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Message 1340446 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 17:06:21 UTC

The entire lab was shut down this past weekend for electrical repairs. We came back on line Sunday morning (Feb 24th).
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Message 1340450 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 17:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 1340446.  

Thanks for the update, and for bringing things back up.

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Message 1340452 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 17:16:19 UTC

One less potential problem ticked off.

Let us hope we don't have any more spurious power supply problems
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Message 1340453 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 17:16:25 UTC

Matt, thanks for starting it back up on a Sunday morning. Heavy congestion, as expected.
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Message 1340488 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 18:55:29 UTC

Thanks for putting in hours on Sunday. Much appreciated.

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Message 1340496 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 19:03:45 UTC

Thanks for firing things back up on a Sunday, Matt.
Much appreciated.
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Message 1340596 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 22:50:22 UTC - in response to Message 1340446.  

Here on the East Coast, we are still not working. If it is because of backlog, then OK, if not is there something I can do to wake it up on my PC?

The BOINC manager continues to indicate that it is waiting to contact servers....
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Message 1340645 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 6:22:36 UTC

Thanks Matt , to you and all the S@H Staff that work so hard ( so we don't gripe so much ) :)

Kudos to all of you !
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Message 1340653 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 7:16:42 UTC

Thanks Matt for the heads-up
A real pleasure to find again the project :)
Congratulations to all the staff for the repairs !
And thanks for having restarted the project on Sunday - Very appreciated
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Message 1340716 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 15:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 1340446.  

Thank you for the updates, Matt. Might I suggest that in the future, when this website will be down, that notice be posted on the seti@home Facebook page?
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Message 1340740 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 16:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 1340716.  

Thank you for the updates, Matt. Might I suggest that in the future, when this website will be down, that notice be posted on the seti@home Facebook page?

I don't think there is an "official" Facebook page. The one I found seems to have very little to do with this project.
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Message 1340763 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 17:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 1340716.  

IMO, a mass email notice would be very useful.
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Message 1340767 - Posted: 25 Feb 2013, 17:21:38 UTC - in response to Message 1340763.  
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IMO, a mass email notice would be very useful.

Dunno...a global email to all Seti users I suspect would take a long time to send and consume a lot of bandwidth in itself.
May not go out over the same link as the data, but just sayin'...
Matt would probably have some idea about this, as I believe he was in charge of sending out fundraising emails from time to time.
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Message 1341040 - Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 14:40:41 UTC - in response to Message 1340984.  

Most forward looking organisations these days are moving with the times, and getting a presence on the social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter. However nice that might be, Seti doesn't have the staff to maintain and monitor that sort of thing. Secondly it has to be accepted that Seti is a niche project in world affairs, and I would expect that our loyal supporters would be logging in here fairly regularly anyway.

It has often been speculated that Seti has many hundreds if not thousands, of "set & forget" machines all crunching away in deserted corners. What could happen is that regular notices of outages could trigger some people to suddenly remember that, and go and switch them off if they thought the project wasn't stable.

It's worthwhile considering, but we would need to look at all the pros and cons.

Seti does have a twitter feed ...
https://twitter.com/setihome

But it seems as if DA uses it mostly for BOINC posts not just Seti stuff.

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Message 1341579 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 9:05:24 UTC

Looks pretty good
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Message 1341618 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 13:50:21 UTC

Is there a problem with bandwidth?

I run seti enhanced and astropulse and its taking me over 8 hours to download a 366kb seti file and about 6 days to download an 8mb astropulse file.

This is annoying because i want to help with the effort but I am not happy with running my computer and paying the huge electricity costs that go with it (if you live in the UK you will understand) for my pc to sit idle for 6 hours, then do 3-4 hours processing and then sit idle again for hours untile the nect file downloads.

I get about 3kbps for about 20 seconds then the download stopps and says download retry in....... its usually 5 hours or something.

Anyway, this problem has been annoying me for some time now, every time seti shuts down for a day or two I spend about 2 weeks trying to get enough work onto my computer to process none stop and still allow time for the 6 hour downloads to happen.

is it just me that this is happening to??
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Message 1341624 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 14:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 1341618.  

Is there a problem with bandwidth?

Only for a year or 2.

Check out the Number Crunching forum for more info.
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Message 1341700 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 18:03:50 UTC

Interesting, it never seemed to me that there was a bandwidth problem. To me donwloading SAH takes seconds, AP minutes.

Except in the hours directly after a maintainance outage that is. So I thought that getting the higher bandwidth would primarily shorten the time until the project is back to normal operation after an outage at the current "crunching rate" (which will obviously increase due to Moores law).

But I'm not sure how fast the splitters are, so increasing bandwitdh could have a much lower impact than thought by many if splitters are (or will become at the higher bandwidth) the bottleneck.

Maybe you just discovered one of the extremely rare cases in which neither your bandwidth nor the download servers' bandwidth is the data bottleneck but rather some provider network that your packets pass between you and UC Berkeley? You could test it by downloading anything else from any Berkeley site.
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Message 1341706 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 18:29:54 UTC

There is a strong perception there is a bandwidth problem by those who want high RAC's. I've asked several times but the lab boys don't answer is are they collecting data at a much faster rate than we are processing it. If not, then in reality there isn't a bandwidth issue.

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Message 1341709 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 18:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 1341706.  
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There is a strong perception there is a bandwidth problem by those who want high RAC's. I've asked several times but the lab boys don't answer is are they collecting data at a much faster rate than we are processing it. If not, then in reality there isn't a bandwidth issue.

And there is a strong perception by some with low RACs that there is simply no bandwidth problem at all. Or that those with high RACs are more interested in their stats than the science. Both are untrue, at least speaking for myself.

However, your question is a valid one, and I would be interested in the answer as well.
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