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Message 1390129 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 15:05:57 UTC

An attempt to make a move for freedom?


Edward Snowden 'requests human rights groups meeting'

Fugitive US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden has requested a meeting with human rights groups in Moscow, Russian officials say. Mr Snowden wants to meet them later on Friday at Sheremetyevo airport, where he is thought to be staying. ...

... But even if a country accepted the American's application, getting there could prove difficult.

Last week, several European countries refused to allow the jet of Bolivian president Evo Morales to cross their airspace on its way back from Moscow - apparently because of suspicions that Edward Snowden was on board. ...

... the 30-year-old fugitive complained that the US government was waging an "unlawful campaign" to prevent him from securing asylum.

"This dangerous escalation represents a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America or my own personal security, but to the basic right shared by every living person to live free from persecution," ...



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Message 1397665 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 18:46:07 UTC - in response to Message 1390129.  

US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden thanks Russia for granting him asylum, but accuses the US of showing "no respect" for international law.


NSA spy leaks: Snowden thanks Russia for asylum
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Message 1397750 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 22:37:05 UTC - in response to Message 1397665.  

I do wonder what will happen when a 'Putin-refugee' finds his or her way to the US with Russian spying disclosure information.... I suspect that US organizations are just waiting for that opportunity.

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Message 1397807 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013, 6:03:54 UTC - in response to Message 1397750.  

I do wonder what will happen when a 'Putin-refugee' finds his or her way to the US with Russian spying disclosure information.... I suspect that US organizations are just waiting for that opportunity.



I can see it now. Some Government dweeb drooling all over him or herself when we have a Russian whistle blower.
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Message 1398207 - Posted: 3 Aug 2013, 2:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 1398166.  

We knew. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A Just far too many put their heads under the sand.

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Message 1401154 - Posted: 9 Aug 2013, 17:54:27 UTC

http://rt.com/news/journalist-thousands-snowden-documents-143/
Greenwald claims up to 20,000 Snowden documents are in his possession

Leaking one or two documents is whistle blowing.
20,000 is espionage.

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Message 1401209 - Posted: 9 Aug 2013, 20:13:18 UTC - in response to Message 1401154.  

espionage usually has a nation/state purchasing the information and the country typically not finding out about the leak much later. His leaks were straightforward. No other nation/state bought his secrets. He worked alone with no financial benefit from his theft


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Message 1401243 - Posted: 9 Aug 2013, 22:00:53 UTC - in response to Message 1401209.  

From wiki

Espionage is often part of an institutional effort by a government or commercial concern, however the term is generally associated with state spying on potential or actual enemies primarily for military purposes. Spying involving corporations is known as industrial espionage.

My highlight and along with my thinking.
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Message 1401281 - Posted: 10 Aug 2013, 1:41:41 UTC

SnowBlower and Phabulous Putin have SMACKDOWNED PhonyPotus and it is Beautiful.

Hustlin'Hussein trying to Speechify His Way Out of TOTAL FAILS.

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Message 1401300 - Posted: 10 Aug 2013, 2:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1401243.  
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http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/espionage wrote:
The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret. It can involve the analysis of diplomatic reports, publications, statistics, and broadcasts, as well as spying, a clandestine activity carried out by an individual or individuals working under secret identity to gather classified information on behalf of another entity or nation.

While this talks about only a single competing nation, giving it to all competing nations, public release, would also be covered.

Federal law prohibits espionage when it jeopardizes the national defense or benefits a foreign nation (18 U.S.C. § 793). Criminal espionage involves betraying U.S. government secrets to other nations.

Here in the plural, as I expected.

And from the law ...
(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it,
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Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

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Message 1401425 - Posted: 10 Aug 2013, 10:10:16 UTC

Snowden's E-Mail provided forced to shutdown

"In a closing note, Levison offered a warning about anyone doing business with U.S. tech companies:

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States."

Aw, they're not that bad.......
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Message 1404937 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 6:16:07 UTC

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10251337/Partner-of-Glenn-Greenwald-held-under-Terrorism-Act.html
Partner of Glenn Greenwald held under Terrorism Act
The partner of a Guardian journalist who wrote stories exposing mass American surveillance programmes was held for nine hours by police under the Terrorism Act.

David Miranda was passing through London's Heathrow Airport today on his way home to Rio de Janeiro.

Mr Miranda, who lives with the reporter Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who interviewed American whistleblower Edward Snowden, was stopped at 8am returning from a trip to Berlin.

The Guardian reported that Mr Miranda was questioned under schedule seven of the Terrorism Act 2000 which applies only at airports, ports and border areas, allowing officers to stop, search, question and detain individuals.

The 28-year-old was held for nine hours - the maximum the law allows before officers must release or formally arrest the individual - before being released without charge.

But the newspaper reported his electronic possessions including his mobile phone, laptop, camera, memory sticks, DVDs and games consoles were confiscated.


Only in the UK!

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Message 1405017 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 13:16:12 UTC

Detained for nine hours then released.

Not detained indefinitely on a military base in Cuba and water-boarded into confessing something he didn't do.

Sounds like the UK to me.
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Message 1405025 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 13:40:02 UTC

Not detained indefinitely on a military base in Cuba and water-boarded into confessing something he didn't do.


Sounds Like US BASHING AGAIN to me. By a Brit.

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Message 1405529 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 12:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 1405375.  
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Not to worry, Snowdon will be home soon.
The NSA is creating a whole history of Snowdon's gay lifestyle and will soon leak it to the Russians.
Given Putin's intolerance for everything other than "KGB Gay Love" they're counting on expulsion.

... And reality and any supposed legality be damned.


Note how we have for just one example Assange imprisoned for over a year without any reasonable charge let alone any conviction...


Orwell's 1984 is here already?

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Message 1405575 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 15:13:53 UTC - in response to Message 1405529.  

Orwell's 1984 is here already?

Been here since the day Usenet died.

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Message 1411837 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 15:26:51 UTC

Snowden talks operational details, people die ... as the jihadists have their way ...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/5/terrorists-tout-new-technology-thwarts-us-intellig/
Terrorists tout new encryption technology that thwarts U.S. intelligence

didn't take long once they had the operational details of how the system works ...

Terrorists and jihadists say they have a new tool to undercut American and Western intelligence — a mobile encryption software system that operates cell phone-to-cell phone, and works on even those devices that aren’t equipped with the technology.


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Message 1411843 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 15:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 1411840.  

When needed, is before you even know who is talking, not after the bomb explodes and you forensically trace it back to an individual and discover he has one of these phones.

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