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Message 1753740 - Posted: 3 Jan 2016, 22:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 1753281.  

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Message 1753742 - Posted: 3 Jan 2016, 23:02:45 UTC - in response to Message 1753281.  

Okay folks, hope everyone had a good holiday. I've just experienced at first hand just what the staff in hosptials have to endure. They deserve my utmost respect & gratitue.

Have only just returned home after spending this week in hospital recovering from a mild stroke.

Sorry to hear that, Sirius. I hope you have a speedy recovery.
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Message 1753748 - Posted: 3 Jan 2016, 23:30:07 UTC - in response to Message 1753568.  

Okay folks, hope everyone had a good holiday. I've just experienced at first hand just what the staff in hosptials have to endure. They deserve my utmost respect & gratitue.

Have only just returned home after spending this week in hospital recovering from a mild stroke.

I'm sorry to hear that Sirius and I guess that your heavy vehicle license has now been suspended as well. :-(

Cheers.

Thanks folks. From what I've been told, have to wait 6 months. By then I hit 60, so think it's time to call it a day.

Sirius:) Today all hospitals know how to treat patiences with stroke.
My mother for one, 86 years old, that got one 2 years ago and now is recovering.

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Message 1753813 - Posted: 4 Jan 2016, 8:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 1753737.  

Okay folks, hope everyone had a good holiday. I've just experienced at first hand just what the staff in hosptials have to endure. They deserve my utmost respect & gratitue.

Have only just returned home after spending this week in hospital recovering from a mild stroke.

I'm sorry to hear that Sirius and I guess that your heavy vehicle license has now been suspended as well. :-(

Cheers.

Thanks folks. From what I've been told, have to wait 6 months. By then I hit 60, so think it's time to call it a day.

As a member of hospital staff, thank you :-) Best wishes for a full recovery.

Thank you. I meant what I said. I have an advantage in that I worked at the PDH for 2 years in the 80's. What they have to endure, I could not as my patience is not up to scratch as I don't tolerate fools lightly.

Did have a mishap on my way home from the hospital, I had 2 bags, one of foodstuff & the 2nd of clothes. In the 2nd I had my discharge letter with instructions & a perscription, which was stolen on the bus & didn't realise until I got home. fortunately a close friend gave advice which I just took.

With it all being electronic these days, the surgery reprinted the letter & I have to return at 11:20 to see GP about the medication.

I have been told that I was a very lucky person in that many suffer much worse. I believe it as this has shaken me up immensely, so whatever the medics tell me, I'm obeying to the letter.

To all the other well wishers, many thanks.

On a sidenote, am finding it awkward in using a mouse, it's funny in that I'm left-handed but have always use my right for that :-)

I have a stress ball to practice on.
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Message 1755583 - Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 15:52:52 UTC - in response to Message 1755577.  

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Message 1757195 - Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 20:47:37 UTC

I think it's time for this fool to be dismissed as Health Secretary.

Top stroke doctors accuse Hunt of manipulation

I was admitted during a weekday but spent all week in. Saw the same doctors & nurses on duty as I did during the week.

Think DC needs one of his dyno rods for his health secretary.
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Message 1757860 - Posted: 21 Jan 2016, 16:03:51 UTC

WOW, I think those strokes made me lose my marbles :-)

Received a letter around lunchtime from the community dietitian with several booklets. It also stated that they will be contacting me anytime between 14:30 & 15:30 with the call lasting 30 minutes. They called at 15:05 & it ended at 15:35.

At the end of the call, I read some of the booklets after she imparted some info that I found hard to believe.

Looking at the booklets, I thought "WTH" much of those foods are fattening (okay I know I need to get my weight back up) but isn't that being duplicious as the hospitals & health nazis have been warning of obesity?
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Message 1761430 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 23:46:05 UTC - in response to Message 1757195.  

I think it's time for this fool to be dismissed as Health Secretary.

Top stroke doctors accuse Hunt of manipulation

I was admitted during a weekday but spent all week in. Saw the same doctors & nurses on duty as I did during the week.

Think DC needs one of his dyno rods for his health secretary.

I'm quoting my own post...."just my famous irony" at play here, or am I really that stupid in thinking politicians really know what they're doing?

Hunt "informing the UK that he is a top medical practioner"

Too late for Dyno Rod.
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Message 1765491 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 15:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 1765406.  
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111? No, more like 118 118

Today I read this.
Executives in the Region Gävleborg calls for 4.5 million crowns reduction of ambulance services. The same people have now participated in the "boss days" with jugglers and comedians which cost 2.4 million crowns!

btw. The girl in the pic with a "tiara" have to come from Sweden:)
Thats a typical custom here to wear that for Christmas.
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Message 1769452 - Posted: 4 Mar 2016, 9:45:37 UTC

Disgusting, the bean counters at work again. The biggest petition in parliamentary history...

Meningitis B call rejected

..BUT got the money to bomb places like Syria & then provide benefits for the refugees from that bombing.
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Message 1772508 - Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 22:28:46 UTC - in response to Message 1769452.  

Disgusting, the bean counters at work again. The biggest petition in parliamentary history...

Meningitis B call rejected

This saddens me beyond words. Nineteen years ago there was no vaccine to save my son from this terrible, terrible disease. He was three, and under this disgraceful decision, he would still die today, or incur tens of thousands of pounds (or more) in medical expenses to survive.
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Message 1774828 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 21:35:14 UTC

Despicable. After years of study & making it to a hospital, to get treated like this...

No protection under law

...Hunt don't care he's a member of BUPA
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Message 1774878 - Posted: 29 Mar 2016, 2:46:42 UTC

You can't whinge now Sirius you had your election and voted the Tory's in .

Expect to lose a lot of your Universal health care system and you will end up with the American crap system of sanctioned genocide of the poor and average Joe
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Message 1775285 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 13:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 1774878.  

You can't whinge now Sirius you had your election and voted the Tory's in .

Expect to lose a lot of your Universal health care system and you will end up with the American crap system of sanctioned genocide of the poor and average Joe

It's coming & sooner than many expect :-(

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Message 1775328 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 16:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 1774878.  

American crap system of sanctioned genocide of the poor and average Joe

Only in Texas
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/31/texas-hospice-owner-ordered-nurses-to-overdose-patients-fbi-says.html?intcmp=hplnws#
The owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits, according to an FBI affidavit.

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Message 1775329 - Posted: 31 Mar 2016, 16:19:41 UTC - in response to Message 1775328.  

American crap system of sanctioned genocide of the poor and average Joe

Only in Texas
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/31/texas-hospice-owner-ordered-nurses-to-overdose-patients-fbi-says.html?intcmp=hplnws#
The owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits, according to an FBI affidavit.

Known here as "DNR"
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Message 1782658 - Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 12:03:25 UTC

Something you won't see spoken by politicians or the media.

Dr Ravi Jayaram 17th April 2016

"I have kept quiet on here until now about the junior doctor's strike but the time has come to stand up and say what needs to be said. Apologies in advance for the long essay, I will try to keep it simple. This is aimed at those of you who are not medical; those who are will know exactly what I am talking about.

If you simply believe what is said in the media, you might think that this is all about Saturday pay or even that junior doctors don't want to work at nights or weekends. It is depressing to overhear people express these views but hardly surprising given the public coverage of the issue.

So what exactly is going on? A junior doctor is any doctor who is not a GP or consultant who is in training to be one of those two. Most doctors spend 8-9 years as a junior but many stay as juniors for longer, especially female doctors who may take time out for families, academics who take time out to do research and doctors in specialities where training in two specialties is needed such as paediatric intensive care. I myself spent 14 years as a junior doctor so was still one aged 37. Junior doctors are the doctors you will see first when you go to A&E or get admitted to a ward and will be responsible for delivering your day to day care when you are in hospital. Junior doctors are covering the hospital 24/7, 365 days a year and always have done. And contrary to what you might believe from the papers, they don't have any choice in the matter, their contracts say they have no choice in working evenings, nights and weekends.

So what is all the fuss about? Well it is about being able to be safe. When I was a JD, I used to work ridiculous hours. In one job in my 1st year, every 3rd weekend I would go to work at 9am on a Saturday and leave at 5pm on a Tuesday. That was 80 hours in a row with sleep grabbed when the chances arose. It was dangerous and dehumanising and the even crazier thing was that I was actually paid at a lower rate for the unsocial hours than basic pay (1/3 of basic in fact).

Fortunately my generation of juniors was amongst the last to have to do that and things slowly changed. Now junior doctors get paid at a higher rate than basic for unsocial hours, that rate determined by the intensity of work in that specialty e.g. emergency room work would be a higher rate than dermatology. Standard hours are defined as 7am-7pm Monday to Friday (which are not exactly standard working hours for most people) and there are rules on the maximum number of hours per week and consecutive hours that can be worked. There are also safeguards in place so that if employers are consistently making juniors work beyond these rules, they can be fined; hence there is a disincentive for employers to overwork junior doctors, therefore they are not tired and dangerous 1990-style.

But work done outside standard hours is NOT overtime. These hours are contracted hours and have to be worked and, quite rightly, are paid at a higher rate than basic pay. In specialties where there is not a lot of emergency work, the majority of work is in routine hours, but areas like A&E, paediatrics, intensive care have a lot of work done in unsocial hours and attract a higher rate of pay for those hours. I stress again that this is not overtime; overtime is work done in addition to contracted hours. All doctors and nurses do overtime - staying late to complete work and ensure patient safety and very rarely if ever does anyone claim for these overtime hours.

But Jeremy Hunt wants to change the contract for junior doctors, his logic being that doing this will help to deliver the “7-day NHS”. Nobody is really sure what exactly this means. It may mean that he wants routine services such as outpatient clinics and planned surgery or scans for non-urgent problems to take place on Saturdays and Sundays, not just Monday to Friday. If this is the case then changing the juniors’ contract is not going to make this happen as without doing the same for (deep breath) consultants, nurses, porters, receptionists, pharmacists, operating department assistants, radiographers, physiotherapists and many other staff these things won’t be able to happen at weekends.

The 7-day NHS may refer to emergency work. If this is the case then it already exists. Junior doctors are already there at night and at weekends. The proposed contract changes are not going to change the numbers who are there as there is no plan to increase the total number of junior doctors. What is proposed is that the definition of normal time changes from 7am-7pm to 7am-10pm Monday to Friday and from 7am to somewhere between 5pm and 10pm on Saturday. This means that employers could make junior doctors work more unsocial hours as they have redefined as standard hours. It is true that the basic rate of pay for standard hours will be increased by 13%, which sounds great doesn’t it? Except that for the emergency specialties as above that routinely have a lot of evening, night and weekend work, what is currently paid at an enhanced rate will be paid at standard rate; even at 13% higher for standard rate, total pay for junior doctors in these specialties will drop considerably, maybe by as much 30% for some. Doesn’t sound so good now really.

And, of course, there will be the same number of doctors but spread over 7 days rather than 5 so there will be weekdays where there will be fewer juniors than there are now. A great analogy I heard was to imagine that you have a 10-inch pizza cut into 5 slices. You decide that 5 slices isn’t going to fill you up so your mum cuts the same pizza into 7 slices and tells you that you’ll be full with that. But she won’t get you a bigger pizza.

So same number of junior doctors spread more thinly is going to reduce cover on weekdays as compared to now. And weekdays are when not only emergency work but also routine planned work that also needs input from junior doctors takes place so this will have a detrimental effect on waiting lists for clinics and operations as well.

Junior doctors with children will be hit particularly hard, especially those who have junior doctors spouses, as more unsocial hours will be worked. Childcare is generally difficult to get hold of outside of 8-5 on weekdays; the department of health have actually said (with no hint of irony) that in this situation, family members who are non-medical and don’t work evenings or weekends should be asked to provide child care to get over this problem! It is very likely that couples could go several days without actually seeing each other or their families if rotas do not coincide.

But what about the increased deaths at weekends we have been hearing about? Actually, the statistics have been completely misrepresented and even the authors of the research paper that gets quoted regularly have pointed this out. The statistic was that if you are admitted to hospital on a weekend, your risk of dying within 30 days of that admission was higher than if admitted midweek. Your risk of dying is very low anyway and that very low risk is marginally higher (but still very low) if admitted on weekends. This is probably because admissions to hospital in the week consist of not only sick people but also well people coming in for routine things, whereas at weekends you would tend to avoid hospital unless you were desperately unwell and most likely would leave things as long as possible and so be sicker when you got there. Interestingly they also showed that if you were already in hospital on a weekend, having been admitted in the week, your risk of death within 30 days was lower than it would have been. Either way, there is no evidence of cause and effect in terms of numbers of junior doctors around at weekends. The so-called weekend effect has also been seen in the USA and Australia too so it isn’t peculiar to state-funded health as opposed to private insurance-based systems.

Interestingly the misrepresentation of this study has led to ill people actually avoiding hospitals on weekends and delaying presenting till Monday with potentially devastating consequences. Have a look online for the ‪#‎hunteffect‬. Scary.

Another worrying thing about the proposed new contract is that it takes away the safeguards against juniors being made to work ridiculously long hours. Whereas currently there is a mechanism that makes it in the interests of an employer to ensure the hours are not exceeded, the new contract removes these safeguards. It does suggest that each hospital trust has a “guardian” to whom junior doctors can flag up concerns about their hours but this “guardian” will also be a senior member of the trust who has no obligation to actually do anything about these concerns. I think back to my days as an exhausted junior doctor and it scares me to think that such unsafe and dangerous hours could make a return.

The pay scales are also changing. There has been automatic pay progression as you gain experience and seniority until now. The new system means that there are fewer points where pay is raised. This is not necessarily a bad thing as it can be argued that you shouldn’t get a pay rise unless you deserve it. But remember that over 10 years can be spent as a junior doctor in which time you are likely to acquire husbands, wives, children and mortgages; many existing junior doctors have made their financial plans for the next few years based on the expectation that there will be pay progression. One part-time junior doctor who has worked with me told me that if the new contract came in she would no longer be able to pay her mortgage and would have to sell her home. Bear in mind that these are young people who have spent at least 5 years at university accruing debts from both student loans for living expenses and now also £45000 in tuition fees before even starting work. The new pay scales do not reflect the levels of responsibility taken by junior doctors at different stages of their training at all which makes no sense whatsoever. For female doctors who are likely to take time out to have children and then return to work part-time, the consequences on their income will be huge. The department of health actually acknowledged that women would be hit unfairly but suggested that this had to be accepted as an unfortunate consequence.

The BMA junior doctors committee walked out of talks with the department of health because the DH’s definition of negotiation was that they would reserve the right to do what they wanted if they didn’t agree with what the committee was suggested. In other words, they did not want to negotiate so there was not point in the BMA trying. This is why industrial action was proposed because there was no other way to try to get Jeremy Hunt to talk. Sadly, even when negotiations restarted, he could not see that without a bigger pizza nothing was going to improve patient care and in fact things would be worse and so talks stopped. He has now said he is imposing the contract and that is that, he won’t talk anymore. When a strike ballot (of, let’s face it, intelligent reasonable and educated people) has a 75% turnout and 98% vote in favour, it is clear that there is a serious problem with the DH’s thought processes and they need to listen. It is highly improbable that a small bunch of radical lefties have brainwashed 50000 intelligent doctors who have been trained to analyse information and draw conclusions, much as the press like that idea.

If you have read this far, please take it on board and share with your friends. I’ve tried to keep it simple (even though it may not seem that way!) The public is not getting the full story from the TV and newspapers and if this contract is imposed then we will all be on the receiving end of the consequences eventually.

I’ll stop there for now but will write some more about what will happen on the days of the full strike (April 26th and 27th) and why you should not have to worry about what may happen on those days if you or your family have to come to hospital."
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