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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years Hard to support SETI for more than 15 years when they are just coming up on their 15th Ani in April 2014. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30969 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years Not if you are a member of the Planetary Society. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years He said SETI, not Seti@Home. I, too, am a Charter Member of the Planetary Society. Ooooh, I need to renew my membership. Thanks for the nudge. (8{) Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years While he did say SETI and not SETI@home, he also complained about seeing issues more than once, suggesting to at least me, that he believed he was part of SETI@home longer than 15 years. If the two thoughts were unrelated, a separation of the two would have been nice. Otherwise I fail to see the reason in pointing out supporting SETI for 15+ years when complaining about server issues with SETI@home. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years Well, with a Join Date of October 99, he's been with the project longer than either of us, so I'm not gonna be fussy about his math. But after rereading his comments, I think he forgets that while the folks at Berkeley ARE smarter than the average Golden Bears, they have been constrained from the beginning by funding and available space. No matter how good an engineer you are, the installation has to fit within the available facilities and resources. Seti@Home, even housed at UC Berkeley, ain't Google or Amazon. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30969 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I have been supporting SETI for more than 15 years What all of you are forgetting is the date you quote is the date that the first work unit went out. Seti@Home existed for some considerable time before that. The Planetary Society had a fund raising drive for the seed money to get the project off the ground, pay for the telescope time so there was a first work unit to send out, pay the programmers to write the code, build the radio receiver, and the like. It funded the projects that came before Seti@Home, many of which are still ongoing at Berkeley. http://seti.berkeley.edu/ Those of us who are charter members should be displaying a SETI join date in 1980/1, a decade before Seti@home sent out the first work unit. If you care about SETI or space and have a few $ to spare I suggest you join The Planetary Society, but make your donation here first. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
What all of you are forgetting is the date you quote is the date that the first work unit went out. Seti@Home existed for some considerable time before that. But certainly you can't complain about server problems before the servers are considered "live"...? I still don't understand the reason in pointing out supporting SETI for 15+ years on the SETI@home site. |
Bjorn Munch Send message Joined: 27 Sep 13 Posts: 19 Credit: 3,619,401 RAC: 0 |
FWIW, my BOINC just got a new AstroPulse task for the first time since the outage. :-) Not that it had meny before that either, I just started two weeks ago and am now also running Rosetta@home. Still awaiting validation for two AP's that I finished before the outage. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
.. Lights and temp are just as important as the servers unless it is only designed to handle power while the servers shut down automatically. That is pretty much the case, only the servers don't shut down automatically. They are shut down manually. In the case of Seti@Home, that's a major necessity because the interplay of the various servers, tables, and scripts is so complex. Not that I see any point in responding to you, since I doubt you'll come back to see if there are any answers to your whine. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11411 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
It would be interesting to hear what broke in Marvin. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30969 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I see it took until the 15th to clear the power outage from the IST list. |
tbret Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 3380 Credit: 296,162,071 RAC: 40 |
It would be interesting to hear what broke in Marvin. Probably all the diodes down the left side. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
It would be interesting to hear what broke in Marvin. I'm so depressed. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Cheopis Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 156 Credit: 18,451,329 RAC: 0 |
It would be interesting to hear what broke in Marvin. Right. |
Cheopis Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 156 Credit: 18,451,329 RAC: 0 |
Language games aside, it would be interesting to know where the magic smoke was leaking from. As for Datacenter functionality in the face of a power outage? I strongly suspect that that datacenter is built on spec to be able to operate for <x> time in an outage. Since <x> is a real world measurement bounded by cost, <x> is going to be a modest number. Air conditioning systems for a facility are going to eat up a LOT of power generating capacity. At <y> % of remaining capacity on the system, the AC is probably powered down, and then after a few minutes, hardware is brought down. Cascading, controlled failure. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30969 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Language games aside, it would be interesting to know where the magic smoke was leaking from. There may well be another consideration that happened. Generator for the datacenter may well have been adequate, if just the datacenter went down. However with the large area affected, decisions may have been made that the power from the generator was more useful elsewhere. It took the campus over two weeks to place all power back on the utility mains! |
John Lesnak Send message Joined: 9 Jun 10 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,472,543 RAC: 0 |
I am just wondering why the area is so prone to power outages.[/img] |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
I am just wondering why the area is so prone to power outages. An abundance of thieves? http://berkeley.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/explosion-on-uc-berkeley-campus Explosion at UC Berkeley: Campus Evacuated, Minor Injuries, Fire, 20 Trapped in Elevators Claggy |
William Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,432,348 RAC: 0 |
I know very well the data center, as was one of the Project managers responsible for moving systems and servers around campus to the new installations end of 2005 and 2006 I believe - well they were new then, and the best data center I have seen. How ever, thieves of copper wire in the states? Thought that was only here in São Paulo (Brasil) that idiots did those things, and even with lines with current flowing. So every now and then, you read about a few chared bodies found in manhole access in the city, where they thnk they can just cut a few 15kv lines out (connected) and they will live to enjoy the spoils. Yea,the idiots around the world are all the same. Shame to hear about this in the Berkley área where there are suppose to be above average of educated population, and would consider thieves with a little over a above knowdlege of danger. |
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