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Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
Hello All, I have seen several posts about this issue, but none of the solutions have made sense or worked for me. Here is my computer layout. Bonic 7.2.33 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3537U CPU @ 2.00GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] (4 processors) NVIDIA GeForce GT 735M (2048MB) driver: 331.82 OpenCL: 1.01 INTEL Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (1752MB) OpenCL: 1.02 Microsoft Windows 8.1 Core x64 Edition 12 Gig of RAM So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. I also want to note that i have my processor set to 99% (something i found on other posts) to make sure one core is available for the integrated HD 4000 to be able to run tasks / show video. Any advice or help? Thank you much! Joseph |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. On SETI@home, the applications that run on your GPU have no graphics, so the button is grayed out because there is nothing to show. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. The graphics display and the use of the graphics card for displaying the screen saver conflict. Therefore, the screen saver is disabled... BOINC WIKI |
Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
On SETI@home, the applications that run on your GPU have no graphics, so the button is grayed out because there is nothing to show. ok, so are you saying that if i only use the cpu to crunch away on SETI@home, it will show me the graphics? and having 2 graphics cards doesnt effect this? i assume from your response that it is how that task is "programmed" to run? Thanks for your quick reply! [/quote] |
Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. This response I don't quite comprehend. If I had 1 gpu, i would understand, but the screen saver works fine with E@H displaying its graphics during the screen saver. Even when that said task is using the 1 NVIDA GPU resource. Could you explain further please? Thanks! |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
On SETI@home, the applications that run on your GPU have no graphics, so the button is grayed out because there is nothing to show. I am saying that the executable for GPUs doesn't have a graphics portion built into it. However, the choice to run on only your CPU is up to you if you want to see the graphics. Your GPU, on the other hand, is far more capable of processing the work than your CPU is. and having 2 graphics cards doesnt effect this? Having two graphics cards has no bearing on the graphics executable. Though, as I mentioned above, GPUs are far more capable than CPUs, so if you were to combine crunching on both GPUs, you could increase the amount of work you do. i assume from your response that it is how that task is "programmed" to run? That's correct. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. Good to see you John. :-) |
Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
On SETI@home, the applications that run on your GPU have no graphics, so the button is grayed out because there is nothing to show. Well, Thank you again for your reply. Watching the graphics use to be one of my favorite things while doing homework and I always found it oddly relaxing... Yesterday I disabled GPU work and reset the project, and have not gotten a single SETI@home task since then... not quite sure whats up there. I also have had problems getting my Intel video card to work correctly, it was for a different task though, E@H, and it just hangs at 0.000% and windows prompts me that the driver crashed. Any suggestions there? or should I make a new Post under their page? Thanks much for the info you gave me! |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Yesterday I disabled GPU work and reset the project ... Nobody advised you to reset the project. To see the graphics you only need: Set 'Use CPU yes' (no need to disable GPU): http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project Wait to get tasks for CPU Wait (or force) some of CPU tasks to be 'Running' Select 'Running' SETI CPU task Use the button [Show Graphics] Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
So now that that is out of the way, when running a SETI@home task, the "Show Graphics" is grayed out. Right now my task is "Running (0.033 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU) SETI@home v7 7.00 (cuda50)" task I also have some others going like Milkyway@home and 3 Einstein@Home. The E@H graphics show fine, all 3 of them. I wrote it too fast. The use of the GPU for computation and for screen saver graphics conflicts. BOINC WIKI |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
The use of the GPU for computation and for screen saver graphics conflicts. This is only true for old GPUs And we don't know is the monitor connected to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 735M or to Intel HD Graphics 4000 Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
Yesterday I disabled GPU work and reset the project ... You are absolutly correct, No one on this fourm advised me to reset the project... What you do not know is that the first time I dl the Seti@Home project, it dl about 8 tasks too, i suspended all my other projects and forced S@H to run, but it would not. On other posts (i like to research, hense my First post) other people have had this problem, and the people there advised a project reset - instead of aborting them all... As for your other advice here, Use CPU is yes by default, i have already explored all those settings, and then I disabled GPU workto force a task that was CPU dependent. I am not new to computers, web pages, and program usage. I am however new to Windows 8.1. To answer your other question - Monitor = laptop screen - im not using HDMI to a monitor or tv and this laptop does not have a VGA output. The display on this laptop is set to run off of the HD 4000 by default. After 1 day i did finally get a task that was cpu relient, 3 of them actually and now they are showing graphics, it is quite unfortunate that i can not take advantage of my other card to crunch while displaying graphics, but i do have other projects that will use it and display graphics. Is there any more advice on the GPU work showing graphics? Thanks |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
Is there any more advice on the GPU work showing graphics? The SETI@home MultiBeam application for the GPU doesn't have a graphic part included. I'm not sure about the AstroPulse application. Gruß Gundolf |
Joseph Send message Joined: 27 Nov 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,815 RAC: 0 |
Is there any more advice on the GPU work showing graphics? Alright, thanks for your input. Seems I'll stop beating the bush on this subject, thanks all for your help and advice! I now understand the options and what is available :) |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
It's easy to check which apps do have graphics parts. Go to: .....\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ and look for .exe files with 'graphics' in the name, e.g.: setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe (the 'graphics' .exe files are 'companion' files, i.e. the computing part of the above is setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
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