I've had a very good friend who commited suicide. She had 2 lovely children. She was also very very smart en plus had ADHD, she couldn't live with it...

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ADAH is treatable, but it takes a very skilled Psycologist(? never can spell it right) to get the meds right. I worked for the finest here in Stockton and they helped me get thru the lowest part of my life.
Bless friends and therapy.
I love life and would not consider suicide, but I have put my life in peril many times without a thought.

The one that stands out it is, a woman dropped her purse under a train and nobody would help her. I just hopped under the train and retrieved it for her.
Only later did it dawn on me, what if it had moved.

I am sure others have moments like that, especially in our youth.

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I have ADD, (no H); but, for years was treated with Ritalin, then Concerta. Medicare part D keeps changing what they will and will NOT cover for prescription drugs... Now, over 31 Medicare Part D Insurance companies no longer cover Concerta; and I don't know why. I told my Psychiatrist about this issue, and also stated that since I'm not working, and not going to school, what do I have in my life that needs special focus and concentration??? So, we stopped the Concerta, and now I don't take anything for my ADD. Though; if I ever do get a job, again, I will restart something for the ADD.

Chris, more commonly than linking ADHD to OCD; scientists have positively linked ADD/ADHD to Bi-Polar Disorder. (Which I was diagnosed with in 2007, and take daily medicine for...)

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We both needed the train and her ticket was in there, also all her cash.

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Chris, more commonly than linking ADHD to OCD; scientists have positively linked ADD/ADHD to Bi-Polar Disorder.

Ok, that used to be called Manic Depression in the past. I feel genuine compassion for anyone that suffers these problems.

I work with a gal who I think is manic-depressive. Some days she chatters a mile-a-minute, others she is somber and teary-eyed. Difficult to work with either version.

I've not been formally diagnosed, but I've long suspected I have a mild(!) case of ADD. I know I am a bit OCD, but I cycle between that and "Who cares". I sometimes joke that I am the "Odd Couple" - at times super-fussy Felix Unger, at times slovenly, laid-back Oscar Madison. Along with a touch of PTSD, I'm a mess, but I continue to function.

We all have our issues and conditions. But somehow, we find ways to cope, and get on with life.

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Chris, more commonly than linking ADHD to OCD; scientists have positively linked ADD/ADHD to Bi-Polar Disorder.

Ok, that used to be called Manic Depression in the past. I feel genuine compassion for anyone that suffers these problems.

When I worked for the DRs, the primary diagnosis drove what insurance companies would cover.
This was a long time ago. With all the insurance restrictions in place and more potent drugs, I am sure Drs have to more to balance to treat everything just right.

It seems you are in good hands Scott.

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Chris, more commonly than linking ADHD to OCD; scientists have positively linked ADD/ADHD to Bi-Polar Disorder.

Ok, that used to be called Manic Depression in the past. I feel genuine compassion for anyone that suffers these problems.

I work with a gal who I think is manic-depressive. Some days she chatters a mile-a-minute, others she is somber and teary-eyed. Difficult to work with either version.

I've not been formally diagnosed, but I've long suspected I have a mild(!) case of ADD. I know I am a bit OCD, but I cycle between that and "Who cares". I sometimes joke that I am the "Odd Couple" - at times super-fussy Felix Unger, at times slovenly, laid-back Oscar Madison. Along with a touch of PTSD, I'm a mess, but I continue to function.

We all have our issues and conditions. But somehow, we find ways to cope, and get on with life.

I have always been regimented even as a kid. I liked all my stuff neat and organized. I would lay out all my clothes before I went to bed so all I had to do was put them on when I woke up. The bad part was I had to share a room with my kid brother. What a disorganized hog he was:)
Im not so much a neat freak like I was when I was single, Getting married and having 3 kids cured that part. But I do still set out my next days clothes. Andf I do tend to do the same routine everyday both at home and at work.

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I read Allie's post about Kenzie. Damn Im depressed. I have lost a friend. Granted an internet friend, But a friend never the less. We over lapped as moderators for a spell. She gave me a clue on what to expect. She PMed me a panic button link that when you pressed it, A mushroom cloud appeared. When ever the pressure got to much, I just thought of that panic button, And silently thanked Kenzie:)

Im really at a loss of words. I had wonderd why she was posting less and less. Now we know. RIP KenzieB.

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I read Allie's post about Kenzie. Damn Im depressed. I have lost a friend. Granted an internet friend, But a friend never the less. We over lapped as moderators for a spell. She gave me a clue on what to expect. She PMed me a panic button link that when you pressed it, A mushroom cloud appeared. When ever the pressure got to much, I just thought of that panic button, And silently thanked Kenzie:)

Im really at a loss of words. I had wonderd why she was posting less and less. Now we know. RIP KenzieB.

Now is the time to press that button and press it once for me too please.

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I read Allie's post about Kenzie. Damn Im depressed. I have lost a friend. Granted an internet friend, But a friend never the less. We over lapped as moderators for a spell. She gave me a clue on what to expect. She PMed me a panic button link that when you pressed it, A mushroom cloud appeared. When ever the pressure got to much, I just thought of that panic button, And silently thanked Kenzie:)

Im really at a loss of words. I had wonderd why she was posting less and less. Now we know. RIP KenzieB.

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I think we are all a bit down this weekend after Allie's news. But as they say at funerals

We are not here to grieve, we are here to celebrate someones life.

That is so Chris, but damn it can be hard when 1's life has been full of constant funerals. :-(

Cheers.

I think we are all a bit down this weekend after Allie's news. But as they say at funerals

We are not here to grieve, we are here to celebrate someones life.

That is so Chris, but damn it can be hard when 1's life has been full of constant funerals. :-(

Cheers.

I agree with Chis and also with you Wiggo. Im 61 now,It seemed when I was a kid thats all I did was get tagged along to family members funerals. Then as a young adult it was just an occasional one. Now it seems to be going the other way again. Aunts, Uncles, Brother in laws. My father.

What really gets me is when a young person, either a child, teen, or young adult dies. They never had a chance to live a full life. And the thing is Ive have allways had that feeling, Even as a young lad.
I dont have any answers. But I do say live life like you only have one chance at it.

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So much agreed James.

The last 3 years I've seen so many people die, I'm really fed up with it. And the older you get, the more people around you die.

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The older I get the fewer people around me are left to die. :-(

Cheers.

I once wrote a volume of poetry that was called 'Carpe Momentum'.

I still go on that principle...

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My dad was an ambulance driver in World War 2. HE suffered PTSD And 60 years later he still jumped at every loud noise. He was also an emotional absent father.

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My dad was an ambulance driver in World War 2. HE suffered PTSD And 60 years later he still jumped at every loud noise. He was also an emotional absent father.

That happens sometimes. Too much emotional trauma, and you go cold, build a wall around yourself. If you don't let them get close to you, they can't hurt you. While it often works, it takes a heavy toll, and life isn't much fun.

And it's rough on kids, because they just can't understand why Daddy doesn't seem to love them........ even when he does.

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My dad was an ambulance driver in World War 2. HE suffered PTSD And 60 years later he still jumped at every loud noise. He was also an emotional absent father.

That happens sometimes. Too much emotional trauma, and you go cold, build a wall around yourself. If you don't let them get close to you, they can't hurt you. While it often works, it takes a heavy toll, and life isn't much fun.

And it's rough on kids, because they just can't understand why Daddy doesn't seem to love them........ even when he does.

I have to ask, Do returning veterans who seek counselling just get it, Or does the whole familly? I would think that a whole lot of potential problems could be avoided or lessend if the family had a group meeting and was told what to expect. Im not saying that they need to be told the not so nice details. But said parent saw and expierenced some things that humans should not have to.

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My dad was an ambulance driver in World War 2. HE suffered PTSD And 60 years later he still jumped at every loud noise. He was also an emotional absent father.

That happens sometimes. Too much emotional trauma, and you go cold, build a wall around yourself. If you don't let them get close to you, they can't hurt you. While it often works, it takes a heavy toll, and life isn't much fun.

And it's rough on kids, because they just can't understand why Daddy doesn't seem to love them........ even when he does.

I have to ask, Do returning veterans who seek counselling just get it, Or does the whole familly? I would think that a whole lot of potential problems could be avoided or lessend if the family had a group meeting and was told what to expect. Im not saying that they need to be told the not so nice details. But said parent saw and expierenced some things that humans should not have to.

It depends. At many Army and Marine Corps bases, they have regular briefings and classes for families of deployed troops, so they know what to expect when the troops come home. There are also couples and family programs for veterans with PTSD, but not as many as are needed. Not enough money, counsellors, or places to meet, but progress is being made ........

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Thanks Donald.

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