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BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Many or most? Statistics to sustain this? Most dentists in the UK now only accept private patients because they can make a lot more money than dealing with NHS ones. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
No problem -- you English can be so sloppy with language <giggle> |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Uh OH! And her lawyer is pretty cocksure of himself, eh? “If the court finds that she didn’t waive, then it’s over, and if the court finds that she did and orders her to testify, then she goes to testify,†Taylor said, later, adding that there is “no danger under any circumstances of her going to jail.†"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Even more amusing is NPR reporting that they've talked to numerous Liberal politcal groups that took up to 3 years to get their status approved. So, we are looking once again at the teabaggers demanding to be first in line again. Oh and cut the IRS budget, too. So it will take even longer to get approval. I'm thinking that there are way to many well funded crybaby Teabaggers out there with nothing better to do than complain about gov't spending all the while collecting their Social Security check. Quite honestly this is just another scandal created to get media time by the nutbag... er teabaggers In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
with nothing better to do than complain about gov't spending ummmm thats a bit off kilter there Guy. First you claim you don't read what I say then quote me and go off on something less than a tagent because at least a tangent has a connection to what was previously stated. I didn't mention debt, I mentioned spending. Inferring debt from spending is off to say the least. The problem we have is grossly undertaxed wealthy people. Do we really need to go back through the quotes and trivia of how little they are actually taxes compared to their secretaries? The main thing Neocons and Teabaggers forget is that in the last 40 years or so the US population has just about tripled. With that expansion is new roads, technology and inflation among all the other facets that cause things to cost more and cost the gov't more to operate. Our big problem with debt really started with Reagan when he was convinced and somehow convinced a majority of Congress and the voting public that massive debt is ok as long as its trickle down economics debt. That the tax breaks and deregulation would somehow magically filter down to the common people. It did and we owe a crap load of money. As a famous comedian once stated. We owe debt to Reagan one we could never pay back. And he wasn't kidding. As I've stated before they could take an extra 10-15% of my earnings if they'd pay it down. Unfortunately, the wealthy just don't feel that need. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I think the biggest problem we have is in defining the wealthy. Is it by balance sheet? It is by P&L? What number? Same for the other classes. uber, wealthy, upper-middle, middle, lower-middle, working poor, destitute. Just how many classes are there? I think you will find those that think of themselves as uber and wealthy don't have much issue with higher taxes. The ones who think of themselves as upper-middle and middle have issues and are very vocal about it. I think the numbers people use to describe their situation are going to be very different than the numbers they use to describe others situations. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Interesting point regarding wealth, wealth definitions, and wealth perceptions. You can skip the front end ad after a few seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ehzfQ4hAQ |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
It's easier to dictate cutting spending than to dictate raising taxes. So why doesn't he do it? only when those cut in spending affect the poor or the raising affecting the upper class. HINT HINT: Deleware doesn't have a sales tax. but does rely on Income tax. do we really want to have a discussion on how a sales tax is regressive and a progressive income tax is actually quite fair to all. Do we? and who exactly is "he"? I recall the separation of powers gives Congress the power to levy taxes etc. So, why doesn't boehner advocate higher taxes? because his wealthy friends would stop paying for his reelection campaigns. That and the majority of goose stepping Neocons in the House refuse, enmasse,to discuss raising taxes. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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The problem we have is grossly undertaxed wealthy people. Do we really need to go back through the quotes and trivia of how little they are actually taxes compared to their secretaries? Richie Rich Pays Seven Figures +++ to The EyeIsn'tUS and Seven Figures Plus to Charities Per Anum and Secretary pays 3 Figures and 0 Figures, Respectively. Richie Rich Pays WAY OVER His/Her Fair Share and Secretary should Pay Richie Rich for using The Roads to get to and from work so She/He can pay their Piddlin' amounts. Bound For IT IT. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Interesting point regarding wealth, wealth definitions, and wealth perceptions. Ah, the myth of paper wealth. If they ever had to liquidate ... especially together ... |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Gary, if folks knew how relatively wealthy they are not, then they might respond to wealth distribution issues just a bit differently than they do. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Thanks for the video Barry, I'll go take some blood pressure medication now. And why people worship Reagan when the policies he started created those results befuddles me. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Gary, if folks knew how relatively wealthy they are not, then they might respond to wealth distribution issues just a bit differently than they do. They might also propose numbers for the cutoffs that more properly match the distribution as it exists. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Guy, take a couple of aspirin and a couple of double shots and sleep on it. If you had said Morsi ... |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Indeed, they might also propose rates for various ranges that might address that distribution. (I see it as a maldistribution, I realize many for various reasons do not). I'd note that before the Reagan revolution the distribution of wealth (and compensation) was quite a bit different. [/quote] They might also propose numbers for the cutoffs that more properly match the distribution as it exists. [/quote] |
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