This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

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Grant
Darwin NT

This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

Just wait till Monday and crunch v6 resends in the meantime.

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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

Just wait till Monday and crunch v6 resends in the meantime.

TY

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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

I'd set NNT, complete your existing work first, report it, then either remove your app_info, and restart Boinc, you then reset the project and ask for work, make sure Setienhanced v7 is enabled in your Setiathome project preferences.

Or wait until Monday, then download and run the 0.41 Lunatics Installer.

Claggy

Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

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Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)

Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours ,
GPU is now over 30 min long .

That sound about right ?

That sounds about right, the 7.00 app includes support for AVX, and now uses the latest FFTW 3.3 dll too, which also gives a further speedup compared to the old FFTW 3.1.1 dll,
Hosts with AVX support will get a big speedup, my i7-2600K @4.7GHz does Stock 7.00 CPU Wu's in ~2 to 2½ Hrs, while my C2D T8100 @2.1GHz is doing them in 6 Hrs.

Claggy

If the V7 GPU app's are doing more Intensive work on the Wu's , is it maybe more needed to free up 1 core on cpu , to be more effective for GPU work ?
With the V6 apps , I was getting about the same results with one core free as I was without one free, as far as credit and time went anyway.

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Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)

You would need, as a minimum,

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll

I've deliberately not made them clickable, because I want casual readers to stop and think before downloading.

The file sizes are 484,352 and 1,049,920 bytes respectively. Internet Explorer seems to have a habit of truncating manual downloads: Chrome seems better.

If the V7 GPU app's are doing more Intensive work on the Wu's , is it maybe more needed to free up 1 core on cpu , to be more effective for GPU work ?
With the V6 apps , I was getting about the same results with one core free as I was without one free, as far as credit and time went anyway.

Cuda apps under V7 'shouldn't' be using more CPU. Juan tested this earlier & reported no difference with or without freeing CPU cores, with multiple tasks per GPU. The extra intensive work is taxing on the GPU memory system.

This extra search processing (Autocorrelations) will tend to limit the optimal number of tasks run simultaneously per GPU, to a lower figure, and run somewhat cooler. and of course more work takes longer ;)

No idea where Credits will settle.

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I found the first host getting ATI V7 work with unsupported drivers.
He is running Cat 11.11 SDK 2.5 while SDK 2.6 is required.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6766783

I have 2 wingmates so far that seem to be running sdk 2.5. Hope this isnt going to be the new enviroment variable thing! :)

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Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)

You would need, as a minimum,

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll

I've deliberately not made them clickable, because I want casual readers to stop and think before downloading.

The file sizes are 484,352 and 1,049,920 bytes respectively. Internet Explorer seems to have a habit of truncating manual downloads: Chrome seems better.

Thanks works fine it seems. DL with Chrome with no probs.

Cuda apps under V7 'shouldn't' be using more CPU. Juan tested this earlier & reported no difference with or without freeing CPU cores, with multiple tasks per GPU. The extra intensive work is taxing on the GPU memory system.

Just a remainder i only have INTEL CPUs and Fermis/Kepplers GPUs.

And in all the test i mantain only 2 WU crunching (1 or 2 Vlars at the same time on each GPU)at a time to avoid video lag.

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Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)

You would need, as a minimum,

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll

I've deliberately not made them clickable, because I want casual readers to stop and think before downloading.

The file sizes are 484,352 and 1,049,920 bytes respectively. Internet Explorer seems to have a habit of truncating manual downloads: Chrome seems better.

Thanks works fine it seems. DL with Chrome with no probs.

In response to an enquiry by PM: the stock CPU app, as usual, can display eye candy or a screensaver. For that, you need

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe

As most of my machines have 7 or 8 day caches with 100 tasks, & are downloading resends, I don't expect to run out of work before the next lunatics release.
Perhaps some of my faster machines will run out & flip over to PrimeGrid for a bit, but that is OK with me. Keeps the details page on my machines from getting junked up with stock app info.

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Well, my first v7 has started. Estimated 15h 15m. We'll see.
I went and edited my app_info.xml, included the new app by hand.

30-May-2013 22:12:30 [SETI@home] Starting task 27no10ad.29489.21917.6.12.77_1 using setiathome_v7 version 700 in slot 0

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I just noticed something that I don't remember seeing on the V6 WU's for GPU.

On PC ( #1 ) 5953062 the GPU wu is showing " Running ( 0.0236 CPU's + 1 NVidia GPU )" CUDA 32 WU

On PC ( #2 ) 6994641 the GPU wu is showing " Running ( 0.00579 CPU's + 1 NVidia GPU )" CUDA 42 WU

The difference in CPU usage... Can this be because of the different Video cards ?

#1 has the GTX 460SE and #2 has the GT 430 .

OR
because of the different Cuda apps being used at this time ?

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Have now taken to manually aborting:
-AP WUs on non AVX machines
-v7 cuda50 WUs on all machines
-v7 cuda23 WUs on all GTX580 based machines

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Have now taken to manually aborting:
-AP WUs on non AVX machines
-v7 cuda50 WUs on all machines
-v7 cuda23 WUs on all GTX580 based machines

Why?