The Israel and Palestine conflict - Part 2

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消息 1664064 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 13:22:16 UTC - 回复消息 1664061.  

Except for Religious Fanatics: I don't see 'Main Stream' Religions, having an 'All or Nothing' Philosophy, in many areas.

& that's the problem! They decide what is best for the masses. Do their holy books actually say the "little ones" can slip through the net?

How about the meek shall inherit the World?

That's what is worrying all those sociopaths & control freaks.
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消息 1664061 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 13:15:43 UTC - 回复消息 1664053.  

Except for Religious Fanatics: I don't see 'Main Stream' Religions, having an 'All or Nothing' Philosophy, in many areas.

& that's the problem! They decide what is best for the masses. Do their holy books actually say the "little ones" can slip through the net?

How about the meek shall inherit the World?
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消息 1664053 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 12:40:25 UTC - 回复消息 1663964.  

Except for Religious Fanatics: I don't see 'Main Stream' Religions, having an 'All or Nothing' Philosophy, in many areas.

& that's the problem! They decide what is best for the masses. Do their holy books actually say the "little ones" can slip through the net?
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消息 1664031 - 发表于:11 Apr 2015, 10:02:42 UTC - 回复消息 1663964.  

I am speaking of Christianity and Judaism (only ones I have personal knowledge of).
They have different Interpretations, within their own Theology, regarding many matters.

Oh dear:)
You forgot islam.
Where are these thre major religous most holy place?
Yes Jerusalem.
Do they share the same God?
Yes Javeh God Allah.
Do they share same prohpets?
Sort of Noa, Ham, Sem, Abraham, Jesus, Mohammed.
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消息 1663631 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 15:31:09 UTC - 回复消息 1663605.  

It is the Nature of the Sin, and Amount of Sin, which matters.

If you're going to travel that path, then you're wrong.

Sin is sin, regardless of how small or large.

Sin is like Crime.

There are Criminals who steal Hub Caps, and those who Commit Murder.

There is a difference.

Not where religion is concerned, a sin is a sin. To start "allowing" the little ones to slip through, history has shown that it is difficult to stop the big ones.

So if one wants to use religion, it's all or nothing, wouldn't you agree?
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It is the Nature of the Sin, and Amount of Sin, which matters.

If you're going to travel that path, then you're wrong.

Sin is sin, regardless of how small or large.
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Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.

& that is a worldwide problem not just a Jewish/Arab one. It is also one that will not disappear, at least in our lifetime.

The Jewish vs Egypt/Arab/Sumerians/palestinians/lebanes/manymore problem have existed for about 2600 years!
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消息 1663575 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 13:00:57 UTC - 回复消息 1663338.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.

& that is a worldwide problem not just a Jewish/Arab one. It is also one that will not disappear, at least in our lifetime.
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消息 1663338 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 1:40:33 UTC - 回复消息 1663336.  

Is it racist to think that most Arabs want to see Israel out of the region, when
"A high 84 per cent believe the Palestinian question is the cause of all Arabs and not the Palestinians only."


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/20123793355501965.html

And in case you missed it, recently Amnesty International accused the Palestinians of war crimes.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/26/amnesty-international-accuses-militants-in-gaza-of-war-crimes-in-2014-conflict

The report also alleged other international humanitarian law violations during the conflict, including Palestinian militant groups’ storing munitions in civilian buildings and United Nations schools, and launching attacks near locations where hundreds of displaced civilians were taking shelter.


So who are these civilians? Are they Palestinians?

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.
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Is it racist to think that most Arabs want to see Israel out of the region, when
"A high 84 per cent believe the Palestinian question is the cause of all Arabs and not the Palestinians only."


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/20123793355501965.html

And in case you missed it, recently Amnesty International accused the Palestinians of war crimes.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/26/amnesty-international-accuses-militants-in-gaza-of-war-crimes-in-2014-conflict
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消息 1663326 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 1:15:05 UTC - 回复消息 1663321.  

Calling people Nazi's because they do not agree with Israel's policies is pretty low and considering that you have family that died at the hands of the Nazi's, you should be ashamed of yourself for using them to justify Israel's actions.

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When did I justify Israel's Actions?

Could you please show those reading this Thread, where?

I think it is the way you cry "stop thief" whenever anyone brings it up.
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消息 1663325 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 1:14:03 UTC - 回复消息 1663317.  


Assuming that because someone is a Palestinian that they hate Jewish people is a form of racism.

The 'Racist' charge, by those on The Left, is their last refuge when losing an argument.

How convenient for you to think that. You've created a situation where anyone who is racist can declare themselves the winner of a debate the minute anyone points it out.

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So what exactly were you going to say, about my Jewish Grandmother, which would 'Freak Me Out'?

I have no idea what will freak you out. It will probably have nothing to do with what I actually write knowing you.
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消息 1663306 - 发表于:10 Apr 2015, 0:36:49 UTC
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I think what I find difficult about reading your posts, Clyde, is that you think that anyone pointing out that the state of Israel is behaving in a despicable way towards innocent Palestinian civilians makes them a Nazi sympathiser.

Israel has used this tactic to silence dissent and derail any criticism of them. Assuming that someone can do no wrong because they are Jewish is a form of racism.

Assuming that because someone is a Palestinian that they hate Jewish people is a form of racism.

I also think using your family history to shut down debate is a low move. Especially as you have show that you will freak out if anyone now tries to reference your family history in further arguments.

The holocaust against the Jewish people was an abomination.

The genocide now being perpetuated by the state of Israel is also an abomination. Being critical of the State of Israel does not make you a Nazi sympathiser. I know quite a few Jewish people who think that Israel is behaving very badly. I know a Jewish Israeli woman who thinks that Israel is behaving terribly towards the Palestinians.

Calling people Nazi's because they do not agree with Israel's policies is pretty low and considering that you have family that died at the hands of the Nazi's, you should be ashamed of yourself for using them to justify Israel's actions.
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消息 1663189 - 发表于:9 Apr 2015, 19:50:49 UTC - 回复消息 1663156.  

But, it is the rise of the Nazi Lovers, and Holocaust Deniers, and those who chant "Death to Israel", meaning "DEATH TO THE JEWS":

That are the present threat, and presently Mass Murdering, Crucifying, Burning to Death, Be-Headings anyone, who isn't them.

Mass murdering Christians, Yezidis and other Muslims. They haven't attacked Israel. Do not conflate IS and the Syrian-Iraq conflict with what happens in Israel, the two are so far unrelated. And name dropping them as some sort of justification for Israel's 'self defense' policies is unacceptable. What Israel has been doing it has been doing for decades now, well before a group like IS even existed.

And no, Hamas is in no way the same level of threat to Israel than IS, the casualty figures of last summer only confirm that. So don't even dare say that Hamas is just as bad.
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消息 1663159 - 发表于:9 Apr 2015, 18:12:39 UTC - 回复消息 1663154.  

We must never forget the massacre in Deir Yassin

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Maybe if the Arab nations had accepted UN Resolution 181, the past 67 years history of that region could have had a much better outcome.

Maybe if the UN resolution hadn't been made the past 67 years history of that region could have had a better outcome. I am sure there were other ways the security of the Jewish people could have been protected without creating a different oppressed group.

It wasn't the Jewish State that caused that group, but the Palestinian Mandate which set that region ablaze. What is it about that small nation that scares those with the money & oil?
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We must never forget the massacre in Deir Yassin

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Maybe if the Arab nations had accepted UN Resolution 181, the past 67 years history of that region could have had a much better outcome.

Maybe if the UN resolution hadn't been made the past 67 years history of that region could have had a better outcome. I am sure there were other ways the security of the Jewish people could have been protected without creating a different oppressed group.
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消息 1663152 - 发表于:9 Apr 2015, 17:58:29 UTC - 回复消息 1663148.  

We must never forget the massacre in Deir Yassin

Reminds me of my Jewish Grandmother, who raised us, in an Italian Immigrant, Catholic Household.

We had Old, B&W Photos, of OUR Family, Murdered by the Nazis, and their Supporters, on the walls. She would always cry.

We are again seeing a rise of the Filthy, Vile, and Evil, Nazi Lovers - Jihadists!!!

NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!

Then you understand that this massacre by Jewish Zionists against Palestinians is an act of evil?
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We must never forget the massacre in Deir Yassin

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Maybe if the Arab nations had accepted UN Resolution 181, the past 67 years history of that region could have had a much better outcome.
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消息 1594554 - 发表于:30 Oct 2014, 19:54:25 UTC - 回复消息 1594538.  

Reminds me of childrens in a sandbox.

They are much more innocent! (even the ones with the 'evil genes')

Yes.
But Avigdor Lieberman is not a child.
He is the Foreign Minister of Israel and should know better.
It is not often that diplomates ridicules other states!
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