For the most part it is not the basic religions that are flawed but rather the direction religious leaders take in promoting their particular branch. The core teachings of Christianity if followed would make for a much better society, but I also believe the same could be said for most of the others.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

We could, and have done worse, not following the teachings of this man.

Christians 'pick and choose'. So? Every organization, and group does.

Really feel no need to obsess over Christian teachings, or the minutia of his life. Apparently you do.

There are many more important things.

Fully agree with you here.

Some atheists seem a little obsessed with pointing out all the perceived flaws of Christianity and how horrible some of the stories in the bible are. Yeah sure, what about it? Christianity has evolved over the past 2000 years, its just not the same thing anymore as it was 2000 years ago.

Does it still inspire some people to be horrible towards other people. Yeah, sure. It also creates a community of people and brings people closer together. And those horrible people? They would still be horrible even if Christianity didn't exist. Religion doesn't make you a horrible person, it just gives a horrible person a framework in which to be horrible. But trust me, there are dozens of other ways in which people can be horrible towards others.

I am reading this book now, and it is fascinating.

No Meek Messiah: Christianity's Lies, Laws and Legacy

It's ALL Religions.

However... As an Atheist:

What exactly does anyone have against Christianity?

Whether Jesus was 'divine', or not: What exactly about 'His' teachings, if 'He' was a Secular Ideologue, does one object to? The world would be a better place if they followed them.

Note: I am not speaking about those who profess to follow 'His' teachings, and commit evil.

I agree, it is all religions.
Christianity is not what most people think. Much of it was copied from previous religions, and all of the reported sayings of Jesus were not as peaceful as one would think. He even encouraged his followers to abandon their families for him. This is not the family oriented values that are taught today. Modern Christianity has evolved to not focus on anything violent or contradictory, but it is cherry picked from a history of violence, deceit, and outright fraud. If people were true Christians, they would be killing each other because one brand of Jesus warship was better than another brand of Jesus warship. I have recently seen shows about ancient history, where priests hired scientists to create mechanical devices for their parishes that would trick the patrons into believing that particular church was the site of miracles.

I enjoy learning the actual human history, and how different reality is from what is commonly perceived. What Christianity is today is nothing like what it started out to be. This holds true for other religions also, but I admit I am more knowledgeable about the roots of Christianity, so much of what I say here is about Christianity.

Steve

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Another good read
http://www.amazon.com/Dragons-Eden-Speculations-Evolution-Intelligence/dp/0345346297/ref=sr_1_1

Dr. Carl Sagan takes us on a great reading adventure, offering his vivid and startling insight into the brain of man and beast, the origin of human intelligence, the function of our most haunting legends--and their amazing links to recent discoveries.
"A history of the human brain from the big bang, fifteen billion years ago, to the day before yesterday...It's a delight."
THE NEW YORK TIMES

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I am reading this book now, and it is fascinating.

No Meek Messiah: Christianity's Lies, Laws and Legacy

Religious leaders generally spoon-feed their flock the few parts of the Bible that are not blatantly contradictory, nor evil, nor violent. The Bible is a very boring, very frightening, yet a very hilarious read. And the history of religious oppression is much more murderous than most people are aware. The book No Meek Messiah chronicles the cobbling of Christianity, its outrageous forgeries, and its immoral acts of torture, genocide, and obfuscation over the many centuries. The "virgin birth" tale was a forgery perpetrated 250 years before Jesus, even admitted by the Catholic Encyclopedia.
No Meek Messiah exposes that Jesus believed in Noah's Ark, Adam & Eve, Jonah living in a fish or whale, and Lot's wife turning into salt. (Historian Josephus, often cited by Christians as proof of the historicity of Jesus, also claims that he as actually seen the "pillar of salt" that Lot's wife turned into; "for I have seen it, and it remains at this day," Josephus lied.
Jesus even bought into the absurd notion (Jn 3:14) that a magical pole proffered by the OT (Num 21:9) could cure snakebites merely by gazing upon it.
Only a very selective reading of the Bible can adduce the eternal assertion that Jesus was a perfect and saintly figure. Meek Jesus boasted he was "greater than Solomon, and that he "came not to send peace, but a sword," and "to send fire on the earth."
Jesus desperately needs your praise, and advises savage whipping for disobedient slaves. These are scriptures never mentioned at the typical sermon or Sunday school. This is merely the tip of Jesus' "meek" iceberg.
No Meek Messiah exposes the plethora of forgeries perpetrated by Christian leaders over the centuries, showing how the corrupt Church gained massive power and wealth. The many murders and witch hunts are also exposed in great detail.

Steve

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Further confirmation that religion is only used to control/oppress...

The book in every Iranian home

"Small wonder the people of Iran comfort themselves with the poetry of Hafez. Even the mullahs cannot ban their own national poet."

If they could get away with it, they would!

Well Celttooth and myself are in discussions to form a new religion that does away with all those other religions (see the cafe for further details when they are available). ;-)

Cheers.

Hail BOOTICAN!!

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Well Celttooth and myself are in discussions to form a new religion that does away with all those other religions (see the cafe for further details when they are available). ;-)

Cheers.

Two per cent of Anglican priests don't believe in God, survey finds

As a prerequisite for the job of being a Church of England priest, it would seem not unreasonable to expect a belief in God to be fairly essential.

But this is not the case, according to a poll of Anglican clergy which found that as many as 16 per cent are unclear about God and two per cent think it is no more than a human construct.

Clergy were significantly more likely to hold unorthodox beliefs the older they were and the longer they had been in the ministry. Nearly 90 per cent of those ordained since 2011 believe in God compared with only 72 per cent of those who became priests in the 1960s, the research discovered.

I only go to church if there's a jumble sale on.

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I just do it for the Christmas Tree:)

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Change the word Christen/Christianity to Jewish/Judaism, in MANY Posts, and see, what it appears to me, to be.

+1
Search and replace as its called:)

My take on religion.

I believe what I want.
Everyone else believes what they want.
Nobody should try and convert anyone else.
Everyone gets along in peace.

No one set of religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is demonstrably better than any other. So, it all comes down to personal choice.

That's the perfect answer & one I agree with, unfortunately that answer is only for an ideal world.

That is one thing we do not have!

My take on religion.

I believe what I want.
Everyone else believes what they want.
Nobody should try and convert anyone else.
Everyone gets along in peace.

No one set of religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is demonstrably better than any other. So, it all comes down to personal choice.

As I stated, you seem fixated on Judaism. Why not choose Islamist/Islamism or Buddhist/Buddhism or others.

Many have brought Judaism into the thread, however, others have brought other religions into it...

...so again, why your fixation, after all, they are all as bad as each other.

You on the other hand, seem to be constantly objecting to having Christianity being shown in a bad light & when that happens, you bring up Judaism...

...As you can see issues, I'm beginning to see you as an anti-Semitic.

Am I wrong?

Still not seeing what you see. My last post is a condemnation of an Islamic country, hence the wording of the link.

Anyone speak out against Islam & they are deemed as racist. However, as my link shows & not only here but in the Middle East threads, Islam is being used by others to further their agenda.

Looking into those threads, you seem to have a fixation on Judaism.

Christians? Who cares? What is more offensive about them, than other Religions?

When I see the same amount of Anti-Jewish, Anti-Muslim, Anti-Hindu, Anti-Buddhist Posts: I will change my mind regarding the real motivation behind these posts.

Note: I do understand Anti-Semitic Posts will not be allowed in these Message boards. Why does this not apply to Anti-(fill-in the blank).

It is the same, and may lead to the same.

Check the thread title! As for my posts, it's been pretty obvious by now, that I regard all religions as bad as each other.

So, please enlighten us as to what hidden motivations you see in them.

Cameron quick to join coalition against IS but remains ominously quiet on this - all the while safeguarding Foreign Aid

Says it all really about religion!

Better than the backward, name calling, I am superior left, in some parts of Europe.

Ohh the hypocrisy. Calling me a name caller by calling me names.

Yes, its a very emotive story. I wonder why they weren't disposed of properly.

pure unadulterated greed.

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