The limits only affect the size of the cache you can build up, not the processing rate. So once you are "bouncing off the limits" you will have a spare 100 tasks available for you CPU and another 100 tasks for your GPU. This will be more than enough for the CPU to get through the Tuesday outage of 3-4 hours. It will also be more than enough for your GPU to get through the same outage. Thus the limit has no effect on your RAC as, during scheduled outages, you will always have a few tasks in hand.

(Obviously if your GPU were something like a GTX 690, running 6 WU -3 per bank- at a time in the midst of a shortie storm the same is not true)

Dude, I once has almost 20,000 tasks in progress. And dang proud of it.
Not ONE of them was ever chucked in late, son. Not ONE.

Other that the 'casual evidence' that the DB was trashed by overwhelming amounts of tasks in progress, which I don't personally believe.........You give me one reason more why I should not be able to cache a week's worth of work on my hosts.
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The limits only affect the size of the cache you can build up, not the processing rate. So once you are "bouncing off the limits" you will have a spare 100 tasks available for you CPU and another 100 tasks for your GPU. This will be more than enough for the CPU to get through the Tuesday outage of 3-4 hours. It will also be more than enough for your GPU to get through the same outage. Thus the limit has no effect on your RAC as, during scheduled outages, you will always have a few tasks in hand.

(Obviously if your GPU were something like a GTX 690, running 6 WU -3 per bank- at a time in the midst of a shortie storm the same is not true)

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So I guess I will just have to back off some from crunching so much ,
I'm not quiting , just not so much a day... LOL

Well then, I guess I would just maximize what you are able to do with your limited connects. Reality bites sometimes.
The fact is, it's gonna hamper your activities when the servers are tied up.
Because it takes so long to download sometimes.

Best of luck, my friend, and I am happy to see that you are at least willing to try to work through it.

In Boinc /tools/ computing prefs , I set it ( temporary ) to only transfer 150 meg a day to start with , we'll see how that goes... and adjust as needed.
If I was ready to Croak , I could Unplug my Daughters laptop and do more crunching... LOL

Well, keep on keepin' on, my friend. Whatever you can contribute with your limited connectivity is still a bonus to the project.
And, your attitude certainly is.

Best wishes and kitty kisses,
Your friend and fellow cruncher,

Mark

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So I guess I will just have to back off some from crunching so much ,
I'm not quiting , just not so much a day... LOL

Well then, I guess I would just maximize what you are able to do with your limited connects. Reality bites sometimes.
The fact is, it's gonna hamper your activities when the servers are tied up.
Because it takes so long to download sometimes.

Best of luck, my friend, and I am happy to see that you are at least willing to try to work through it.

In Boinc /tools/ computing prefs , I set it ( temporary ) to only transfer 150 meg a day to start with , we'll see how that goes... and adjust as needed.
If I was ready to Croak , I could Unplug my Daughters laptop and do more crunching... LOL

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So I guess I will just have to back off some from crunching so much ,
I'm not quiting , just not so much a day... LOL

Well then, I guess I would just maximize what you are able to do with your limited connects. Reality bites sometimes.
The fact is, it's gonna hamper your activities when the servers are tied up.
Because it takes so long to download sometimes.

Best of luck, my friend, and I am happy to see that you are at least willing to try to work through it.

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

I have Wild Blue Sat Internet , with a max download limit per 30 rolling day period.

I have been thinking about limiting the boinc connection times ,
to be from 1 am till 5 am connect only during those hours.

How will that affect my RAC?

I have noticed that during the down times (Seti@home) that my Rac seems to drop
somewhat , untill I build it back up.
Even when the Pc is still crunching the whole time the network is down.

all the shorties that we have been getting has put me in the High usage as far as my download / upload limit goes .

I am at 80+ % of the Max I can do for the 30 day period .
I think I read that the Hours of 1Am to 5 Am is free and doesn't count against the DL Limit.

Anybody have any Ideas on this problem ?

Ok... I contacted Wild blue and They say that they don't
have that set up on their wild blue side , They do have it on the "EXEDE" side of the business , It would mean a higher per month cost and another 2 year contract .
I have been with WB now for over 4 years and am no longer under a contract.
Do NOT want to get back under a contract again...
So I guess I will just have to back off some from crunching so much ,
I'm not quiting , just not so much a day... LOL

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... with a decay rate I don't know off hand ...

RAC(new) = RAC(old)*d(t) + (1-d(t))*credit(new)
Where d(t) is the decay function, and t is the time (in seconds) since the last Recent Average Credit recalculation.
d(t) = e^(-ln(2)*t / 604800)

[source: The Unofficial Boinc Wiki - still the best documentation for some features]

Newer Boinc clients allow you to limit the DL over a specified time period. I don't know when that was introduced, so it might be advisable to update the client to 7.0.52 (see the dev thread).

If, however, your ISP allows unlimted download at certain times (I had one once that did that) then limiting your net time to those free hours makes sense. You may want to rethink your cache settings to make sure you don't run out, but get downloading the minute your free time starts.

I don't think the quota limit system allows for certain times to be excluded from the count - might be something to put to David.

As far as your RAC goes - that's a horrible measure of productivity anyway. If you bulk report there will probably be a higher fluctuation than for continuous reporting. As it's 'recent average credit', with a decay rate I don't know off hand, it will drop when there are no fresh credits added. Credit also depends on your wingman reporting.

RAC can't be more than an rough estimate of your work - and your throughput doesn't change (provided you don't run out of work) so your actual productivity stays the same.

Mind you, with the limits we have, a few hours of download a day might not give you enough work to last a full day - you might want to add other projects.

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Shouldnt effect it really unless you run out of work

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I have Wild Blue Sat Internet , with a max download limit per 30 rolling day period.

I have been thinking about limiting the boinc connection times ,
to be from 1 am till 5 am connect only during those hours.

How will that affect my RAC?

I have noticed that during the down times (Seti@home) that my Rac seems to drop
somewhat , untill I build it back up.
Even when the Pc is still crunching the whole time the network is down.

all the shorties that we have been getting has put me in the High usage as far as my download / upload limit goes .

I am at 80+ % of the Max I can do for the 30 day period .
I think I read that the Hours of 1Am to 5 Am is free and doesn't count against the DL Limit.

Anybody have any Ideas on this problem ?

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