Now that v7 has rolled out..........

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Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20	Message 1373530 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 1373528. Coming back to: IF v7 rolls out..... Shouldn't this be AFTER? Or SINCE? ;-) Yeah, Mark could probably change the Thread title now..... Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired ID: 1373530 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1373534 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 1373530. Coming back to: IF v7 rolls out..... Shouldn't this be AFTER? Or SINCE? ;-) Yeah, Mark could probably change the Thread title now..... Oi, it was rally handy to refer to the 'IF' thread ;) A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1373534 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51511 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1373535 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:30:02 UTC - in response to Message 1373534. Coming back to: IF v7 rolls out..... Shouldn't this be AFTER? Or SINCE? ;-) Yeah, Mark could probably change the Thread title now..... Oi, it was rally handy to refer to the 'IF' thread ;) I could have said 'Now that v7 has rolled over us....'. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1373535 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51511 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1373538 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 15:37:06 UTC Last modified: 30 May 2013, 15:40:30 UTC Concerning the difficulty of downloading the new app files.... My download failures say 'cannot resolve host name'... And it's NOT on my end. Could this be a DNS server somewhere other than Seti that is coughing up a furball under the barrage of download attempts? Just wondering out loud. Maybe somebody familiar with pinging could check it out. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1373538 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1373568 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 16:39:32 UTC Just a reminder if you were running x41zc already and made changes to mbcuda.cfg e.g. to up priority, and if you went stock now, you need to edit the cfg files - they are supplied empty, there is a sample cfg you can copy/paste over. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1373568 ·

Horacio Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 536 Credit: 75,967,266 RAC: 0	Message 1373571 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 16:43:17 UTC With the hints given by William (thanks!!) Ive modified the app_info's and I'm running v7 on GPUs... TBH, for me it was easiest than going to stock and upgrading to BOINC 7 reverting all the customizations that I've already made for APs and for the "Abandoned tasks - Ongoing issue" on the 3 SETI hosts... Now, I'm just waiting for the CPU apps (and the app_info hints)... Sadly, there is no APs available so some CPUs are taking a little nap... But as there is not so much WUs available and as long as the GPUs are working the CPUs can rest as much as they want... LOL ID: 1373571 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1373586 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:10:59 UTC - in response to Message 1373576. Is it possible to download the new optimized apps somewhere without the installer, i.e. just a zip file with all needed files inside, like it was possible before? Some of us don't need installers, that do more than it's actually needed... Sure... but only for GPU apps. CUDA on Jason's site, OpenCL on Lunatics. All as separate packs. AFAIK they dont contain V7 aistubs yet, no ? you right. we need to change that. For separate packs it's quite trivial task. My site has updated the packages with new aistubs for x41zc users. http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php Cuda 4.2 (min driver 301.48)? Under Vista/Win7/8 x64, 301.48 does not exist, at least that I've ever seen as a WHQL or a Beta, I'm using 301.24 and I have access to 301.42 WHQL, though I like 301.24 just a bit better Myself. It's too bad the cpu app wasn't there, if it is then I just don't know where it's stashed at. What do the boinc startup messages say what cuda support you have on 301.42? A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1373586 ·

Horacio Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 536 Credit: 75,967,266 RAC: 0	Message 1373594 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:18:10 UTC I have 2 WUs that ended in a -9 result overflow, as other are nomal it may be a normal noisy WU or may be some setting that needs to be moded on my side... So, my question is can someone give me a hint on the adress at which I should look to download the WU to preserve them for future testing when the devs are not under the making intallers rush? ID: 1373594 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1373604 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:23:49 UTC - in response to Message 1373596. Last modified: 30 May 2013, 17:25:26 UTC Is it possible to download the new optimized apps somewhere without the installer, i.e. just a zip file with all needed files inside, like it was possible before? Some of us don't need installers, that do more than it's actually needed... Sure... but only for GPU apps. CUDA on Jason's site, OpenCL on Lunatics. All as separate packs. AFAIK they dont contain V7 aistubs yet, no ? you right. we need to change that. For separate packs it's quite trivial task. My site has updated the packages with new aistubs for x41zc users. http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php Cuda 4.2 (min driver 301.48)? Under Vista/Win7/8 x64, 301.48 does not exist, at least that I've ever seen as a WHQL or a Beta, I'm using 301.24 and I have access to 301.42 WHQL, though I like 301.24 just a bit better Myself. It's too bad the cpu app wasn't there, if it is then I just don't know where it's stashed at. What do the boinc startup messages say what cuda support you have on 301.42? Ok 301.24 says: 12 5/30/2013 10:02:24 AM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 580 (driver version 301.24, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 2.0, 1536MB, 1380MB available, 1581 GFLOPS peak) 13 5/30/2013 10:02:24 AM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 580 (driver version 301.24, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1536MB, 1380MB available, 1581 GFLOPS peak) I still wish I had the cpu app, since I'm half converted to v7 now that the gpu app info has been partly realigned to v7. I said I have 301.42, not that I am running 301.42, a simple misunderstanding. There you go you have 4.2 support then. edit: CPU apps will be out Monday, provided I don't get a nervous breakdown. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1373604 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51511 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1373609 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:26:00 UTC - in response to Message 1373538. Last modified: 30 May 2013, 17:27:00 UTC Concerning the difficulty of downloading the new app files.... My download failures say 'cannot resolve host name'... And it's NOT on my end. Could this be a DNS server somewhere other than Seti that is coughing up a furball under the barrage of download attempts? Just wondering out loud. Maybe somebody familiar with pinging could check it out. And more thoughts or info from Eric about the app download bottleneck? That's all that's really holding the kitties up here.... "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1373609 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22675 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 1373615 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:28:30 UTC Well first part of the operation went well and I got a pile of resent tasks (MB, destined for the GPUs on my dual GTX690 cruncher. Running in absolutly stock mode just now, so only one task per GPU. I'll wait for a bit before I try to sort out app_info.xml Then it decided to download "astropulse_6.04_windows__opencl_nvidia_100.exe" and that's stalled :-( I think I'll abandon downloading this app as I haven't got any APs to crunch just now.... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1373615 ·

Sakletare Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 132 Credit: 23,423,829 RAC: 0	Message 1373627 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1373604. William wrote: edit: CPU apps will be out Monday, provided I don't get a nervous breakdown. pats There, there. Your sanity is more important. (says someone that's running stock apps) ID: 1373627 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1373635 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1373624. Last modified: 30 May 2013, 17:42:55 UTC Oh I knew already, I was just pointing out, Arky should update that page to reflect 301.24, just to be more complete. We don't want that now, don't worry about Me. Thank you for pointing out that information currently going out to 150k active users is incorrect. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1373635 ·

Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0	Message 1373652 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:57:08 UTC OK... I have set up and am doing V7 WU's now , here is an excerpt from the event log: 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_x86_64 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Running under account Floyds 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 925 Processor [Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 3] 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Memory: 3.92 GB physical, 10.75 GB virtual 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Disk: 1.36 TB total, 433.24 GB free 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| Local time is UTC -5 hours 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 314.22, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 951MB available, 829 GFLOPS peak) 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| \| OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 314.22, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 951MB available, 829 GFLOPS peak) 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| SETI@home \| URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5953062; resource share 100 5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM \| SETI@home \| General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 17-May-2013 09:48:48) Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours , GPU is now over 30 min long . That sound about right ? ID: 1373652 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51511 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1373666 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:12:00 UTC Last modified: 30 May 2013, 18:16:36 UTC Was able to contact Eric. He said he would turn off Coral Cache on one of the download servers. I have to run off to work right now, but please keep an eye on things and post here if it helps the app download situation. Keep in mind you may not hit that particular download server on every attempt, so I would still expect some download failures. But hopefully it will help. Meow! "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1373666 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14687 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 1373667 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 1373652. An estimate is just an estimate, run a few tasks for real and see what happens. But they will take longer than before, yes. That's the whole purpose of this rollout - to study the WUs in greater detail. And more work == more time. ID: 1373667 ·

Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0	Message 1373669 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:16:21 UTC - in response to Message 1373667. An estimate is just an estimate, run a few tasks for real and see what happens. But they will take longer than before, yes. That's the whole purpose of this rollout - to study the WUs in greater detail. And more work == more time. That's ok... I LIKE it... LOL... I was just putting out the info for comparative purposes ,(for the GTX 460SE anyway ). ID: 1373669 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4	Message 1373673 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:18:55 UTC - in response to Message 1373653. Last modified: 30 May 2013, 18:25:25 UTC Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours , GPU is now over 30 min long . That sound about right ? That sounds about right, the 7.00 app includes support for AVX, and now uses the latest FFTW 3.3 dll too, which also gives a further speedup compared to the old FFTW 3.1.1 dll, Hosts with AVX support will get a big speedup, my i7-2600K @4.7GHz does Stock 7.00 CPU Wu's in ~2 to 2Â½ Hrs, while my C2D T8100 @2.1GHz is doing them in 6 Hrs. Claggy ID: 1373673 ·

[B^S] madmac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Feb 04 Posts: 1175 Credit: 4,754,897 RAC: 0	Message 1373683 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:30:58 UTC Last modified: 30 May 2013, 18:32:09 UTC This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58 ID: 1373683 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4	Message 1373687 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 1373683. Last modified: 30 May 2013, 18:42:01 UTC This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58 v7 Downloads will have the application name SETI@home v7 7.00, at present you are running Anonymous Platform with only v6 apps, so at present you are locked into only running v6 Wu's. For a CPU only host you don't need to a recent Boinc at all, you may sit tight on 6.10.58 Claggy ID: 1373687 ·

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