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消息 1664913 - 发表于:13 Apr 2015, 8:54:35 UTC

Lot's of OFF TOPIC now
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消息 1664755 - 发表于:13 Apr 2015, 2:15:16 UTC - 回复消息 1664708.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)

No, I got it right, Es in her posts implies all those not on the front line are not part of the conflict. But how many of them directly support the cause with donations or actual work, is unknown. And there are suggestions that donations for humanitarian causes are diverted frequently into the hands of Hamas. Like cement, supposedly to rebuild being used for tunnels.

If it is unknown then the last thing you want to do is inflict collective punishment on the people of Gaza. That will only make thing worse.
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With Es99 verbiage, signifying internal confusion regarding 'Thinking out of her Universe':

Believe I have made my point.

I think your first sentence makes my point.
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消息 1664708 - 发表于:12 Apr 2015, 22:19:16 UTC - 回复消息 1664456.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)

No, I got it right, Es in her posts implies all those not on the front line are not part of the conflict. But how many of them directly support the cause with donations or actual work, is unknown. And there are suggestions that donations for humanitarian causes are diverted frequently into the hands of Hamas. Like cement, supposedly to rebuild being used for tunnels.
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消息 1664573 - 发表于:12 Apr 2015, 16:41:22 UTC - 回复消息 1664499.  
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Es99...

This is what I Posted, and Your Response:

Again, as always, misinterpreting what I said.

I take huge issue with this sentence, because you are implying that I often don't know what you are trying to say deliberately. That is another way of saying I am being quite nasty. I don't like your accusation and I don't agree with it. You are being unpleasant.
It is a habit of yours.

That is your claim. It is a rude and unhelpful claim. I can only assume that you are being rude and unhelpful because you are angry.

EVERYTHING you stated above, is true. So?


I don't know what this sentence means.

You have capitalised EVERYTHING, which implies you are shouting. You have phrased it like a question, yet there is no question mark. Is that a typo? What does the 'so?' mean at the end? It looks like a question..but as I don't understand if you have already asked me a question or you are agreeing with my former post. I have no idea what the 'So?' means.

So I can take what you wrote here to mean. "everything you have said is true, we are in agreement" or "everything you say is true?" which implies disbelief. The capitalisation of EVERYTHING makes me think you are annoyed.

At this point I give up trying to understand.

Has NOTHING to do with the Foundation of my Post.

There is a word missing at the beginning of your sentence which makes it hard to interpret what has nothing to do with the foundation of your post. The capitalisation of the word NOTHING implies you are shouting and angry, but without the word at the beginning of your sentence it is hard to know what you are shouting about. The word could be "it" it could be "this" it could be "cats" I have no idea as I am already lost as to what your are talking about right from the start of your post. I am also wandering why there is a capital letter at the beginning of Foundation. This implies some importance to word, but as there is no clarity as to what the foundation of your post actually is, this sentence also conveys very little meaning.

Why would believing that 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely', have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Negative, will Always out way Positive, have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Evil, will ALWAYS take power from the Majority Good, have you Posting the above?

Why?

This is where it gets weird because I didn't reply to that. Looking back I carefully snipped out that and replied to the following part of your post:

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Humans, of course. With ALL the Negatives, and Positives.

Unfortunately, The Negatives, always outweigh The Positives.
..


as you can see, there is nothing there about 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. Nothing. So your reply is absolute insane nonsense. No wonder I was confused. When I read your reply I felt like Dorothy landing in Oz. I was not in Kanasas any more.

Not only that, you seemed really annoyed about it. Remember what I said about writing in capital letters makes it look like you are shouting? Read out your post remember to shout the words in capital letters, and remember, you are replying about my supposed reply to something you said that I very carefully didn't reply to.

Just another heads up, the 3 dots "..." before and after what I quoted are there to show that I have snipped out part of your quote. Not to be tidy, but because I am not referring to those parts of your posts.

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Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.

I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.

I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

I hope that now I have taken to the time to explain what is confusing about your posts you have a better understanding as to why people misunderstand you.

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Why would believing that 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely', have you Posting the above?

It didn't. So I hope that clears that up for you. When you start shouting about something that literally did not happen, it can get very bewildering.

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Hopefully we've cleared that up now and you will monitor your use of capital letters and incomplete sentences. When you leave words or punctuation out of a sentence it gives the impression that you have typed so furiously that you haven't noticed your errors.

Why believing that Negative, will Always out way Positive, have you Posting the above?

..because it gave the impression that you think the worst of people. If that is not what you mean by that sentence, then you need to explain what you did mean.

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Missing words, missing punctuation, complaining about things that didn't happen, not defining the subject of your sentence and intermittent use of words typed all in capitals.

Why believing that Evil, will ALWAYS take power from the Majority Good, have you Posting the above?

I am not sure what you are talking about here, as it did not have me posting the above. You have asked "why" I did something when I had not done it. Its rather like asking someone when they last beat their wife. It might be a great interrogation technique, but it is a terrible discussion technique. Have you ever been interrogated by a cop? Even as a witness? Its a horrible experience. If you insist of using that technique here you are creating that horrible experience for everyone else. Except here we don't have to put up with it.

Oh, and again, your capitalising of words for emphasis gives your sentence a weird cadence that does sound like you are ranting. Try reading it out shouting the words all in capitals and emphasising the words you have given a capital letter. It sounds strange right?

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Could you please explain?


I have. Normally I would charge $50/h for marking your work, but this one is for free.
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Sorry, you lost me there and I admit it.
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消息 1664456 - 发表于:12 Apr 2015, 10:06:18 UTC - 回复消息 1664274.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)
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消息 1664274 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 21:45:01 UTC - 回复消息 1663338.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.
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消息 1664271 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 21:32:33 UTC - 回复消息 1664187.  
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Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.
I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.
I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

????
Please explain ES99...

Typing something all in capital letters is considered shouting on internet forums. Clyde appears to shout a lot.
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消息 1664187 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 18:24:24 UTC - 回复消息 1664175.  

Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.
I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.
I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

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Please explain ES99...
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消息 1664182 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 18:17:12 UTC - 回复消息 1664179.  

That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.

It's easier to use anagrams of words that you know, rather then look for new ones. Next week he will use live and veil.

You know I never noticed that. Do you think it is deliberate? Like a poetry thing.
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That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.

It's easier to use anagrams of words that you know, rather then look for new ones. Next week he will use live and veil.
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消息 1664175 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 18:07:22 UTC - 回复消息 1664139.  

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Humans, of course. With ALL the Negatives, and Positives.

Unfortunately, The Negatives, always outweigh The Positives.
..

Now that comment gives me quite an insight into your world view.

Are you aware of the simple fact that with 8 billion people on the planet, most of them must be fairly peaceful and nice, or we'd be living in apocalyptic chaos?

The every day acts of heroic love and kindness do not make the news.

Its actually a minority of people that do all the terrible things in the world.

Muslims make up 23% of the global population. Most of them aren't trying to kill you.

The ones that are have grown up in unstable regions where they have seen loved ones murdered and oppressed by Western forces. Perhaps they didn't realise that their loved ones were being killed by "the good guys" for their own good.

Again, as always, misinterpreting what I said. It is a habit of yours.

EVERYTHING you stated above, is true. So?

Has NOTHING to do with the Foundation of my Post.

Why would believing that 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely', have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Negative, will Always out way Positive, have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Evil, will ALWAYS take power from the Majority Good, have you Posting the above?

Why?

Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.

I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.

I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.
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消息 1664159 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 17:34:12 UTC

This is valid as Egypt is involved in the dispute.

Where are the Western Forces involved in this?

When they can't even treat their own on a humane level, how can one expect Israel to accommodate the Muslim world when that world wants them gone?
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Global Peace Index
The world's leading measure of national peacefulness, the GPI measures peace according to 22 qualitative and quantitative indicators.
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/contact
If you look at middle east it look quite good if you exlude Syria, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan.
If you look at Europe even better if you exlude KALININGRAD, Russia, Ukraine and perhaps Greece.

Global Terror Index
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US Peace Index.
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/indexes/us-peace-index
UK Peace Index.
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/indexes/uk-peace-index
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Humans, of course. With ALL the Negatives, and Positives.

Unfortunately, The Negatives, always outweigh The Positives.
..

Now that comment gives me quite an insight into your world view.

Are you aware of the simple fact that with 8 billion people on the planet, most of them must be fairly peaceful and nice, or we'd be living in apocalyptic chaos?

The every day acts of heroic love and kindness do not make the news.

Its actually a minority of people that do all the terrible things in the world.

Muslims make up 23% of the global population. Most of them aren't trying to kill you.
The ones that are have grown up in unstable regions where they have seen loved ones murdered and oppressed by Western forces. Perhaps they didn't realise that their loved ones were being killed by "the good guys" for their own good.

So their own killing them before Western Forces entered the fray does not count? Or their own killing them after Western forces depart does not count?
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Humans, of course. With ALL the Negatives, and Positives.

Unfortunately, The Negatives, always outweigh The Positives.
..

Now that comment gives me quite an insight into your world view.

Are you aware of the simple fact that with 8 billion people on the planet, most of them must be fairly peaceful and nice, or we'd be living in apocalyptic chaos?

The every day acts of heroic love and kindness do not make the news.

Its actually a minority of people that do all the terrible things in the world.

Muslims make up 23% of the global population. Most of them aren't trying to kill you.

The ones that are have grown up in unstable regions where they have seen loved ones murdered and oppressed by Western forces. Perhaps they didn't realise that their loved ones were being killed by "the good guys" for their own good.
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消息 1664111 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 15:38:57 UTC - 回复消息 1664105.  

I know I've often said that it takes all sorts to make a world, but sometimes, just sometimes...
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消息 1664105 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 15:27:19 UTC - 回复消息 1664081.  

But who is populating those organisations? Ghosts? Extra-Terrestrials? Klingons?



Sirus, funny you should say 'Klingons'...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3018411.stm


Wanted: Klingon interpreter


A mental health service in the United States is looking for a translator who is fluent in Klingon, the language used in the television and film series Star Trek.

Klingon is just one of about 55 languages needed by Multnomah County, in Oregon, which serves about 60,000 mental health patients.

"We have to provide information in all the languages our clients speak," said Jerry Jelusich, from the county's department of human services.

Although created for works of fiction, Klingon was designed to have a consistent grammar, syntax and vocabulary.

Officials in Multnomah County have found many people - and not just fans - consider it a complete language.

"There are some cases where we've had mental health patients where this was all they would speak," said Franna Hathaway, another county official.

They say this obligates them to respond with a Klingon-English interpreter.
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But who is populating those organisations? Ghosts? Extra-Terrestrials? Klingons?
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