Actually ASRock is owned by ASUS and my 2500K has been sitting in an ASRock Z68 Extreme4 quite well over the last 4yrs with both dual and triple GPU setups.

Gigabyte is a totally different story here as I had nothing but quality issues with them several years back and I will not go back there.

Cheers.

true gigabyte was complete crap years ago but here is where it gets interesting

gigabyte stole all the mobo engineers from evga and from that day it got 500% better
their boards are pretty good nowadays actually they got really really good

asrock might be owned by asus but it will still be inferior to asus

opinions on boards are all different and i do hear ya on the gigabyte issue

my best advice is probably gonna be look at asus/gigabyte read reviews on both of them and also read asrock reviews

i personally would stay away from asrock if you can bundle with other boards
i run a z87 asus board and i am very happy with it so far

a asus or gigabyte board will probably perform a lot better then a asrock


edit: i forgot to mention compare the boards and see how many real 16x slots the boards have and if they switch to 8x when you put 2 cards in

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

My main rig's 3750K sits in an ASUS P8Z77.

Actually all of my rigs over the years have had ASUS mobo's, the ASRock was a test that has done well so far.

Cheers.

i m not doubting that the asrock works good i just think that one would get better performance out of a asus or gigabyte at least it has been my expierience so far

oh and maybe look into evga boards they are still great boards

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Actually in reviews at the time the ASRock performed better than similarly spec'd ASUS and Gigabyte boards, was cheaper and had more features/accessories.

Cheers.

i did not know that ... asrock used to be the top of the line for overclockers but they hit a dead spot around 02-06 i havent looked at them since i have to admitt

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Actually ASRock is owned by ASUS and my 2500K has been sitting in an ASRock Z68 Extreme4 quite well over the last 4yrs with both dual and triple GPU setups.

Gigabyte is a totally different story here as I had nothing but quality issues with them several years back and I will not go back there.

Cheers.

I can't stand Gigabyte either, same problems.

The Intel HD4600 seem to be about the same as a GT630 in a comparison of Intel GPU's. I was planning on not putting in a PCIe card for my HTPC, but there is currently some odd scaling issue with the Intel HDMI output and my TV.

I had always used Abit or Asus boards. When I went to make my Core 2 system, many moons ago, I had massive issues with Asus. So I gave Gigabyte a go. Based on reviews of their then current products. I have to say their quality has improved greatly over what it once was. Currently my two main systems are using their GA-Z87X-D3H.

YMMV

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

yup but you know how it is a good rep takes ages to build and is destroyed in seconds

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

yup but you know how it is a good rep takes ages to build and is destroyed in seconds

Yeah I swore off Gigabyte in '99 or '00 and didn't touch them until '09ish.

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

well i m going to bed 2 pm here :P

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Gigabyte is a totally different story here as I had nothing but quality issues with them several years back and I will not go back there.

You sound like a friend of mine- he had 2 different Gigabyte systems & both died. I've had several Gigabyte systems over the years, none of which died (other than external factors- motherboards don't last long once they start corroding).

---

Grant
Darwin NT

asrock might be owned by asus but it will still be inferior to asus

They're pretty much the same, I can't remember if Asus bought out or created Asrock, but they exist as Asus' budget brand.



When all else fails, re-setting the BIOS is well worth it. As mentioned, an overclocking attempt can leave a system dead- only resetting the BIOS will sort it. And there have been several occasions (overclocking not involved) I've had systems that appeared dead & resetting the BIOS revived them.

---

Grant
Darwin NT

Gigabyte is a totally different story here as I had nothing but quality issues with them several years back and I will not go back there.

You sound like a friend of mine- he had 2 different Gigabyte systems & both died. I've had several Gigabyte systems over the years, none of which died (other than external factors- motherboards don't last long once they start corroding).

I actually build and repair a lot of systems each year for others and when board after board keep dying I reckon that there has to be a bigger problem in the quality control of manufacturing them. ;-)

I had a couple of failures with ASUS to, just nowhere near to a tenth (if that even) of the Gigabyte failures.

They're pretty much the same, I can't remember if Asus bought out or created Asrock, but they exist as Asus' budget brand.

ASRock was spun out as ASUStek's value brand in 2002, ASUStek in 2007 then spun out Pegatron as a budget vanilla/OEM based operation mainly supplying boards and laptops to other brands. In 2010 ASUStek then decided to incorporate ASRock and Pegatron under the "Pegatron Corporation" name in order to cut administrative costs associated with running the 2 then separate companies.

Cheers.

I always liked Asus, especially after I had one MSI board go up in magic smoke and its replacement under warranty MSI board go up in flames.

So the next time around that I was shopping around, I went with an Asus motherboard. It served me for a long time, and when it came up for replacement, I looked at Asus boards, found that Asrock had very comparable solutions, yet they were a lot cheaper. So I took in a couple of reviews, direct comparisons between Asus and Asrock boards, and Asrock won almost every time.

That was 10 years ago. All my boards since that time have been Asrock. All 6 of them, for 3 different PCs.

---

I like my new P9-x79-E WS mobo.

What I don't like is the table top fan sitting on the ground net to my open pc case. Thank You (whoever) told that it is a viable set up for cooling. I had to resort to that after installing another two gtx780's.

petri33

---

To overcome Heisenbergs:
"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones

asrock might be owned by asus but it will still be inferior to asus

They're pretty much the same, I can't remember if Asus bought out or created Asrock, but they exist as Asus' budget brand.



When all else fails, re-setting the BIOS is well worth it. As mentioned, an overclocking attempt can leave a system dead- only resetting the BIOS will sort it. And there have been several occasions (overclocking not involved) I've had systems that appeared dead & resetting the BIOS revived them.

yes it is a budget brand and will never be as good as the main product ... there is a reason it is a budget brand

and you completely missed what i said about resetting the bios
it is the last last last resort after all else fails
every new bios should have a automatic clock back when an overclock fails , asus has been doing that for years and like i said you clear the bios you introduce another variable

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Is the red LED between the CPU and the chipset? If so it sounds like it is one of these two:
• The CPU LED (Figure 6, A) indicates an elevated temperature on the processor that could affect performance.
• The VR LED (Figure 6, B) indicates an elevated temperature in the processor
voltage regulator circuit that could affect performance.

Seems like you may now have extra parts for the other system.[/quote]

That was my first thought, but was not the case. The LED involved is on the edge of the mobo above the ram slots. I could not find any docs that mentioned it.

i forgot to mention compare the boards and see how many real 16x slots the boards have and if they switch to 8x when you put 2 cards in

That is a major concern of mine as it is hard to find a board within my price range that has true multiple 16x slots. It was one of the features that led me to the DX58SO board. Unfortunately, the board that I was/am interested in drops the 2nd x16 slot to x8 when multiple GPUs are installed.

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

that is what i was afraid of ... most manufacturers try to save money that way and the normal user will never notice but as soon as you get into high end gpu crunching you will notice it quickly

Guy: i am pretty sure on the psu of yours the lil AC/DC converter at the power in side is bad (i forgot the english name for it ) if it has warranty go switch the psu if not grab a multimeter and check for shorts there (if the converter is bad you will see a short on it instead of resistance)

those little buggers will trip the breaker if bad everythig after the switching side just trips the internal fuse without tripping the breaker

edit: I am running some ultra power supply in my amd 8 core system now since about 2 years 24/7 , i bought it at tiger direct when it was priced 19.99 for a 1600w psu due to wrong price in computer lol and it has been trusty since despite the fact that ultra is a crap manufacturer and i figured after 3 month it be dead . i originally just planned to use it for a couple days until my enermax shows up after i lost the old psu but i ended up just running that one till it died which it never did .

nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution :P

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

well i am sure you can fix the old psu fairly easy and also CM should just send you a new psu since it has been only a month or so

if you want it repaired you could also go to one of your local tv repair shops or ship it to someone you know fixes tv's etc and is willing to fix it for you

no need to waste a couple 100$ if a fix would be cheap

---

I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap