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Washington (CNN) -- I'll let you know what's going on, but I don't need new congressional authority to act, President Barack Obama told congressional leaders Wednesday about his upcoming decision on possible military intervention in Iraq.

He will consult with congress.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/18/politics/us-iraq/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Obama to Congress: I don't need new permission on Iraq

ALL President's have said/acted like Obama. Even after the Congressional War Powers Act was passed.

Note to Non-American's: This Act was passed after Nixon, limiting President's Authority as Commander-In-Chief. This has been disregarded by subsequent President's as Unconstitutional. Never has been brought to the Federal Courts for a Constitutional Ruling.

Never going to happen either. Because all these governors and congressmen have the idea that, some day, they will be President and they will not want their powers curbed when they get there.

WHAT The F***!!!

Military***Advisors!!!!! To I R A Q?

R U Kidding US???

Sending More Targets and Hostages, mO Like 'it'.

What A Useless Whacked PitifulPeacePrizin'DroneHitManHammerin'&Nailin''emHustlin'HusseinFaaaaaaaaaaaaReek.

Jeez 'O Flip

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

This situation is not unlike the Andrew Johnson impeachment. Johnson also refused to obey a law he thought was unconstitutional. Impeachment is a political processes so it it always an option.

300 Green Berets aren't boots on the ground they are only advisers. The first advise they will give is don't throw your weapon down wile you run away in civilian cloths.

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That was not a fine thing you did Dull.

Put The Kittens back with Their Mother? No? Hmmm. No Hero then.

Moving Kittens About, from One Possible Threat to Another. No Heroics at all.

Go Ahead, again, Pat YourSelf on the Back and Relish The Congratualatories of Everyone, 'cept me.

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Julie said:

That was not a fine thing you did Dull.

I'm not a LickSpittle. I Read. I Commented. Public Forum. EveryOne is a Stranger. Even Ones Met and taken a Picture Of or With. Strangers. Heroes are People No One Knows are Heroic.

Back to The Topic of This Thread:

ISIS has An Annual Report on Their Activities. Lists all "Achievements". Amazing. They Calculate their moves and Know there will be No Air Power used against them by U S A.

Most Powerful Military in History and Worst President is Giving 'Advice'.

Hey PitifulPeacePrizerPOtus, if you saw a Kitty on The Roof.....

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Strangers. Heroes are People No One Knows are Heroic.

Sorry to be off topic once again here Dull but that's just what I meant!

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2001: A Bunch of Affected in A Little Area in The Mountains, half a World Away.

2014: The Bunch of Affected Control, Almost, A Whole Country. And Like-Minded, A Whole Region.

So, 2001 to 2014: What Did Those In Control of the U S A do for Our Precious 'National Security'? Yeah. fO shO.

And these Same Types of People are Still In Charge of U S A.

Masters of Oblivion.

And Yeah, 'It' has Gotten Way Worse since Hammerin'Hustlin'Hussein and HIS CoHorts have been In Charge.

Got PeacePrize?

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Welcome to the NEW World.

Since 1945, Bad Guy's would have to calculate the response of The US. If they calculated US weakness/non-interest, they might act. They have had no fear of International Law/International Opinion without a Law Enforcement Power (Raw US Military Power). This is now over. The ONLY True World Policeman is going home.

Say what you wish about all the Bad Things the US has done since 1945. Just ask those tens of thousands (or more) of people getting their heads publicly cut off, poisoned with gas, etc., if they wish to have The US save them? Because nobody else can.

The new world, not any different than the old world because in the old world the US most of the time looked the other way as well. If the US ever was a policemen it was one that was as utterly corrupt since it would only act if it felt its interests were threatened. Which usually meant that bad guys could get away with almost anything as long as they opposed the Soviets and did not threaten US interests. The only thing that has changed is that regimes now have to oppose terrorism instead of Communism.

Korea? fought the Communists to a standstill, but supported a dictatorial regime in South Korea.

Vietnam? tried to fight the Communists to a standstill but again supported a dictator that was hated by anyone and who also brutally repressed his own people.

Taiwan? The left overs of a corrupt Chinese regime simply because they were not Communists.

Greece? Supported a military junta.

South America. Supported fascists and military juntas because they opposed communism/socialism/protected American business interests. Often by bringing down the popular and democratic regimes that were functioning just fine.

Iran? Brought down a democratically elected leader, replaced him with a brutal dictator until that backfired in 1979. Moved to support that other brutal dictator in the next country because he was waging a war against Iran.
Actually, America has supported almost every dictator in the Middle East with money and equipment.

And Afghanistan? Supported a bunch of Muslim extremists with enough cash and weapons to fight off the Soviets, which then enabled them to overthrow the relatively modern and open Afghan government to replace it with the Taliban. The Taliban wouldn't have existed if America hadn't supported the Taliban this much.

So really, to suggest that America was stopping bad guys from doing evil is just historically not true. I'm willing to say that you guys supported them more often than you fought them, and if you did fight them, you were often only helping another dictator. There are only a few cases where one can say that America went in to actually fight 'bad guys' without trying to replace them with other bad guys.

Very childish response. Only children believe that people, or country's are without sin.

Im not the one proclaiming the US to be the savior of the world by putting the boot to bad people while protecting the rest of the world. The only one who continuously states that without the US 'the bad guys' would do horrible things to their own people is you.

Mature adults understand sometimes the choice in geopolitical realities, as in life, is not between good and bad, but between very bad, and less bad.

The people you supported were in some cases the 'very bad'. And in any case, it means you cannot claim that America is the one country that prevents bad people from committing atrocities.

Korea, according to you, would have been better off controlled by Kim Il-sung, and his mass murdering son and grandson. How stupid can one be.

Lets be honest here, the reason the US went in had nothing to do with how bad Kim Il-Sung was. It was simply because he was a Communist and America did not want Communism to spread. That you prevented a complete mad man from taking over the rest of the country was simply a nice side effect.

The Taiwanese people would have preferred the mass murdering Mao? Another stupid argument.

Oh no, but this again the same as Korea. America supported Taiwan because they were not Communists, not because they believed the Taiwanese government was such a great government.

The Netherlands would have preferred the NAZI’s? The stupidity continues.

The Netherlands was a functioning democracy before the Nazi occupation and became a functioning democracy again afterwards. Sure, America handled the Second World War relatively good, but in this case you do not get to claim all the credit. The Netherlands was just as much liberated by the other Allies. Besides, thats all you did there. You helped kick the Nazis out, and afterwards provided us with cheap loans. You didn't try to make us more like you, you didn't interfere in our state building or our historical and cultural traditions like being a constitutional monarchy.

Putin is better than US Presidents? Ask the oppressed Crimean’s and the Ukraine’s fighting for their freedom.

What oppressed Crimeans? Oh, you mean that small minority? Oh yeah sure, they don't like Putin. But most people on Crimea are just fine with being part of Russia. Remember, they literally asked for it.

As for Ukraine itself. Well, I'd say the vote is split. Clearly a significant group of people in Donetsk want to be part of Russia again and clearly they like Putin, or at least they like him more than who ever is in charge in Kiev. Sure, I don't like Moscow, but I'm not sure if Kiev is such a great alternative.

South America? Their problems are basically of their own making. Only their corrupt oligarchs, and persons who believe Latin’s are inferior, and therefore cannot be held responsible for their own bad decisions, would blame anyone else.

Oh please, popular, democratically elected, law abiding socialists presidents were about to hurt American business interests in the region, thus prompting the CIA to back fascists military generals to stage coups under the condition they gave American business interests free reign to do whatever they want. South America was the Chicago's school of economics own social economic experiment, sanctioned by the US government.

Again a perfect example of how the US supported the 'very bad' faction.

I accept my own sins, and the sins of The USA. Only an idiot would believe Putin, Mao, Kim Il-sung, et al, are not worse than The USA.

Granted, the US hasn't crossed into mass murdering its own people yet, its merely responsible for instigating mass murder in other countries. Are you as bad as Putin or Mao or Kim Il-Sung? Not in the same way. Where those countries 'badness' mostly means they hurt their own people, the US 'badness' mostly hurts people who aren't American. And you guys have hurt A LOT of non-Americans.

Let us pray that the peoples of the world are not controlled by Leaders who think like you.

Perhaps the world needs more people who do not longer put the US on a pedestal of unquestionable moral and ethical virtue, and instead treat it as just another questionable state that only operates on its own selfish interests. Because as bad as you guys have been, we have enabled you by touting your behavior as virtuous and never providing much of a counter weight to it. Its time the special treatment ends.

Over the years we have taken in a lot of refugees from that area of the world who wanted to escape all that fighting and blood shed, but now some of them are going back to actively cause more havoc. :-O

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/fears-australian-jihadists-being-trained-at-universities-for-terrorists/story-fnii5s3x-1226962467183

Bloody idiots. :-(

Don't get it, as usual. You are living in the past. I know this may be difficult, since people of your thinking have been talking a mantra since 1945. But now you have to change which is the 'bad country' responsible for ALL the world's sins. I do have faith that you, and other's who think (sic) like you, can finally enter the world as it is now, and will be in the future.

I never said that there is one country that is responsible for all the worlds sins.

USA "the savior of the world"? Who said that? YOU! I never did. Just read my posts. I said The USA is "Less Bad" than many other powerful country's. Now The World will have to deal with the "More Bad" future powerful country's.

Oh this is rich. Now you are saying that I said that the US is the worlds savior, the country that as the 'one true policeman' keeps the bad guys in check.

If you read my posts I simply contest your view that the US is one of the 'less bad' countries and that in fact, its one of the 'more bad' countries.

I find the foundation of your posts to be boring, silly, stuck in the past, and very unimaginative. Please update your thinking.

Aww, do the facts bother you that much?

Most of the middle-east will become a glass-topped parking lot after the mushroom clouds.

There is nothing anyone can do to stop it either.

The E.U. had better close it's borders and run out those who wish it harm NOW.

The E.U. had better look to its history with the middle-east and remember that they wont make the same mistake this time.

And you had better remember we wont be coming to your aide this time either.

Glenn Beck was right, and the left was right too.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

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Sunni rebels in Iraq say they have fully captured the country's main oil refinery at Baiji, north of Baghdad.

The refinery had been under siege for 10 days with the militant offensive being repulsed several times.

The complex supplies a third of Iraq's refined fuel and the battle has already led to petrol rationing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27990478

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Whenever DroneHitMan Needs A Cig, he Goes to da Head, whips Out his CrackBerry and Pipes Out another Whithering Post 'bout AmeriKa Unexceptionallism, under da Guise of Netherlands Guy. DAMN!!!

Everythang OBlabby Wants fO AmeriKa is Exactly what NetherGuy says in HIS Posts! Fantastical. But True. OBlahBlahBlah must Conduit HIS Message This Way, ALL Over AmeriKa and da Vrold. Using Untold Numbers of NETHERLand Type Dudes/Dudettes.

HuWoMan 'O Live.

No Wonder da Poop Pile is Where AmeriKa is Dwelling. Soldier Tinker Sailor Spy ing U S A to ShatsVille.

OOoooohBA.

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You really believe Policemen aren't necessary? I said the ONLY Real Policeman in the world is The USA. All Police Forces are with sin.

If by policeman you mean what the US did since the end of WW2 then yeah I don't think the world needs them.

The USA is one of the 'more bad' country's? Please tell us which present, future 'Powerful Country's, are better.

There are only two for the foreseeable future: China and Putin's Russia.

China because of its vast economy, and Putin's Russia, because of its vast resources and control of Western Europe's energy.

Just ask the people boarding these two, what they think.

The Russians themselves are okay with Putin, they have had to put up with much worse over the past 1000 years, and currently the average Chinese person never has been richer or more free than right now, so they to don't really mind the current government there.

But they aren't the only countries that are bound to be end up powerful in the future. They aren't striving for another bipolar world like during the cold war. Never heard of the BRICs? Brazil, India and South Africa are missing from your list of future powerful countries (I admit, South Africa is a bit dubious at this point).

Note: It does get tiresome attempting to debate Religious Theology (ID another thread), or Secular Theology (Мишель).

Secular theology? You think debating US foreign policy history is secular theology? Hmm, alright.

You really believe Policemen aren't necessary? I said the ONLY Real Policeman in the world is The USA. All Police Forces are with sin.

If by policeman you mean what the US did since the end of WW2 then yeah I don't think the world needs them.

The USA is one of the 'more bad' country's? Please tell us which present, future 'Powerful Country's, are better.

There are only two for the foreseeable future: China and Putin's Russia.

China because of its vast economy, and Putin's Russia, because of its vast resources and control of Western Europe's energy.

Just ask the people boarding these two, what they think.

The Russians themselves are okay with Putin, they have had to put up with much worse over the past 1000 years, and currently the average Chinese person never has been richer or more free than right now, so they to don't really mind the current government there.

But they aren't the only countries that are bound to be end up powerful in the future. They aren't striving for another bipolar world like during the cold war. Never heard of the BRICs? Brazil, India and South Africa are missing from your list of future powerful countries (I admit, South Africa is a bit dubious at this point).

Note: It does get tiresome attempting to debate Religious Theology (ID another thread), or Secular Theology (Мишель).

Secular theology? You think debating US foreign policy history is secular theology? Hmm, alright.

Thats a nice attitude to take. I could care less if Russia takes over Western Europe then. Thats your problem. I could also care less if the Middle east wants to go back to barbarism for the next 1000 years killing each other off left and right. They seem to like hateing each other more than they hate the west. They call us Infidels, I say they are imbeciel's.

I wish the US would just say the hell with you all. Live with your own problems and leave us out of it. You in Europe hate our guts any way so why should we be the worlds policeman? Why dont you take a crack at it for a change.

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Thats a nice attitude to take. I could care less if Russia takes over Western Europe then. Thats your problem. I could also care less if the Middle east wants to go back to barbarism for the next 1000 years killing each other off left and right. They seem to like hateing each other more than they hate the west. They call us Infidels, I say they are imbeciel's.

I wish the US would just say the hell with you all. Live with your own problems and leave us out of it. You in Europe hate our guts any way so why should we be the worlds policeman? Why dont you take a crack at it for a change.

Well you don't have to care about Russia taking over Western Europe because thats an unrealistic scenario anyways. Even during the Cold War that was not Russia's agenda, and it most certainly isn't now.

And the Middle East? What possible threat do they form for us? They are to busy fighting among themselves and apart from maybe some terrorists setting off a bomb now and again they can't harm us. And as for terrorism, we all like to focus on Islamic terror, but we completely forget that terrorism can come from all directions. Right Wing extremists, Left Wing extremists, Separatists extremists, Nationalist extremists, etc. And honestly, over the past few decades all those other forms of extremism have racked up a much higher body count than Islamic terror has ever done in Europe.

The thing is, the world doesnt need a policeman like the US pretended to be, a country that took unilateral action whenever it saw fit. If there should be a policeman, it should be one that represents the interests of the entire world, and not just a tiny fraction of it. So, I don't want Europe to take a crack it either, because I know we won't be much better at it.

Dont ever discount Russia. And the Middle East has oil. So what goes on there will affect what you pay for most commodities. The sooner we stop using oil the sooner the Middle East can eat sand and drink oil.

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Dont ever discount Russia. And the Middle East has oil. So what goes on there will affect what you pay for most commodities. The sooner we stop using oil the sooner the Middle East can eat sand and drink oil.

What ever gave people the idea that Russia has always been secretly plotting to conquer Europe?

How does Western Europe defend its Oil/Food? He really believes there is something called International Law, International Trade, etc., without raw military power.

By having good relations with the guys that produce the oil. We do not need to threaten everyone with military force if they don't give us what we want, we simply talk it out and come to an agreement that is acceptable for all.

International law does exist without military power. The US sticks to international law for the most part and that is not because its afraid someone is going to bomb them if they don't. The same goes for Europe and a lot of other Western countries. Its part of our culture, to respect the rule of law.

International trade also does not need military power to exist. Trade happens because its beneficial to both parties involved. Everyone gains from trading. And unless trade routes go straight through areas that are unsafe, the military is not required.

But sure, the military has its use, no one is denying that. But in todays world, its not the only tool people can use in international politics and foreign policy, which is perhaps something Americans tend to forget, which is why they are now stuck with a massively oversized military, a military-industrial complex that is out of control and a reflex to wage war on every little problem they encounter. You know what they say "if your only tool is a hammer, soon every problem is a nail."