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Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34382 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I think William forgot the first step: Maybe we are simply one step ahead. I`m almost certain he didn`t forget that. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66359 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I can only wait, when it's available someone will post a link, I'll figure it out from there or at least I should, I hope. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Is then there an easy way to see somewhere how Eric named the new SAHv7 apps here? Is there a file which I could D/L manually? I mean not just this overview: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php. How will be the entries in client_state.XML file? Example, like at SAH-beta: <name>setiathome_v7</name> ? Thanks. [EDIT: Or, if someone is running stock, please could you post the entry then?] * Best regards! :-) * Philip J. Fry, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. * |
Dingo Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 16,364,896 RAC: 1 |
This post http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71728&postid=1372741#1372741 is based on Windows machines, I presume as there are no standard Linux GPU apps so you will need to download and change all the app_info.xml I believe ?? Proud Founder and member of Have a look at my WebCam |
BetelgeuseFive Send message Joined: 6 Jul 99 Posts: 158 Credit: 17,117,787 RAC: 19 |
I am running both optimized CUDA multibeam and optimized CUDA astropulse. Is a stock CUDA astropulse application available or will I no longer be able to run astropulse on CUDA if I revert to stock ? Tom |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Is then there an easy way to see somewhere how Eric named the new SAHv7 apps here? Eric hasn't named anything yet. Until entries for "SETI@home v7" appear on the applications page you linked, nobody will be running stock, and nobody can predict exactly what entries will be placed in client_state.xml - please don't encourage premature speculation. |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
Sorry I keep forgetting we have AP too... There is a stock AP for NVidia app - it's not CUDA btw it's OpenCL. I've no idea what revision is currently going out as stock and if there are plans to update it. The installer will have the latest revision. IOW yes there is a stock app, but it may be an earlier version than what you are running now and installer will certainly have a newer version. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
This post http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71728&postid=1372741#1372741 is based on Windows machines, I presume as there are no standard Linux GPU apps so you will need to download and change all the app_info.xml I believe ?? made link clickable - highlight url and press url button above edit window for quick BBcode tagging. Urs is working on updated ATI apps and AFAIK is planning to release when we know what app_info.xml entries we need. IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. Yes, for Ati there should be new release packages incl. app_info, for NV/x41g you only need to update app_info.xml. We will try and provide guidance when V7 has been launched but our efforts are concentrating on the Windows installer. Basically you only need to add a v7 section but it needs the correct <name> entries among other things, which we'll only know AFTER Eric has released. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Philip J. Fry wrote: Is then there an easy way to see somewhere how Eric named the new SAHv7 apps here? Richard Haselgrove wrote: Eric hasn't named anything yet. You don't know my poor english? After installation of course, there is no other way to see online which app name is used, only to look in client_state.XML file? I meant, if the SAHv7 apps are installed if someone can tell the name which is used in the client_state.XML file. * Best regards! :-) * Philip J. Fry, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. * |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. Sortof. The V7 part was a working 'proof of concept'. It has rather inefficient implementation of the Autocorrelations, compared to x41zc, and overall zc is so much further along the refinement path I would recommend avoiding x41g for v7 use altogether. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. And how does x41z fare? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. There were various Bugfixes between x41z and x41zc to insure the apps found the correct signals. Claggy |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
And how does x41z fare? z was first commit to Berkeley of (X-branch). Changes after that were relatively minor, though nVidia did make some driver changes at or after 301.42 that caused Cuda 3.2 to snuff out some code, making the pulsefinding unstable on Kepler GPUs (applying to Cuda 3.2). Those problems in that build could reappear with new hardware/drivers, so it's deprecated. x41zb introduced a typo bug, so with that fixed in x41zc, x41zc will be the one to use all around (for the time being anyway). "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. Unfortunately the Linux community doesn't have much of a choice at present... A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. And the MAC community does have an app to test, but they have neglected to do any running on Seti Beta with v7 Wu's at all. (When I last checked the top 1000 odd hosts at Seti Beta) Claggy |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately the Linux community doesn't have much of a choice at present... All someone really needs to do there, as happened with Mac already [...well started anyway...] , is build it & report problems to me. Sadly I'm not setup for Linux development at this time (or Mac either), and have some personal time pressures. Typically, these guys come out into the sunlight as soon as things become urgent. Usually a day or so after public rollout. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately the Linux community doesn't have much of a choice at present... Vapourware? Until there is something a bad app might be better than no app at all. There is a differnce between something being 'viable' and 'recommended'. Ok, so you don't recommend it, but is it _viable_ ? A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Ok, so you don't recommend it, but is it _viable_ ? You'd have to ask someone that runs Linux that. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
Ok, so you don't recommend it, but is it _viable_ ? D'oh. Wonderful. Do I hear anybody going 'Me, me!' When I ask whether anybody has tried running Linux x41g on beta? Does anybody feel like checking beta for any Linux users who are doing that? @Dingo I'm afraid you are going to have the unique opportunity to Alpha x41g for v7 here on main. Do start a separate thread. [I'm pretty sure there are more Linux people running x41g right now, you just happen to be the one who asked the question] A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
...IIRC x41g is v7 ready. Oh shoot. What it hasn't got is 2/3 of an alphabet worth of improvements and some of them are accuracy and such. I'm looking at a (partial) version list to try and gauge the v7 implication. From my POV x41g will have a higher rate of inconclusives than x41zc but should be viable. I hope Jason can confirm. I tried putting both my old CUDA cards in my Lion Mac to see how that would work for the new Mac App, and the thing wouldn't even boot/post. It boots fine with the PC ATI 6850 and the Mac/PC NV 8800, boots fine with the PC 6850 and the PC GTS 250. But it won't boot/post at all with the Mac/PC 8800 and PC 250. Whut? Anyone have a clue about that? Seems awful strange to me. An easy, for me, solution would be an ATI Mac App to work with the 6850 :-) |
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