Should the west now send in the troops : ISIS & IRAN

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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15	Message 1584225 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 1584219. Are the shrubs that intend to replace them any good or just more of the same? A shrub is a small bush, I find that to be scary. LOL, I got to stop using "Jack O'Neill's" sayings... ...think I'll disappear & watch the Simpson's :-) ID: 1584225 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10273 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149	Message 1584219 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:39:48 UTC - in response to Message 1584209. Are the shrubs that intend to replace them any good or just more of the same? A shrub is a small bush, I find that to be scary. ID: 1584219 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15	Message 1584209 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:28:13 UTC - in response to Message 1584205. In other words, screwed if you do/screwed if you don't. Are the shrubs that intend to replace them any good or just more of the same? Regardless of what nation, the West really does need a strong leader soon... ID: 1584209 ·

KWSN - MajorKong Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0	Message 1584205 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 1584181. That is easier said than done. Besides, impeachment in and of itself doesn't do squat. There would have to be a trial in the Senate, and since the Democrat party has a majority in that body, the outcome of that trial would be a forgone conclusion. The same thing happened when Clinton got impeached. But, even if the Senate DID convict him and remove him from office, the would make VP Biden president, and Biden is an even bigger putz than Obama. No, we are stuck with Obama for a bit over two more years. ID: 1584205 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15	Message 1584181 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 20:57:43 UTC - in response to Message 1584174. The British Prime minister doesn't act in isolation, he has his advisors, the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consult. Even then military action has to be authorised by Parliament. Even if carried out on Humanitarian grounds he still has to report to parliament ASAP saying how, what, where, and why. I imagine it must be similar in some ways to the Obama administration. It seems to me in these threads that Obama is disliked as much for himself as for his polices that people disagree with. The Real problem here, may be that Obama IS Acting in Isolation. Isn't that the actions of a dictator? Yep. It is, and that is somewhat the point. So have him impeached. ID: 1584181 ·

KWSN - MajorKong Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0	Message 1584174 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 20:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 1584038. The British Prime minister doesn't act in isolation, he has his advisors, the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consult. Even then military action has to be authorised by Parliament. Even if carried out on Humanitarian grounds he still has to report to parliament ASAP saying how, what, where, and why. I imagine it must be similar in some ways to the Obama administration. It seems to me in these threads that Obama is disliked as much for himself as for his polices that people disagree with. The Real problem here, may be that Obama IS Acting in Isolation. Isn't that the actions of a dictator? Yep. It is, and that is somewhat the point. ID: 1584174 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 33903 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 41	Message 1584090 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 18:47:52 UTC - in response to Message 1584089. Last modified: 9 Oct 2014, 18:49:49 UTC Thanx for the links Gary, I remembered something about the corruption scandals in Chicago politics. Are you trying to say Obama is corrupt? As I said before I really don't follow abroad politics that much but I would be surprised if that were the case. Not saying he is corrupt, but he won his first election in that environment, so he had to have some backbone then. Now it seems as if whatever he had, has turned to goo. I would be very surprised if there were no corrupt persons in his first campaign. He works on the sentiment of people, that's dangerous if that's accompanied by bad intentions... rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1584090 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 26997 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 73	Message 1584089 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 18:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 1583987. Thanx for the links Gary, I remembered something about the corruption scandals in Chicago politics. Are you trying to say Obama is corrupt? As I said before I really don't follow abroad politics that much but I would be surprised if that were the case. Not saying he is corrupt, but he won his first election in that environment, so he had to have some backbone then. Now it seems as if whatever he had, has turned to goo. I would be very surprised if there were no corrupt persons in his first campaign. ID: 1584089 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 21803 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 15	Message 1584038 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1584028. The British Prime minister doesn't act in isolation, he has his advisors, the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consult. Even then military action has to be authorised by Parliament. Even if carried out on Humanitarian grounds he still has to report to parliament ASAP saying how, what, where, and why. I imagine it must be similar in some ways to the Obama administration. It seems to me in these threads that Obama is disliked as much for himself as for his polices that people disagree with. The Real problem here, may be that Obama IS Acting in Isolation. Isn't that the actions of a dictator? ID: 1584038 ·

Clyde "Liberal" Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62	Message 1584028 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 1584016. The British Prime minister doesn't act in isolation, he has his advisors, the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consult. Even then military action has to be authorised by Parliament. Even if carried out on Humanitarian grounds he still has to report to parliament ASAP saying how, what, where, and why. I imagine it must be similar in some ways to the Obama administration. It seems to me in these threads that Obama is disliked as much for himself as for his polices that people disagree with. The Real problem here, may be that Obama IS Acting in Isolation. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton ID: 1584028 ·

Gone with the wind Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 41704 Credit: 42,645,437 RAC: 95	Message 1584016 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:19:54 UTC The British Prime minister doesn't act in isolation, he has his advisors, the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consult. Even then military action has to be authorised by Parliament. Even if carried out on Humanitarian grounds he still has to report to parliament ASAP saying how, what, where, and why. I imagine it must be similar in some ways to the Obama administration. It seems to me in these threads that Obama is disliked as much for himself as for his polices that people disagree with. ID: 1584016 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 33903 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 41	Message 1583987 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 16:53:56 UTC - in response to Message 1583981. Just a thought. Carter 'Putting Down' Obama? Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse. Give the man a break will ye, he has a s*t load of weight on his shoulders... Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break? What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'? Julie...* Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree. Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama. I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL) Everyone who has graduated from the Chicago Politician School of Olfactory Delights has become hard boiled and has oversize cojones. And I know Julie has no clue about Chicago Politics, the place Obama started. http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/989.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/recycled/2008/12/why_is_chicago_so_corrupt.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago Thanx for the links Gary, I remembered something about the corruption scandals in Chicago politics. Are you trying to say Obama is corrupt? As I said before I really don't follow abroad politics that much but I would be surprised if that were the case. rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1583987 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 26997 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 73	Message 1583981 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 16:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1583941. Just a thought. Carter 'Putting Down' Obama? Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse. Give the man a break will ye, he has a s*t load of weight on his shoulders... Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break? What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'? Julie...* Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree. Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama. I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL) Everyone who has graduated from the Chicago Politician School of Olfactory Delights has become hard boiled and has oversize cojones. And I know Julie has no clue about Chicago Politics, the place Obama started. http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/989.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/recycled/2008/12/why_is_chicago_so_corrupt.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago ID: 1583981 ·

KWSN - MajorKong Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0	Message 1583966 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 16:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 1583941. Eggs.... Balls... ROFLMAO... very entertaining choice of words, Julie. ID: 1583966 ·

Clyde "Liberal" Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62	Message 1583943 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 14:45:57 UTC Last modified: 9 Oct 2014, 14:46:28 UTC I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have. Julie... Love your choice of words. When Obama was elected, said to those who opposed him, 'Give him a couple of years, and he will 'Grow in Office' - as Kennedy did'. Obama didn't. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton ID: 1583943 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 33903 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 41	Message 1583941 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 14:41:11 UTC - in response to Message 1583937. Last modified: 9 Oct 2014, 14:47:44 UTC Just a thought. Carter 'Putting Down' Obama? Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse. Give the man a break will ye, he has a s*t load of weight on his shoulders... Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break? What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'? Julie...* Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree. Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama. I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL) rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1583941 ·

Clyde "Liberal" Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62	Message 1583938 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 14:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 1583867. i agree Julie . He inheritad a mess from J.W.B and hasn't done to bad . J.W.B. broke it. I agree. Obama can't fix it. I agree. We need a Competent Fixer. Obama's not that person. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton ID: 1583938 ·

Clyde "Liberal" Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62	Message 1583937 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 14:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 1583650. Just a thought. Carter 'Putting Down' Obama? Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse. Give the man a break will ye, he has a s*t load of weight on his shoulders... Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break? What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'? Julie...* Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree. Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton ID: 1583937 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 7	Message 1583867 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 10:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1583841. i agree Julie . He inheritad a mess from J.W.B and hasn't done to bad . ID: 1583867 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 33903 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 41	Message 1583841 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 7:26:57 UTC He's way better than Reagan, Nixon, Clinton or Bush tho. rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1583841 ·

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