat arbitrarily draw some lines on a map without regard to those region's ethnic and religious composition.

And outside (including the USA) meddling in that area since then has NOT helped.

Sigh...
Read the news!

Extradition from Sweden are done by FBI.
Thank you very much.
A humiliating process with diapers and shackles!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I didn't criticized Holder!
Do not read between the lines. I was critizising his 'opinion'.
He seems to know nothing of Islamitics Movements.
They are plenty!
A big problem don't you Think?
And!
US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Please don't confuse his PUBLIC statements with his actual opinions.

Sometimes, Governement officials have to say stuff they KNOW to be false for any of several reasons... Most likely, in this case, to avoid compromising ongoing investigations.

And while, strictly speaking, one Nation's laws don't apply in other nations, sometimes actions of people in one Nation violate the laws of another Nation.

Ever hear of Extradition?

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I didn't criticized Holder!
Do not read between the lines. I was critizising his 'opinion'.
He seems to know nothing of Islamitics Movements.
They are plenty!
A big problem don't you Think?
And!
US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Mind you. I live not far from the region.
Learn about Kurdistan and it's history and you maybe will think different.
The next largests immigrant group here is from Kurdistan!
Why do you (USA) Think?

I am quite sure that he will appreciate hearing from a 60 year old Scandinavian.

Of course not!

What is being discussed is not a “new terrorist group,” but rather a specialized cell that has gradually been established within, or on, the fringes of an already existing al-Qaeda franchise, the so-called Nusra Front. What this seems to be about is a jihadi cell consisting of veteran al-Qaeda members who have arrived to the Nusra Front in Syria from abroad, mainly via Iran, and who are in direct contact with al-Qaeda’s international leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, himself believed to be based in Pakistan.

US Attorney General Eric Holder, with no foreign affairs knowledge, have very bad advisers!
He should talk about al-Nusra Front instead.
The al-Nusra Front or Jabhat al-Nusra "The Support Front for the People of Sham"), sometimes called Tanzim Qa'edat Al-Jihad fi Bilad Al-Sham or Al-Qaeda in Syria, is a branch of al-Qaeda operating in Syria and Lebanon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front
And why are US Attorney talking about Kurdistan: Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran?
Make no sense to me. US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

Well...

As much as I do not like Holder or his politics...

The U.S. Attorney General is *head* of the US Department of Justice (DoJ).
The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is part of the DOJ.
Part of the FBI's mission is investigating terrorist activity.

So, yes, international terrorism *is* part of his Official 'portfolio'.

The US Attorney General shares responsibility for investigation of international terrorism with several *other* officials in the 'Cabinet' of the US President.

I can't STAND Holder for a variety of reasons, but this criticism of him is totally unwarranted.

I am quite sure that he will appreciate hearing from a 60 year old Scandinavian.

Of course not! And I'm not 60. I am 59!!! And Eric Holder is 63!

What is being discussed is not a “new terrorist group,” but rather a specialized cell that has gradually been established within, or on, the fringes of an already existing al-Qaeda franchise, the so-called Nusra Front. What this seems to be about is a jihadi cell consisting of veteran al-Qaeda members who have arrived to the Nusra Front in Syria from abroad, mainly via Iran, and who are in direct contact with al-Qaeda’s international leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, himself believed to be based in Pakistan.

US Attorney General Eric Holder, with no foreign affairs knowledge, have very bad advisers!
He should talk about al-Nusra Front instead.
The al-Nusra Front or Jabhat al-Nusra "The Support Front for the People of Sham"), sometimes called Tanzim Qa'edat Al-Jihad fi Bilad Al-Sham or Al-Qaeda in Syria, is a branch of al-Qaeda operating in Syria and Lebanon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front
And why are US Attorney talking about Kurdistan: Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran?
Make no sense to me. US laws doesn't apply in the Middle East.

I have been to Pittsburgh and seen one of the Carnegie museums, but sadly time constraints prevented me from visiting inside.

The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace is a foreign-policy think tank, its work is not formally associated with any political party. In the University of Pennsylvania's 2013 Global Go To Think Tanks Report, Carnegie is ranked the third most influential think tank in the world, after the Brookings Institution and Chatham House.

I would suggest however, that their view is just one of many in the world, that needs to be taken into consideration to appreciate the wider picture, rather than just one side of it.

Eric Himpton Holder, Jr. is the 82nd Attorney General of the United States, in office since 2009. What merits has he in foreign affairs?

According to your personal opinion, not much. I assume that you will be writing to him to express your views?

Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

I am quite sure that he will appreciate hearing from a 60 year old Scandinavian.

We are all ignorant of this. But there many how knows a lot about Islamist Movements. So why dont read this also?
Does the “Southern Front” Exist?
http://carnegieendowment.org/syriaincrisis/?fa=55054
Yes “Southern Front” exists. In Eastern Ukraine paid by Putin!
https://twitter.com/southfronteng