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Message 1440136 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013, 6:34:13 UTC - in response to Message 1440082.  
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So what about this then......

EU says fight fire with fire

Just how many of those 28 nations will really agree with that?

However, if they do, just how many will hold back crucial intelligence because of their 'ivory tower' attitude?

Untill an attack is made and said country was shown to have had the intell to maybe stop it.

I dont like my counrty spying on its allies any more than you do. It is deplorible and heads should role, But they wont.

The US should get spanked very pubically over this.

But as they say two wrongs dont make a right.


Edit- I thought Interpol was that organisation?
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Message 1440203 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013, 12:43:19 UTC - in response to Message 1440082.  

So what about this then......

EU says fight fire with fire

Just how many of those 28 nations will really agree with that?

However, if they do, just how many will hold back crucial intelligence because of their 'ivory tower' attitude?

Spy back, and Spy Harder.
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Message 1449719 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 1:53:24 UTC - in response to Message 1440203.  

1 percent of the 58,000 files it had received from Snowden.

LONDON — Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger on Tuesday vigorously defended his decision to publish a series of articles based on the secret files leaked by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, telling a parliamentary committee that the right to continue pursuing the story goes to the heart of press freedoms and democracy in Britain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/guardian-editor-defends-publication-of-snowden-files/2013/12/03/8204608e-5c49-11e3-8d24-31c016b976b2_story.html?clsrd
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Message 1449787 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 5:14:00 UTC

Like with certain wikileak files, these files are very likely unlocked once the encryption code is released.

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Message 1452472 - Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 22:39:32 UTC

US & UK "spied" on virtual gaming world

Wonder how many just played instead of doing the jobs they were paid to do?
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Message 1452660 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 8:30:24 UTC - in response to Message 1452472.  

US & UK "spied" on virtual gaming world

Wonder how many just played instead of doing the jobs they were paid to do?


I bet they felt like real warriors too. Psuedo commadoes.
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Message 1452715 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 11:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 1452668.  

I'll tell you what, If I was the NSA going as far down the line as monitoring on-line games, I'd certainly be monitoring political forums as well. Lets face it we have had and do have, a number of people here with radical enough views to warrant some level of attention.


Great let's welcome it. Agree there are radicals & I suppose my views are seen that way, however, let's not forget people like you - they should be tagged extremists.

All that censorship you've been advocating. Labelling people all because they read the tabloids that you hate. Take yesterday, knocking the BBC.

What do you advocate? No media whatsoever and the peasantry listening to the "Gospel of St Taffy?"

Isn't that the hallmark of dictatorship?



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Message 1452720 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 11:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 1452668.  

It does seem a bit far fetched, but if true I can see why they are doing it. People can be as sarcastic or dismissive as much as they like, but does anyone really want to risk another 9/11 or 7/7 if it can be avoided? And I'll tell you what, If I was the NSA going as far down the line as monitoring on-line games, I'd certainly be monitoring political forums as well. Lets face it we have had and do have, a number of people here with radical enough views to warrant some level of attention.

So yeah, screw liberty, because we can't have another 9/11? I'm sorry, but that is unreasonable. Yeah, sucks that people die in terrorist attacks. But if thats going to cost me my privacy and to a larger extend my liberty then I think its safe to say the terrorist won. If the price of freedom is that once every 10 years a few people die in a terrorist attack then so be it. The odds of being hit by a car, dying of cancer, or dying of a heart attack are infinitely greater than getting involved in a terrorist attack.

Aside from that, I understand that you want intelligence agencies to look for terrorists, but this mass surveillance is just disproportional.
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Message 1452740 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 12:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 1452668.  
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... Virtual universe games draw millions of players from around the globe. The media reports allege US and UK spies spent years investigating online games including Second Life for potential terrorist activity. One leaked document published by the New York Times claims such video games could be used for recruitment or to conduct virtual weapons training.

It does seem a bit far fetched, but if true I can see why they are doing it. ...

So...

Really, are you advocating labeling people as terrorists for playing video games? Or for romping about in virtual worlds?

What about for when you dream?


Next step 1984-style thought-crime?


Note also how in today's language, those people campaigning for the good of other people and of our planet for everyone to enjoy our planet are nearly always now labeled as terrorists or pirates...


Strange world indeed...

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