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Message 1463696 - Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 21:00:38 UTC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537834/UKIPs-vile-Mandela-slave-rant-exposed-New-racism-storm-following-remarks-former-South-African-President-murdered-teenager-Stephen-Lawrence.html
How does a political party that has no racial agenda or racial policies
manage to acquire idiots like these in the article above?
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Message 1463898 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 11:38:43 UTC

I think dragging Mandela into this is a bit much, they only used him in the headline to hook people into reading it.
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Message 1463931 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 14:10:16 UTC

Amazing what bribery can do......

Cameron urges fracking opponents to "get on board"

"The prime minister said English local authorities would receive all the business rates collected from shale gas schemes - rather than the usual 50%."

So can we expect a reduction in council tax Del-boy?
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Message 1463951 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 15:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 1463931.  

Amazing what bribery can do......

Cameron urges fracking opponents to "get on board"

"The prime minister said English local authorities would receive all the business rates collected from shale gas schemes - rather than the usual 50%."

So can we expect a reduction in council tax Del-boy?


Lawrence Carter of Greenpeace added: "Having had their claims that fracking will bring down energy bills and create jobs thoroughly discredited, the government is now resorting to straight up bribery to sell their deeply unpopular fracking policy."

When and by whom? All studies and evidence concerning fracking from reputable sources has shown it to be safe, cheap, and economically sound. What more do they want? Blinkers off people!
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Message 1464095 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 23:07:59 UTC

Here's another problem. We spend millions on flood defenses, to protect property built, and shouldn't have been, on flood plains which then cause problems further down stream. When wht we should be doing is looking for solutions upstream. Like planting tree's which soak up rain faster than grassland, except of course the tree authoriy is being closed and according to the CAP it is illegal to pland more trees on farmland. Drowning in money: the untold story of the crazy public spending that makes flooding inevitable
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Message 1464257 - Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 10:18:57 UTC

He has a point. We humans do tend to interfere with the landscape far too much.
It's had millions of years to find a balance, we should work with it, not against it.
It's also symptomatic of another problem in politics, putting ministers in positions of power who don't know anything about the things they're in charge of.
Owen Paterson was shadow minister for transport then the shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland in opposition before becoming the SoS for NI then SoS for DEFRA in government, and his qualifications for these, he read history at Cambridge. How about putting a Geologist in charge Mr Cameron?
I know that DEFRA will be being run by the same collection of civil servants it always has been, but the minister is responsible for policy and direction, and it seems he doesn't know where he's going.
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Message 1465448 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014, 17:23:13 UTC

Further proof that those in Westminster are nothing but muppets!

ECL shortlist of bidders released

"This is nothing short of economic vandalism by a chancellor who does not want voters to know the truth about the East Coast line - it is a public sector success story," said Manuel Cortes, the TSSA's general secretary.

"It has been the cheapest franchise to run for the past five years and it has produced the greatest return to taxpayers - over £600m.""

So why privatise? This just proves that getting the right people into the right government departments actually works.

It would be nice if someone sensible, suggests that the government employees in the DOR train others in their techniques and eventually take over the other franchises.

Pretty soon, we will have a railway infrastructure to be proud of
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Message 1465542 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014, 21:34:38 UTC - in response to Message 1465509.  

Smoke in the mirrors, Chris. The Minister for Transport at that time (Beeching Report), would probably be behind bars, if such a thing were attempted now. The 'Rt Hon' had so many links to the road building industry, that I'm astonished that no-one did see the inside of a prison cell! Justifiably so. At the end of the day, it will be the likes of you and I, who will be expected to pay for and tolerate a dreadful service at a premium cost. British Rail had it's faults, but at least you could easily buy a ticket from one station to another station at the other end of the country - even, Heaven forbid, travel on a ferry to the Channel Isles.

This is the major problem with the Tories. If it works, sell it. If it doesn't work, sell it. To my mind, that makes the Tories no different to a certain gent with the surname of, Trotter. Off topic, nice going Trigger.
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Message 1465549 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014, 22:31:38 UTC - in response to Message 1465509.  

Pretty soon, we will have a railway infrastructure to be proud of

We had one under British Rail, inefficient though it was. Then politicians decided that the railways should make a profit rather than break even as a public service. All Beeching did was carry that policy out. Now we are spending millions reversing it all.


Think you need to get out of the Victorian age you seem to be stuck in.

Blasting me for living in the past? Stuff British Rail, I was talking about now! A Government Department known as Direct Operating Railway running their own railway and making a profit

A profit of £600m handed back to the taxpayer just from the East Coast Mainline alone.

So where are these millions being spent in reversing it all? All the rest are private franchises!

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Message 1465706 - Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 10:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 1465565.  

Hi Iona, glad to see I tempted you out, sorry about the static.


Quite a lot of static here and all over 50 years old.

The government can't afford to buy out all the private shareholders.


So why sell off one in their control especially as it's been making a profit every year since taken over?

How about asking your boss Nickerless Clegg for his views on this?
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Message 1465742 - Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 12:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 1465739.  

You deigned to pop into this thread and still cannot refrain from making snide comments. The static I was referring to was not yourself but the reference to a hatchet man from 51 years ago.

The question was why sell off the ECML. You've answered it sufficiently. That's good enough.

Unfortunately, I do not have the time to sit in front of a screen, see a comment I dislike, so search the net for answers.

I much rather make comments based on my own knowledge and experience. Should that knowledge be lacking or incorrect, have a peer correct me. You are not such a peer and never will be.
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Message 1466290 - Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 17:05:00 UTC

As you correctly stated on many an occasion, the UKIP is just a protest party. However, they are doing an excellent job of scaring all three main parties into looking more closely at their own policies.

As for constantly reminding all with examples like this: -

And your UKIP Councillors seem to court controversy everywhere they go.


This comes to mind: -

Ever heard of the phrase "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" ?


When examples like this is seen on a more regular basis than anything the UKIP does: -

Rennard accused of bringing the Lib-Dems into disrepute

"Ms Harris, who has quit the party, told the Observer the episode was a "classic Lib Dem fudge"."

"Nick Clegg should have kept an entirely neutral position in this matter, from beginning to end."

"On the one hand they say the report has cleared him; on the other hand he shouldn't do what the report says. He can't have it both ways."

"BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said Mr Clegg was facing the prospect of further division in the run-up to his party's spring conference and difficult European elections."

Without any outside help, the Lib-Dems are doing just brilliantly at alienating the very people they need to retain power at the next election.

Well done chaps. You'll go into the history books in cocking up the country even further for another five years in handing the country to the Tories/Labour. If that happens, will you still retain Nickerless Clegg as your leader?
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Message 1467328 - Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 16:20:17 UTC

Why British politics is entering a quagmire.....

Less Kissy-Kissy

"Some argue that a four-year fixed-term - which is the norm in many countries and the devolved assemblies in Wales and Northern Ireland - would fit in much better with the natural rhythm of British politics and give voters more opportunity to hold politicians to account for their mistakes."


"Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg pushed for five years for UK-wide elections, arguing it provided greater stability."

Really? Greater stability? Putting the electorate into a position where they give up on politics altogether? Nice one Nickerless, more time at the trough for you it seems.....

"What seems more likely is that we are in for 16 months of steadily escalating electioneering. Lucky us."

So instead of a month or so, we have to put up with their crap soundbites and false promises for 16 months!
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Message 1470445 - Posted: 29 Jan 2014, 20:43:52 UTC

With having to endure mindless bumbites over the next 16 months, those of us in the real world really do wonder at some of the stupid mindsets of those within our system.....

Iceland food case dropped by CPS

"Iceland founder and chief executive Malcolm Walker tweeted: "Delighted @cpsuk has agreed to drop the Kentish Town prosecution - though it's hardly the 'Iceland Foods case' as we knew nothing about it!"

"Mr Schwarz criticised the CPS for coming to a decision "so late... in the light of media exposure".

"The supermarket said: "The store in question is next door to a police station. Iceland staff did not call the police, who attended on their own initiative.

"Nor did we instigate the resulting prosecution, of which we had no knowledge until the media reports of it appeared yesterday evening."

Seems the tabloid press is achieving much more than the likes of Nickerless Clegg and his ilk.
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Message 1470683 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 10:48:01 UTC

I would raise questions with Iceland as to why they were throwing away apparently serviceable cheese, tomatoes and cakes in the first place.
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Message 1470705 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 13:14:53 UTC

It should be noted though that the date that you find on a lot of products is not actually a date that shows when it becomes dangerous to eat food. That is usually weeks, months or years after the date shown on the product. It does affect the taste of the food so thats why they are no longer sold by then.

Of course this does not apply to all things, certainly not stuff that is 'fresh' or perishables like uncanned vegetables or fruits. Still, its a huge waste of food and a shame really when there are so many people that can't afford food, while we are throwing it away.
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Message 1470726 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 14:57:58 UTC

One could make laws making it possible for supermarkets to donate their out of date food to food banks, or for stores to sell out of date food for reduced prices but with a clear warning that its out of date so buyer beware.
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Message 1470743 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 15:34:59 UTC

There are a few online stores (ApprovedFood.co.uk for example) that sell things past their best before date. I buy quite a lot of stuff from there.
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Message 1470747 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 15:41:35 UTC - in response to Message 1470737.  

I don't think you could make laws to that effect, but the principle is fine. Maybe something for the charities to look into, assuming of course that they don't already do something like this.

I just checked, apparently (at least in the Netherlands) its already in the law that supermarkets can sell food thats past its date, as long as they inform the consumer and they take over responsibility from the factory in case something goes wrong (doesn't apply to all food though).

Hmm, I wonder why its not more encouraged to sell this or give it charity. Because I know my supermarket never sells anything thats past its date, although it does give a 35% discount on products that are nearing their date.
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Message 1470758 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 15:55:37 UTC - in response to Message 1470721.  

Generally speaking most canned goods are good 25 years after canning date. Ask anyone who was in forces up till ~1970 they were still eating compo rations, when on exercise etc. that had WW2 packing date.
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