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PanicMan Send message Joined: 4 Mar 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 210,555 RAC: 0 |
I have been having the same trouble since i started running tasks for this project...i click update to report work and get new work and everything is fine at this point..it updates my projects status and finds new work... but when the download starts for the new work i will get max 15-20k (the other 2 projects i crunch for do so at about 2-300k)...this rate rapidly drops off to 1-2k for a couple minutes...the client disconnects and says "re-try in "..")..the problem is it does this continually and the time increases each time it fails..so after an hour or 2 it has failed so many times it is now waiting 4 hours between attempts..i have been restarting it manually since it noticed it cant even download the work as fast as the computer is doing it but even then it can take hours and hours of me re-starting this thing every time i come in the room or remember to do it again...any help greatly appreciated...a second issue..... the project is not sending anything for my gpu to do since yesterday..i did lower the additional work to .3 days from 1 day ..could this have changed something? |
Gatekeeper Send message Joined: 14 Jul 04 Posts: 887 Credit: 176,479,616 RAC: 0 |
Try reading this thread. |
Voyager Send message Joined: 11 Aug 00 Posts: 35 Credit: 37,199,633 RAC: 19 |
Read the "Windows TCP Settings - Follow up - Help with server communication" thread, maybe that can help you. You're to fast for me Gatekeeper......oh well, better good advise twice then no advise at all. |
PanicMan Send message Joined: 4 Mar 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 210,555 RAC: 0 |
I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help. |
Gatekeeper Send message Joined: 14 Jul 04 Posts: 887 Credit: 176,479,616 RAC: 0 |
I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help. "new" machines usually have default settings for everything, aiming at the lowest common denominator. You already know the settings you have aren't working. The TCP optimizer has been around forever, and it WORKS REALLY WELL. It does back up your old settings, should you ever need or want to go back. And, as near as I can tell from the SG site, it works with Win8. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I have looked at the site..i am wary of modifying anything on such a new machine..but it seems others have been able to restore previous settings without issues..i noticed your post didnt mention windows 8?..thanks for the help. You don't have to run an optimisation tool, if you don't want to - that worries me too, if I don't understand what it does. But the key benefit comes from adding one registry value, and that's easy to remove, or set to value '0', if you decide it's not for you. Details of the registry value to change are in the other thread, and details will be posted over the next few days of other easy ways to change it. |
PanicMan Send message Joined: 4 Mar 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 210,555 RAC: 0 |
Looks like it has helped..just downloaded a full file without failing..hopefully it continues..not much for speed but it stayed around 7k or so the whole download..was able to go into hard-drive and right click file to run in admin mode so it would work properly..no ill effects that i can see anyway :-). |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
as with anything new or non-standard, I am keeping an eye out for any unexpected side effects. So far, I have started getting the work I ask for, no more 3+ hour backoffs! Janice |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
I don't get many new tasks right now. Not even CUDA-based tasks. Despite some operating system problems, I have one CPU-task reported on computer 6929589 and one CUDA task is apparently stuck in download, because I am unable to get the file cufft32_30_14.dll downloaded for this task. I have attempted "Retry now" several times in the Transfers tab, without much success. Is this perhaps of "Project backoff"? Probably not so. As long as the task is listed on the server, it should be available for download. Any suggestions appreciated. Two graphics cards "ready to go" here. |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
The dll is missing in your boinc data directory, why? cold be for a lot of reasons. Since you use stocks apps, to try fix that you could Reset the Project in that host, that will make the boinc reload all the SETI files and dlls needed to work. |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Apparently your advice solved the problem. Thank you very much! |
JimHilty2 Send message Joined: 30 Apr 03 Posts: 75 Credit: 7,199,464 RAC: 0 |
Me too. Thank you |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
Apparently your advice solved the problem. Now you could try to use the Jason´s optimized app´s, they will make your´s Nvidia GPU´s Fly! |
BigWaveSurfer Send message Joined: 29 Nov 01 Posts: 186 Credit: 36,311,381 RAC: 141 |
Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order. |
Gatekeeper Send message Joined: 14 Jul 04 Posts: 887 Credit: 176,479,616 RAC: 0 |
Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order. It is NOT "the program". And it really isn't a new problem. It's a network traffic issue, and it can be fixed as has been repeatedly mentioned here in various threads. If you don't want to apply the (completely safe) fix on your system, that's your choice. But please, if you're not going to fix it, don't complain about the problem. |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
If you have windows host you must apply the fix expained in this thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71002 that fix the problem exactly to avoid a stalled DL. Try 1000´s do and all works fine. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Ok...I know others have issues getting work....well not getting it but actually being able to FULLY download it, what happened here?! I have somewhere around 100 WU's trying to download right now and no work ready to crunch. This is NOT an issue with my computer, why should I change my system settings or registry? This program always downloaded this just fine, now all of a sudden it will download a file to 99% then jump to a file that is 10% bring it up to 50% then jump to one at 80% bring it to 95% then....and so on. It is like it has a case of serious A.D.D! It cannot focus on one file and complete the task. That is not an issue with windows, these seems like it would be an issue with the program. I never had this problem until recently, like others. Please, what changed?! I have over a dozen files over 98% right now and it is trying to download files at 30% and 7% right now while my machine sits idle, yeah, smart. Yes, I am annoyed. Maybe an update to this program to prevent this or fix what changed is in order. What changed is that this project got too popular, too many people want to run it, and computers (especially GPU computers) got too fast. We're constipated. This is a problem which the designers of the Internet anticipated 20 years ago. They designed a solution. 10 years ago - well, 13 years ago - Microsoft brought out a new version of Windows, called Windows 2000. Microsoft incorporated the solution which the internet designers had devised almost 10 years earlier. But, bizarrely, they never got round to switching it on. So, you have a choice. You can stick with Microsoft, and say that Windows gets everything right. Or you can go with the internet designers, and switch Windows on properly. Or you can pay big bucks to the project, so they can throw hardware at their network connection. But I don't think it's going to do you much good if you ask the project to stop being popular, or to banish other users so your downloads have a bigger slice of the pie. |
PanicMan Send message Joined: 4 Mar 13 Posts: 6 Credit: 210,555 RAC: 0 |
Apparently your advice solved the problem. Can someone please direct me to where there is an explanation for gpu preferences? I have done quite a bit of searching but cant seem to find any explanations of the settings..it seems like the settings could be much higher on most things but i dont want to change anything unless i know what the possible negatives could be (it looks like it only uses 20% of gpu and at pretty low resolution settings)...are these setting optimized to each user as you join or do most users usually change them?..thanks in advance for any help. |
BigWaveSurfer Send message Joined: 29 Nov 01 Posts: 186 Credit: 36,311,381 RAC: 141 |
See..here is where I agree and disagree. If there was a problem with the download speed or lack of data I could understand. To me this is a program issue. There is not a network traffic issue as far as speed. Give me one good reason why a WU downloading quickly should abort at 99.78% to just a WU that is just at 8.7%? Let that WU finish so work can be started. This is not a one time thing, watch it (I'm sure you have) they will stop in the high 90's and jump to lower ones. Sorry, the program can be designed to allow the WU to download fully before moving onto the next one. I have been running this long enough, and never had this issue until recently. Sure, it may be more popular now, so adjust the program to deal with the added people. This is like watching the 1st place marathon running stop 3 feet in front of the finish line to let the last place person catch up! |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
See..here is where I agree and disagree. If there was a problem with the download speed or lack of data I could understand. To me this is a program issue. There is not a network traffic issue as far as speed. Give me one good reason why a WU downloading quickly should abort at 99.78% to just a WU that is just at 8.7%? Let that WU finish so work can be started. This is not a one time thing, watch it (I'm sure you have) they will stop in the high 90's and jump to lower ones. Sorry, the program can be designed to allow the WU to download fully before moving onto the next one. I have been running this long enough, and never had this issue until recently. Sure, it may be more popular now, so adjust the program to deal with the added people. There is no money to do anything but just keep running as is. I suggest you try the TCP fix it does work and is how Windows TCP should have been working for the last 13 years. Don't blame the project all their servers run Linux which includes the CORRECT setting for TCP . If you apply the fix no Wu's will abort they all run to conclusion as intended. |
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