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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
CU 1 EU 0 How long before these two eventually clash? It has been stated that the Iskander systems are being placed as a response to the NATO increase in the European Missile Shield. However, it's pretty obvious it's not to retaliate against the Yanks but Brussels. Just like Obama and Syria, a line is being drawn in the sand. Is Brussels that dumb that they dare to cross it? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Another interesting fact. The Greater London population is less than 45% White British. And note I said British not English. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
You also have to wonder how many of the White British population actually is. I know several families of our generation who have foreign fathers, and you wouldn't know it from a casual meeting. Germans and Italians who were ex-POW's, there was a POW camp in Oswaldtwistle., Norwegians in Shetland. And also a few Poles and Latvians, who fled over here and helped fight in WW2. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
And you wonder why I think that Europe and the world are taking the piss out of Britain, and getting away with it. What, you mean that other European countries don't have immigrant communities? I'm pretty sure Germans beg to differ, given that they got one of the largest Turkish communities in Europe. Or France, which is choke full of people from the former colonies. Or Belgium. Or Spain. Or Italy. Or Greece. Seriously, stop whining that the UK gets all the immigrants, the rest of Europe gets them as well. Besides, again, European regulations are pretty strict when it comes to asylum seekers and illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants and asylum seekers must apply for visas and what not in the country in which they enter the EU. Given Britain's geographical position, its fair to say that only the ones that can afford a plane can do that, the vast majority enters through Greece, Italy or Spain. Though it might be different for the UK, it might be that you guys opted out on that. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Then how come a large number don't claim for asylum until they get to the Channel tunnel, having in some cases traveled through several EU countries. Yes we know that most EU countries have immigrants from other countries, like the Turks in Germany, but the average ethnicity for most EU countries is bout 90%, for England it is below 85%. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Then how come a large number don't claim for asylum until they get to the Channel tunnel, having in some cases traveled through several EU countries. Why? Because Spain, Italy and Greece can't handle the number of applicants. However, legally the UK can basically send them back. If they can make a reasonable case that the person did not enter the EU through the UK, then the UK does not have to handle them. The only problem is that sometimes its hard to know where they did come from. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Another danger to an enlarged EU is the Roman Catholic Church, yet no one has picked up on this. Just how many of the current member states are Catholic? Just what nations to be added to it enlarging it? Member Nations of the EU The European Dream - We must go deeper Really? Just how deep? Will you force the Catholic Superstate on those nations that are not Catholic? "A few years earlier, in 1979 while visiting the country of his birth, the Polish pope declared, “Europe, despite its … regimes, ideologies and economic systems cannot cease to seek its fundamental unity and must return to [Roman Catholic] Christianity. … Economic and political reasons alone cannot do it. We must go deeper†And even back in 1975 Pope Paul VI, addressing the bishops of Europe, said: “Can it not be said that it is faith, the Christian faith, the Catholic faith, that made Europe? … And it is there that our mission as bishops in Europe takes on a gripping perspective. No other human force in Europe can render the service that is confided to us, promoters of the faith, to reawaken Europe’s Christian soul where its unity is rooted.†He went on to say that the Catholic faith was “the secret of Europe’s identity,†and when the secret was discovered, Europe could carry out “the providential service to which God is still calling it.†You think the non-catholic nations within the EU will acquiesce to this? "UKIP’s views are not new, nor are they unique. Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, in a 1988 speech to the College of Europe, said: “We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level with a European super-state.â€" Good on yer Maggie! We dearly need another like her now! |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Just because a pope says something about Europe doesn't mean thats what actually happening in Europe. The idea that the EU has an official faith or is pushing said faith on to the rest of Europe is just down right ridiculous. First of all, about half of Europe isn't even Catholic. On top of that, the EU has absolutely zero power when it comes to 'regulating faith' other than saying that freedom of religion is a value that should be respected in all its member states. And fight Europe all you want. You can only block so much. Not even that much, given that you guys tend to opt out of everything. You guys are like a little child, sitting in his room, and when the other kids on the block ask him to come out and play, he says no and stays in his room. And then gets angry when the other kids didn't consult him when they picked the game they wanted to play. Actually leaving the EU will only make it worse. Since you guys do want to be part of the whole free trade bit, you guys can be like Norway and Switzerland. You get your free trade. But guess what, Europe still sets the rules on what you can and can't do, and Norway and Switzerland are bound to those rules. Only they don't have any say at all on them. But hey, if you guys wanna follow our rules without the constant whining and acting like a block of concrete, thats fine by me :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Current Norwegian Economy Current Swiss Economy Ooooh, yes please, we'll take the Norwegian and Swiss concrete. Can you arrange delivery please? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
+1 So what price EU rules now? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
No one really wants to be Belgian: Country doesn’t grant a single citizenship under new laws for 2013 Nice. Makes one wonder what Brussels and the European Commission have said to that? Again, what price EU rules? Methinks they're only there for Del-boy - Only Fools and Horses! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
CU 2 EU 0 Gotta love this statement. Wonder how Brussels feels about being given "The Bird"? "I am categorically against anybody coming and teaching us how to live," he said." |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Ukraine's Russian-backed President, Viktor Yanukovych, has said he strongly opposes Western politicians intervening in the crisis in Ukraine. The opposition is furious after he accepted a Russian bailout, seen as a reward for rejecting EU integration. Ukraine, Putin said, was a fraternal state with close industrial ties to Russia. We should support our sister nation in dire straits" |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmmn, a Russian satellite to scare both Britain and Europe? How about Ireland leaving the EU and joining the CU? If so, Putin has gone a long way to make that possible........ ....Cromwell a nasty dictator as bad as Stalin |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 13 Dec 01 Posts: 212 Credit: 520,150 RAC: 0 |
What has really kept Europe stable has been the U.S. presence since WW-II. The EU (and the Euro) are attempts to substitute for that. I wish it would work, but it won't. See you later. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
French authorities now getting into the stupidity mode, French pub fined €9,000 after customers returned empties to bar - because it's 'undeclared labour' |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
What has really kept Europe stable has been the U.S. presence since WW-II. The EU (and the Euro) are attempts to substitute for that. I wish it would work, but it won't. See you later. Hahahaha, please. The EU and its predecessors were attempts to keep the Yanks out of our internal affairs and prevent Western Europe from turning into the Western equivalent of Eastern Europe. That has been quite successful. In fact, if anything, American interference in post war European politics has only resulted in further instability in certain areas (Greece knows a thing or two about that, given how first American politics and then American business has utterly f'ed them over). EDIT Seems the bar owner pissed off some bureaucrat. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
The U.S. has dozens of cities and municipalities which are filing for bankruptcy now (and at least one state which is testing the limits of debt and taxes). And the current regime in washington is starting to funnel money to them. Why isn't the EU doing this for Greece? Well to some extend they do. They have the whole economic fund for countries that have their own debt crisis. But, at the same time the EU is not a federation like the US. And currently the EU is far from popular in a lot of countries, so between the states there is almost no feeling of solidarity. The Dutch and Germans feel no real solidarity with the Greeks, the only reason they are helping out is because they see that the costs of not helping would be bigger than helping out. Still, they have to act towards the citizens of their own countries that they are doing their very hardest not to pay any more to Greece than is absolutely necessary, because else they might lose the next elections at home. |
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