New work download issues

Message boards : Number crunching : New work download issues
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

1 · 2 · Next

AuthorMessage
PanicMan

Send message
Joined: 4 Mar 13
Posts: 6
Credit: 210,555
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343889 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 23:24:44 UTC

I have been having the same trouble since i started running tasks for this project...i click update to report work and get new work and everything is fine at this point..it updates my projects status and finds new work... but when the download starts for the new work i will get max 15-20k (the other 2 projects i crunch for do so at about 2-300k)...this rate rapidly drops off to 1-2k for a couple minutes...the client disconnects and says "re-try in "..")..the problem is it does this continually and the time increases each time it fails..so after an hour or 2 it has failed so many times it is now waiting 4 hours between attempts..i have been restarting it manually since it noticed it cant even download the work as fast as the computer is doing it but even then it can take hours and hours of me re-starting this thing every time i come in the room or remember to do it again...any help greatly appreciated...a second issue..... the project is not sending anything for my gpu to do since yesterday..i did lower the additional work to .3 days from 1 day ..could this have changed something?
ID: 1343889 · Report as offensive
Profile Gatekeeper
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jul 04
Posts: 887
Credit: 176,479,616
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343896 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 23:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 1343889.  

Try reading this thread.
ID: 1343896 · Report as offensive
Voyager Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor

Send message
Joined: 11 Aug 00
Posts: 35
Credit: 37,199,633
RAC: 19
Netherlands
Message 1343897 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 23:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 1343889.  
Last modified: 7 Mar 2013, 23:43:28 UTC

Read the "Windows TCP Settings - Follow up - Help with server communication" thread, maybe that can help you.

You're to fast for me Gatekeeper......oh well, better good advise twice then no advise at all.
ID: 1343897 · Report as offensive
PanicMan

Send message
Joined: 4 Mar 13
Posts: 6
Credit: 210,555
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343903 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 23:58:46 UTC - in response to Message 1343897.  

I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help.
ID: 1343903 · Report as offensive
Profile Gatekeeper
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jul 04
Posts: 887
Credit: 176,479,616
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343907 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 0:10:10 UTC - in response to Message 1343903.  

I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help.


"new" machines usually have default settings for everything, aiming at the lowest common denominator. You already know the settings you have aren't working. The TCP optimizer has been around forever, and it WORKS REALLY WELL. It does back up your old settings, should you ever need or want to go back. And, as near as I can tell from the SG site, it works with Win8.
ID: 1343907 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1343910 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 0:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 1343903.  

I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help.

You don't have to run an optimisation tool, if you don't want to - that worries me too, if I don't understand what it does.

But the key benefit comes from adding one registry value, and that's easy to remove, or set to value '0', if you decide it's not for you. Details of the registry value to change are in the other thread, and details will be posted over the next few days of other easy ways to change it.
ID: 1343910 · Report as offensive
PanicMan

Send message
Joined: 4 Mar 13
Posts: 6
Credit: 210,555
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343914 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 0:56:17 UTC

Looks like it has helped..just downloaded a full file without failing..hopefully it continues..not much for speed but it stayed around 7k or so the whole download..was able to go into hard-drive and right click file to run in admin mode so it would work properly..no ill effects that i can see anyway :-).
ID: 1343914 · Report as offensive
Profile soft^spirit
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 6497
Credit: 34,134,168
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1343949 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 3:45:13 UTC - in response to Message 1343914.  

as with anything new or non-standard, I am keeping an eye out for any unexpected side effects. So far, I have started getting the work I ask for, no more 3+ hour backoffs!
Janice
ID: 1343949 · Report as offensive
bluestar

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 12
Posts: 7031
Credit: 2,084,789
RAC: 3
Message 1344049 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 13:09:41 UTC
Last modified: 8 Mar 2013, 13:10:09 UTC

I don't get many new tasks right now. Not even CUDA-based tasks.

Despite some operating system problems, I have one CPU-task reported on computer 6929589 and one CUDA task is apparently stuck in download, because I am unable to get the file cufft32_30_14.dll downloaded for this task.

I have attempted "Retry now" several times in the Transfers tab, without much success.

Is this perhaps of "Project backoff"? Probably not so.

As long as the task is listed on the server, it should be available for download.

Any suggestions appreciated. Two graphics cards "ready to go" here.
ID: 1344049 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1344053 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 13:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 1344049.  

The dll is missing in your boinc data directory, why? cold be for a lot of reasons. Since you use stocks apps, to try fix that you could Reset the Project in that host, that will make the boinc reload all the SETI files and dlls needed to work.


ID: 1344053 · Report as offensive
bluestar

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 12
Posts: 7031
Credit: 2,084,789
RAC: 3
Message 1344073 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 15:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 1344053.  

Apparently your advice solved the problem.

Thank you very much!
ID: 1344073 · Report as offensive
Profile JimHilty2
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 30 Apr 03
Posts: 75
Credit: 7,199,464
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 1344642 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 17:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 1344073.  

Me too. Thank you
ID: 1344642 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1344648 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 17:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 1344073.  

Apparently your advice solved the problem.

Thank you very much!

Now you could try to use the Jason´s optimized app´s, they will make your´s Nvidia GPU´s Fly!



ID: 1344648 · Report as offensive
Profile BigWaveSurfer

Send message
Joined: 29 Nov 01
Posts: 186
Credit: 36,311,381
RAC: 141
United States
Message 1344716 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 21:48:46 UTC

Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order.
ID: 1344716 · Report as offensive
Profile Gatekeeper
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jul 04
Posts: 887
Credit: 176,479,616
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1344721 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 21:57:21 UTC - in response to Message 1344716.  

Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order.


It is NOT "the program". And it really isn't a new problem. It's a network traffic issue, and it can be fixed as has been repeatedly mentioned here in various threads.

If you don't want to apply the (completely safe) fix on your system, that's your choice. But please, if you're not going to fix it, don't complain about the problem.
ID: 1344721 · Report as offensive
juan BFP Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Mar 07
Posts: 9786
Credit: 572,710,851
RAC: 3,799
Panama
Message 1344722 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 21:58:03 UTC - in response to Message 1344716.  
Last modified: 9 Mar 2013, 21:59:31 UTC

If you have windows host you must apply the fix expained in this thread

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71002

that fix the problem exactly to avoid a stalled DL. Try 1000´s do and all works fine.
ID: 1344722 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1344725 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 22:04:15 UTC - in response to Message 1344716.  

Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order.

What changed is that this project got too popular, too many people want to run it, and computers (especially GPU computers) got too fast. We're constipated.

This is a problem which the designers of the Internet anticipated 20 years ago. They designed a solution.

10 years ago - well, 13 years ago - Microsoft brought out a new version of Windows, called Windows 2000. Microsoft incorporated the solution which the internet designers had devised almost 10 years earlier. But, bizarrely, they never got round to switching it on.

So, you have a choice. You can stick with Microsoft, and say that Windows gets everything right. Or you can go with the internet designers, and switch Windows on properly. Or you can pay big bucks to the project, so they can throw hardware at their network connection.

But I don't think it's going to do you much good if you ask the project to stop being popular, or to banish other users so your downloads have a bigger slice of the pie.
ID: 1344725 · Report as offensive
PanicMan

Send message
Joined: 4 Mar 13
Posts: 6
Credit: 210,555
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1344755 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 23:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1344648.  

Apparently your advice solved the problem.

Thank you very much!

Now you could try to use the Jason´s optimized app´s, they will make your´s Nvidia GPU´s Fly!




Can someone please direct me to where there is an explanation for gpu preferences? I have done quite a bit of searching but cant seem to find any explanations of the settings..it seems like the settings could be much higher on most things but i dont want to change anything unless i know what the possible negatives could be (it looks like it only uses 20% of gpu and at pretty low resolution settings)...are these setting optimized to each user as you join or do most users usually change them?..thanks in advance for any help.
ID: 1344755 · Report as offensive
Profile BigWaveSurfer

Send message
Joined: 29 Nov 01
Posts: 186
Credit: 36,311,381
RAC: 141
United States
Message 1344762 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 23:34:37 UTC - in response to Message 1344721.  

See..here is where I agree and disagree. If there was a problem with the download speed or lack of data I could understand. To me this is a program issue. There is not a network traffic issue as far as speed. Give me one good reason why a WU downloading quickly should abort at 99.78% to just a WU that is just at 8.7%? Let that WU finish so work can be started. This is not a one time thing, watch it (I'm sure you have) they will stop in the high 90's and jump to lower ones. Sorry, the program can be designed to allow the WU to download fully before moving onto the next one. I have been running this long enough, and never had this issue until recently. Sure, it may be more popular now, so adjust the program to deal with the added people.

This is like watching the 1st place marathon running stop 3 feet in front of the finish line to let the last place person catch up!
ID: 1344762 · Report as offensive
Profile Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 May 99
Posts: 9954
Credit: 103,452,613
RAC: 328
United Kingdom
Message 1344764 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 23:40:44 UTC - in response to Message 1344762.  
Last modified: 9 Mar 2013, 23:43:45 UTC

See..here is where I agree and disagree. If there was a problem with the download speed or lack of data I could understand. To me this is a program issue. There is not a network traffic issue as far as speed. Give me one good reason why a WU downloading quickly should abort at 99.78% to just a WU that is just at 8.7%? Let that WU finish so work can be started. This is not a one time thing, watch it (I'm sure you have) they will stop in the high 90's and jump to lower ones. Sorry, the program can be designed to allow the WU to download fully before moving onto the next one. I have been running this long enough, and never had this issue until recently. Sure, it may be more popular now, so adjust the program to deal with the added people.

This is like watching the 1st place marathon running stop 3 feet in front of the finish line to let the last place person catch up!

There is no money to do anything but just keep running as is.

I suggest you try the TCP fix it does work and is how Windows TCP should have been working for the last 13 years. Don't blame the project all their servers run Linux which includes the CORRECT setting for TCP .

If you apply the fix no Wu's will abort they all run to conclusion as intended.
ID: 1344764 · Report as offensive
1 · 2 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : New work download issues


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.