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Message 1358623 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 18:14:57 UTC - in response to Message 1358595.  

Once you teach the populace to ignore gun laws, you can take them away.

And once you have done that, you can trace your history to Hitler.


This is not rhetoric. This, my friends, is history.

Take the guns, then the country, then their totalitairy.
I have some history with this.


Your history is wrong.
Do you ever even try to confirm anything Mark? Hitler did NOT take all of the guns away from the people.


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Message 1358638 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 18:59:54 UTC - in response to Message 1358623.  

Once you teach the populace to ignore gun laws, you can take them away.

And once you have done that, you can trace your history to Hitler.


This is not rhetoric. This, my friends, is history.

Take the guns, then the country, then their totalitairy.
I have some history with this.


Your history is wrong.
Do you ever even try to confirm anything Mark? Hitler did NOT take all of the guns away from the people.

Source please, Mark.
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Message 1358665 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 21:06:36 UTC

Donald L. Johnson wrote:
Unspeakable ...
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_23057885/cat-found-head-and-paws-taped-inside-box

"I can't imagine why someone would do this to a cat," DACC Director Marcia Mayeda said. "Animal cruelty is heartbreaking, intolerable and usually a precursor to human violence."
If/when they catch the person responsible, the first order of business should be a psych eval.....

This is one person who should never be allowed to own a gun.

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Message 1358668 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 21:14:11 UTC

Americans where smart enough and brave enough to experiment with there constitution when they made the bold but silly attempt to ban booze where is that bravery now when it comes to gun control
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Message 1358670 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 21:27:43 UTC - in response to Message 1358668.  

If guns don't kill people, people kill people, then the way to stop this is to kill all the people. Oh wait....
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Message 1358680 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 22:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 1358668.  

Americans where smart enough and brave enough to experiment with there constitution when they made the bold but silly attempt to ban booze where is that bravery now when it comes to gun control

Maybe they learned that bans don't work. Like the ban on grass. Or the ban on crack. Or the ban on junk. They know they can't afford the jail cells!

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Message 1358684 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 22:06:38 UTC - in response to Message 1358670.  

If guns don't kill people, people kill people, then the way to stop this is to kill all the people. Oh wait....

Best agument yet

i'm coverted gimme my guns back all 3 of themm
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Message 1358913 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 10:00:42 UTC

The simple fact is........

And this has been stated by others.

RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

My faith. My bible. My truth.

Man is the only failure here.
His name is Jesus.

I am one of the few here to tell you about it.
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Message 1359009 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 16:53:12 UTC - in response to Message 1358948.  
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RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.
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Message 1359087 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 20:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 1359009.  

RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.

Trying to forget all the massive killing done in the name of the lord huh?

1) The crusades.
2) The inquisition.
3) The killing of the Native Americans.
need I go on?

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Message 1359088 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 21:02:01 UTC - in response to Message 1359087.  

RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.

Trying to forget all the massive killing done in the name of the lord huh?

1) The crusades.
2) The inquisition.
3) The killing of the Native Americans.
need I go on?

Here is a link with some more information. There is a good post in this link that describes wars done for religion, and not for religion, but I wanted to include the whole link.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101216201242AABY4JB

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Message 1359089 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 21:06:20 UTC

No, Chris is correct.
There have indeed bean more people killed in the name of religion than any terrorists.
Sad, but true.
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Message 1359090 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 21:08:42 UTC

Here is what Wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

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Message 1359111 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 23:26:40 UTC - in response to Message 1359087.  

RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.

Trying to forget all the massive killing done in the name of the lord huh?

1) The crusades.
2) The inquisition.
3) The killing of the Native Americans.
need I go on?


I have not forgotten and have, I am sure, discussed those things here before. I would not accuse you of trying to forget all the killing via Stalin and his ilk during the atheist rule of the USSR. I would not expect you to go for a simplistic answer.
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Message 1359378 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 15:08:40 UTC

Another interesting gun fact.
You can be jailed for wearing a t-shirt.

I love the NRA.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1359381 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 15:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 1359378.  

Another interesting gun fact.
You can be jailed for wearing a t-shirt.

I love the NRA.


Talk about hypocrites! If you follow all the links on that article, you'll find one from 13 news which states that the school itself has a statue of a soldier carrying a gun & grenade.

If they win, then they should be forced to remove that statue!
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Message 1359386 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 15:24:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359383.  

Well someone should tell them that they're there to teach, not make political statements. They want to do that, enter politics!
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Message 1359390 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 15:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 1359386.  

Well someone should tell them that they're there to teach, not make political statements. They want to do that, enter politics!

Uh...
I think Obama already been there and done that.
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Message 1359562 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 23:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 1359090.  

Here is what Wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

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I find the title of the "further reading" suggested interesting:
The Myth of Religious Violence: Secular Ideology and the Roots of Modern Conflict, W. Cavanaugh, Oxford University Press, 2009. ISBN 978-0-19-538504-5
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Message 1359570 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 23:49:27 UTC

interesting gun fact

wedge poliltics is used to merrrrr the conversation

it's not guns but the health system it's not the health system it's unemployment it's not unemployment it's our right to own a gun no no it's just people are bad , yada yada yada and so the story continues
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