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Message 1543852 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 15:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 1543850.  

We discussed this too often already but it stays interesting:)


Is the universe a bubble? Let's check


Perimeter Associate Faculty member Matthew Johnson and his colleagues are working to bring the multiverse hypothesis, which to some sounds like a fanciful tale, firmly into the realm of testable science.


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It certainly does (stay interesting) and we certainly did (discuss it) and didn't we have fun :)

Thanks Julie :) at the risk of sounding repetitive - very interesting :)



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Message 1543850 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 15:17:43 UTC - in response to Message 1543841.  

We discussed this too often already but it stays interesting:)


Is the universe a bubble? Let's check


Perimeter Associate Faculty member Matthew Johnson and his colleagues are working to bring the multiverse hypothesis, which to some sounds like a fanciful tale, firmly into the realm of testable science.


Click link to watch video


It certainly does (stay interesting) and we certainly did (discuss it) and didn't we have fun :)

Thanks Julie :) at the risk of sounding repetitive - very interesting :)
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Message 1543841 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:49:56 UTC

We discussed this too often already but it stays interesting:)


Is the universe a bubble? Let's check


Perimeter Associate Faculty member Matthew Johnson and his colleagues are working to bring the multiverse hypothesis, which to some sounds like a fanciful tale, firmly into the realm of testable science.


Click link to watch video
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Message 1522852 - Posted: 31 May 2014, 0:15:20 UTC - in response to Message 1522851.  
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When i said the "real" universe i was referring to the universe that encompasses everything, including all the possible multi-verses. I think. LOL


It would be interesting to know how many their are if any, we think their is but to prove it? hard to do. If their is the total universe could be googles of years old (10 to the 100) or older.


We run into definition issues again when we speak of multi-verses. Are we talking about the multiple big bang multi-verses or are we talking about the multi-verses (parallel universes) that are created, or branch off our current universe, when any decision is made? Oh man, we need more words!
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Message 1522851 - Posted: 31 May 2014, 0:07:55 UTC - in response to Message 1522846.  

When i said the "real" universe i was referring to the universe that encompasses everything, including all the possible multi-verses. I think. LOL


It would be interesting to know how many their are if any, we think their is but to prove it? hard to do. If their is the total universe could be googles of years old (10 to the 100) or older.
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Message 1522846 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 23:48:09 UTC

When i said the "real" universe i was referring to the universe that encompasses everything, including all the possible multi-verses. I think. LOL
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Message 1522795 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 21:29:03 UTC

Try this one ...

Er riiiight ....
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Message 1522790 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 21:09:07 UTC

Agreed Chris, I can't think of this mans name but he said something like "we know nothing about universe by a lot" but we keep searching.
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Message 1522769 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 20:10:27 UTC

Ah, now, the "spiritual" world is a whole different ball game there. I don't pretend to understand about mediums and sixth sense and so forth, but there is something there I am sure. But I am also sure that I don't know what it is! I know people that can almost foretell events with uncanny accuracy, which can be spooky at times. It's almost as if they can hop into and out of different planes of existence now and again. I have an open mind about everything.
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Message 1522763 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 20:01:42 UTC - in response to Message 1522756.  

The real Universe may be infinite?

Yes we think so Julie. It is infinite in that it has no beginning and no end, it is infinite in any "direction" that we may look, has always been there and always will be. That is a concept that us human beings have considerable trouble in grasping, because we live in a finite world, not an in-finite one.


I once considered the finite world to be only matter and that the 'spiritual' world went beyond that, rather sceptic now at times...
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Message 1522756 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 19:53:23 UTC

The real Universe may be infinite?

Yes we think so Julie. It is infinite in that it has no beginning and no end, it is infinite in any "direction" that we may look, has always been there and always will be. That is a concept that us human beings have considerable trouble in grasping, because we live in a finite world, not an in-finite one.
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Message 1522716 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 17:19:33 UTC - in response to Message 1522653.  

and then there's the universe that that space is expanding into which, if the universe is finite, could be considered as the "real" universe. But, as they suggested in the video, the "real" universe may be infinite, sooo uh ummm, then uh, yeah.

You're getting there, keep going ;-)

Me and my oppo have the theory that there are many big bangs going on in the REAL infinite Universe, we just happen to be in the aftermath of our local one. And moreover, limited to what we can see which is termed the "observable universe". Now, take a look at the picture below.



We are not suggesting that these other big bangs, or for want of a better description "bubble universes", are aligned up in nice straight rows, far from it. If they were then it might be possible to hop from one to another. We think that they are many trillions of light years apart, and any one of them wouldn't know about the other.



The real Universe may be infinite? Do we talk about 'real' as in the reality of matter or what may seem 'real' to us? If it is the latter, I'd say it is infinite to us as we don't know the outcome of what might happen, nevermind...;)
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Message 1522653 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 12:18:19 UTC

and then there's the universe that that space is expanding into which, if the universe is finite, could be considered as the "real" universe. But, as they suggested in the video, the "real" universe may be infinite, sooo uh ummm, then uh, yeah.

You're getting there, keep going ;-)

Me and my oppo have the theory that there are many big bangs going on in the REAL infinite Universe, we just happen to be in the aftermath of our local one. And moreover, limited to what we can see which is termed the "observable universe". Now, take a look at the picture below.



We are not suggesting that these other big bangs, or for want of a better description "bubble universes", are aligned up in nice straight rows, far from it. If they were then it might be possible to hop from one to another. We think that they are many trillions of light years apart, and any one of them wouldn't know about the other.
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Message 1522532 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 22:01:21 UTC - in response to Message 1522226.  
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I came across this and thought it might answer some of the questions asked.

Biggest Misconceptions About The Universe Explained


Nice link! Kinda touches on the different definitions of "universe". Some people like to define our universe as the observable universe bounded by the particle horizon, but there's the space beyond that, and then there's the universe that that space is expanding into which, if the universe is finite, could be considered as the "real" universe. But, as they suggested in the video, the "real" universe may be infinite, sooo uh ummm, then uh, yeah.
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Message 1522364 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 11:32:49 UTC
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Please make it stop. Anybody can say anything they want because nobody knows.

It was god; ask Fr. Georges LemaƮtre
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Message 1522259 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 5:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 1522240.  

I came across this and thought it might answer some of the questions asked.

Biggest Misconceptions About The Universe Explained

-How did the Big Bang happen only 13.8 billion years ago if the observable Universe has a diameter of 93 billion light years?
Diameter; how can an unknown shape have a diameter? It's deja vu allover again.

Observable universe. The distance we can see, and therefore this would be the radius. It makes no assumptions on what is outside the observable universe.
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Message 1522240 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 3:47:05 UTC - in response to Message 1522226.  

I came across this and thought it might answer some of the questions asked.

Biggest Misconceptions About The Universe Explained

-How did the Big Bang happen only 13.8 billion years ago if the observable Universe has a diameter of 93 billion light years?
Diameter; how can an unknown shape have a diameter? It's deja vu allover again.
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Message 1522226 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 3:10:09 UTC

I came across this and thought it might answer some of the questions asked.

Biggest Misconceptions About The Universe Explained
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Message 1521596 - Posted: 27 May 2014, 15:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1520772.  

"Not of practical relevance; of only theoretical interest".

As first commented years ago for the discovery of the electron and then again for the controversial idea of Quantum Theory.

You need a good academic understanding of both to understand how transistors work to design them.

Their utility in our modern world is history...

All very academic...

Keep searchin',
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When Johannes Kepler found his long-cherished belief did not agree with the most precise observation, he accepted the uncomfortable fact. He preferred the hard truth to his dearest illusions, that is the heart of science

"... the ways by which men arrive at knowledge of the celestial things
are hardly less wonderful than the nature of these things themselves"

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Message 1521433 - Posted: 26 May 2014, 22:55:03 UTC

there are no practical applications to knowing the size or shape of the universe,


of course not


Today's theoretical physics is tomorrow's applied physics.


As evolution will teach us:)
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