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Message 1922679 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 8:16:45 UTC - in response to Message 1917477.  

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/government-warns-additional-james-webb-delays-exceeding-cost-cap/


GAO report – James Webb launch date “likely unachievable”:

According to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report submitted to Congress Wednesday, 28 February, the James Webb Space Telescope is in danger of slipping even further beyond its current March-June 2019 launch window due to ongoing issues with integration and testing operations and prime contractor optimism.

The significance of the finding, according to the GAO, is that the integration and testing period is “the phase in development where problems are most likely to be found and schedules tend to slip.”
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Message 1922785 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 21:11:30 UTC - in response to Message 1922679.  

Better safe than sorry. There won't be any first aid mission like with Hubble.
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Message 1922892 - Posted: 5 Mar 2018, 11:04:29 UTC

To me the JWST is another example of Big Science with Big Costs. Look to what other scientists have done with a radio telescope the size of a table. I dared to move the thread from SETI Science to Science (non SETI) as it was suggested from other users. Four Einstein@home volunteers share the merit of finding a radio quiet gamma-ray pulsar from the Fermi Gamma-ray Large Area Telescope as is detailed on the Einstein@home home page.
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Message 1922894 - Posted: 5 Mar 2018, 11:29:56 UTC

I'm sure Elon Musk could build one 3x as big 1/3 of the cost and still have it in orbit before this lot decide what to do..
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Message 1922895 - Posted: 5 Mar 2018, 11:38:26 UTC

I think that the JWST should be launched at Kourou by an Ariane 5 ESA launcher.
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Message 1926880 - Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 14:09:40 UTC

The launch is delayed to March 2020. Hopefully.
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Message 1926910 - Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 16:23:41 UTC - in response to Message 1926880.  

I'm not surprised about another delay. Hopefully this will be the final one. That sun shield issue sounds very tricky.
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Message 1928990 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 10:36:38 UTC - in response to Message 1926910.  

I'm not surprised about another delay. Hopefully this will be the final one. That sun shield issue sounds very tricky.


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Message 1941553 - Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 21:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 1928990.  

Bummer:-((

The Independent Review Board (IRB) established by NASA to assess progress on its James Webb Space Telescope has unanimously recommended that development on the world’s premier science observatory should continue; NASA has established a new launch date for Webb of March 30, 2021.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-completes-webb-telescope-review-commits-to-launch-in-early-2021
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Message 1941568 - Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 22:54:35 UTC - in response to Message 1941553.  

That is one big expensive complicated piece of origami, ;~)
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Message 1941578 - Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 23:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 1941553.  

In perusing the IRB paper, it sure looks like there's been some failure of supervision. The implication is made that supervisors have signed off on things that they didn't really check properly. Kind of reminds me of being handed a contract, and asked to initial pages, while not thoroughly reading the content. In the case of something like the James Webb telescope, with virtually zero room for error, that's unacceptable.
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Message 1941588 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 1:11:30 UTC - in response to Message 1941553.  

unacceptable. Who is in charge who is the chief scientist ?
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Message 1941592 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 1:23:47 UTC

It will fall apart from old age at this rate..!
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Message 1941595 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 1:39:47 UTC - in response to Message 1941592.  

It will fall apart from old age at this rate..!

It does make me wonder, and I haven't seen anything about this, but what about the on-board computers? With such extensive delays, they are getting out-dated.
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Message 1941597 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 1:43:41 UTC

My personal opinion is let a private company buy it "fix it" and let Space X launch it at a much lower cost..
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Message 1941602 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 2:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1941597.  

At this point, I think it's out of a private company's price range.
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Message 1945373 - Posted: 19 Jul 2018, 11:55:12 UTC

NASA has established a new launch date for Webb of March 30, 2021.


I hope this will be the final date. I have been looking forward to the day of launch like a kid. Makes me think of the nuclear fusion that is posponed over and over again..
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Message 1945377 - Posted: 19 Jul 2018, 12:23:21 UTC - in response to Message 1945373.  
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It's easy to criticize when you are on the outside looking in; I will do so anyway.

There is very poor reporting as what the problems are and why it will take so long to fix it. In the meantime a lot of people will be drawing nice fat salaries--apparently without any recriminations for the unacceptable delays and postponements. It may be time to clean house at NASA as they appear to be in danger of becoming part of the complacent civil servant army which has no performance review, work ethic nor profit motive.

Perhaps NASA should; or has, become just a contracting agency to the private sector.
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Message 1945471 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 0:53:53 UTC - in response to Message 1945401.  

IIRC one of the biggest problems is the funding was cut to near zero one year. People have to have food on the table. Not everyone could wait around a year to be brought back on the project.

There seem to be two big issues left. The first seems to be some sort of engineering and building screw up at NGAS on the propulsion system. That isn't being talked about. If they have identified it they will fix it.
The second seems to be the sun shield. Never flown before. Seems like they tried something and it didn't test okay. Rinse and Repeat. Does not give good confidence all the problems are out.

It seems to be an issue to unfold and unfurl things in space. Skylab, ISS, Light Sail, there is a list of failures of those kinds of operations. We don't have zero g test facility for those.
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Message 1945500 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 5:01:15 UTC

It seems to be an issue to unfold and unfurl things in space. Skylab, ISS, Light Sail, there is a list of failures of those kinds of operations. We don't have zero g test facility for those.

Things certainly behave differently in zero-g, and unlike astronaut training you can't try unfolding things like the Sun shield underwater
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