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Message 1530138 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 6:21:16 UTC

Geezy Peezy. How 'bout going to The Cern Web Site.

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Message 1530147 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 6:55:05 UTC

The CERN website is for Quantumphysics as the NASA website is for Astronomy, in other words, the only reliable source, thanx for the links guys:)
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Message 1530197 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 10:45:53 UTC

LHC is not active now, while welds are being redone. Next year it should be brought up to 14 TeV energy. Meanwhile it is simulated on my PC and the PCs of other people via the Test4Theory@home BOINC project.
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Message 1530244 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 14:43:03 UTC - in response to Message 1530138.  

Geezy Peezy. How 'bout going to The Cern Web Site.

Safety at LHC

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I did think of that :) but I thought an independent review of the safety of the science being done there would help settle any unease for those who might distrust the official line :) but thanks for the tip :)
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Message 1530307 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 18:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 1530244.  

Geezy Peezy. How 'bout going to The Cern Web Site.

Safety at LHC

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I did think of that :) but I thought an independent review of the safety of the science being done there would help settle any unease for those who might distrust the official line :) but thanks for the tip :)


So you must be under the impression that agencies lie? No way you can always trust everything they say. ;) haha
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Message 1530316 - Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 18:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 1530307.  

Geezy Peezy. How 'bout going to The Cern Web Site.

Safety at LHC

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I did think of that :) but I thought an independent review of the safety of the science being done there would help settle any unease for those who might distrust the official line :) but thanks for the tip :)


So you must be under the impression that agencies lie? No way you can always trust everything they say. ;) haha



A lot of politics involved as well:(
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Message 1530419 - Posted: 21 Jun 2014, 1:09:45 UTC - in response to Message 1530316.  
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Geezy Peezy. How 'bout going to The Cern Web Site.

Safety at LHC

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I did think of that :) but I thought an independent review of the safety of the science being done there would help settle any unease for those who might distrust the official line :) but thanks for the tip :)


So you must be under the impression that agencies lie? No way you can always trust everything they say. ;) haha



A lot of politics involved as well:(


+ 1 Hi Julie :)

Not "lie" as such James C :) just official lines are sometimes economical with the truth :)

To keep you going till I find the darn thing I've been looking for: From Wiki:

To address these concerns in the context of the LHC, CERN mandated a group of independent scientists to review these scenarios. In a report issued in 2003, they concluded that, like current particle experiments such as the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC), the LHC particle collisions pose no conceivable threat. A second review of the evidence commissioned by CERN was released in 2008. The report, prepared by a group of physicists affiliated to CERN but not involved in the LHC experiments, reaffirmed the safety of the LHC collisions in light of further research conducted since the 2003 assessment.

It was reviewed and endorsed by a CERN committee of 20 external scientists and by the Executive Committee of the Division of Particles & Fields of the American Physical Society, and was later published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Physics G by the UK Institute of Physics, which also endorsed its conclusions.

The report ruled out any doomsday scenario at the LHC, noting that the physical conditions and collision events which exist in the LHC, RHIC and other experiments occur naturally and routinely in the universe without hazardous consequences, including ultra-high-energy cosmic rays observed to impact Earth with energies far higher than those in any man-made collider.


The 2008 report (commissioned by CERN) could technically demonstrate elements of a conflict of interests - HOWEVER it was subjected to wide peer review, and it's findings were endorsed.
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Message 1530527 - Posted: 21 Jun 2014, 8:16:23 UTC - in response to Message 1530419.  

Anniet, do you really think that the ~12,000 scientists from over 100 countries that work at the LHC are all hiding the truth and we are in danger? LOL.
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Message 1530542 - Posted: 21 Jun 2014, 10:06:38 UTC - in response to Message 1530527.  
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Anniet, do you really think that the ~12,000 scientists from over 100 countries that work at the LHC are all hiding the truth and we are in danger? LOL.


He he he he he! No I don't Yo :) I have no worries about CERN at all, and that's NOT just because I'm not working there :) but quite a few people have. Where I can soothe worries, I do try... though it doesn't always work :/ and... whenever I say the words "I've been thinking..." I tend to find I'm suddenly alone in the room...

Late edit: See... it happened again :)
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Message 1531197 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 10:57:12 UTC

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Evidence found for the Higgs boson direct decay into fermions


For the first time, scientists from the CMS experiment on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN have succeeded in finding evidence for the direct decay of the Higgs boson into fermions. Previously, the Higgs particle could only be detected through its decay into bosons. "This is a major step forwards," explains Professor Vincenzo Chiochia from the University of Zurich's Physics Institute, whose group was involved in analyzing the data. "We now know that the Higgs particle can decay into both bosons and fermions, which means we can exclude certain theories predicting that the Higgs particle does not couple to fermions." As a group of elementary particles, fermions form the matter while bosons act as force carriers between fermions.


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Message 1531202 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 11:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 1531199.  

Now this sounds like a major step forward, but I do note the wording used

another strong indication that the particle discovered in 2012 behaves in the way the standard model of particle physics predicts

So can we define "indication" in this context before we all get too excited.



It's a sign, my friend, an omen! ;))
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Message 1531295 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 17:27:42 UTC

I tend to think there is no single theory of everything as surmised by Godel and that searching for one will continue to frustrate physicists.
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Message 1531314 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 18:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1531295.  

We are like blind men trying to describe an elephant.
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Message 1531318 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 18:29:28 UTC

+1 but the main thing is we're trying.
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Message 1531362 - Posted: 23 Jun 2014, 21:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 1531197.  
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Evidence found for the Higgs boson direct decay into fermions


Actually, that was found in late 2013. Now they have more data. That is the important news, not the finding.

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2014/06/cern-experiments-report-new-higgs-boson-measurements

In a paper published in the journal Nature Physics today, the CMS experiment at CERN reports new results on an important property of the Higgs particle, whose discovery was announced by the ATLAS and CMS experiments on 4 July 2012. The CMS result follows preliminary results from both experiments, which both reported strong evidence for the fermionic decay late in 2013.
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Message 1531730 - Posted: 25 Jun 2014, 1:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 1531362.  

Freaky Higgs Physics Suggests The Universe Shouldn't Exist

The universe shouldn't exist — at least according to a new theory.

Modeling of conditions soon after the Big Bang suggests the universe should have collapsed just microseconds after its explosive birth, the new study suggests.

Something to due with the inflation?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/24/higgs-physics-universe-exist_n_5525030.html
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Message 1531809 - Posted: 25 Jun 2014, 7:43:51 UTC

According to aerodynamics treatises the bumble bee should not be able to fly since it is too heavy and its wings are too short. But the bumble bee does not read the aerodynamics treatises so it flies. So does the universe.
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Message 1531904 - Posted: 25 Jun 2014, 16:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 1531809.  

According to aerodynamics treatises the bumble bee should not be able to fly since it is too heavy and its wings are too short. But the bumble bee does not read the aerodynamics treatises so it flies. So does the universe.
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It's now understood how bees generate lift... They clap their wings together at the top of each stroke to generate a vortex across the top of their wings.
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Message 1534296 - Posted: 1 Jul 2014, 4:36:56 UTC

Higgs boson spills secrets as LHC prepared for return

It's nearly time. After shutting down last year for vital repairs and upgrades, the Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its comeback.

Engineers at Cern in Geneva have begun cooling the huge machine to its operating temperature of -271.3C, which is colder than deep space.

And the accelerator system that supplies the LHC with its proton particle beams - which are smashed together to recreate the conditions just after the Big Bang - is up and running for the first time since 2012.

Teams are working to get the LHC - located in a circular tunnel beneath the French-Swiss border - back online by January 2015 and this time it will operate at its full energy of 14 trillion electron volts.


Particle physicists have learnt more about the Higgs boson's behaviour and how well it conforms to predictions. In a paper published last week in the journal Nature Physics, researchers outlined how they have watched the Higgs decay into the particles that make up matter (known as fermions), in addition to those that convey force (bosons), which had already been observed.
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Message 1534458 - Posted: 1 Jul 2014, 14:15:15 UTC

CERN and UNESCO celebrate the anniversary of the signature of the CERN Convention

Paris, 1 July 2014. Today, CERN and UNESCO are commemorating the signature of the CERN Convention at UNESCO’s Headquarters in Paris and thereby celebrating 60 years of science for peace. The Convention that led to the establishment of the European Organization for Nuclear Research in 1954 was signed on 1 July 1953 in Paris, under the auspices of UNESCO, by twelve founding Member States. The Convention entered into force on 29 September 1954, the official date of the Laboratory’s foundation. CERN was created with a view to relaunching fundamental research in Europe in the aftermath of the Second World War and 60 years on it has become one of the world’s most successful examples of scientific collaboration. For 60 years, CERN has brought together scientists from all around the globe and has provided society with numerous benefits through research, innovation and education.

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