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Message 1344294 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 1:52:17 UTC

Brinkmanship, Bluster, Rhetoric, The one thing in commom is that eventually someone is going to call the bluff.

The one saying I remember from my school days is, Dont let your rowboat butt, out do your battle ship mouth.
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Message 1344813 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 3:05:10 UTC

Even given the circumstances of total control that the N. Korean government maintains over it's population I am amazed that this regime has lasted until now. Most all of the other "closed" societies have crumbled under the weight of the information age. I wonder if there are enough enlightened people in N. Korea that could take over and run the country if it's leaders were rooted out and eliminated. A very sad situation indeed.
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Message 1344825 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 4:42:47 UTC

probably not most that could have, have either died of starvation or have left the country.
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Message 1344940 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 12:59:04 UTC

North Korea has one of the worst internal food supply situations in the world. Sadly, as ever, with dictatorships it is the average Joe who suffers, be it at the hands of their own government due to starvation, imprisonment or other malpractice, or at the hands of the "outsider" who comes to "liberate" them - for the majority of the population its a loose/loose situation no matter what the rest of the World does/says.
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Message 1345015 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 17:31:07 UTC

I wonder what steps South Korea is taking. What ever happens i think it will start there.
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Message 1345087 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:22:04 UTC - in response to Message 1344953.  
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Either way, it'll soon escalate into a conflict much larger which will affect everyone throughtout the world - Do we really want to see that happen?

That is the question that needs answering, not rhetoric blustering throughout government departments everywhere!
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Message 1345093 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:36:17 UTC

Sirius, you have hit the nail on the head.
Very much one for governments to get their combined heads around before we walk (crawl, blindfolded?) into a potentially nuclear war, something that no sane person wants.

(However we do want to see a better deal for the majority of North Koreans who just want enough food on the table)
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Message 1345100 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:50:01 UTC

I agree that I do NOT wish to see NK's posturing turn into a full fledged military conflict. I hope that their muscle flexing does not get to the point where it would require a preemptive strike on our part.

I would also hope that the misguided leaders realize, that whatever their rhetoric and bluster, it would be suicide to initiate an attack on SK, the US, or anybody else in their region.
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Message 1345101 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 1345093.  

Agree, but unfortunately, the signs have been there for the past 25 years, yet most of the West including the US were/are too busy at chasing big profits to see them.

& if they had, they thought/still think that nobody would be that stupid to start a major conflict......


....& that is what's scaring me! If things continue as they are doing, it'll happen for the simple reason is that man himself is stupid!
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Message 1345103 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 1345093.  

Sirius, you have hit the nail on the head.
Very much one for governments to get their combined heads around before we walk (crawl, blindfolded?) into a potentially nuclear war, something that no sane person wants.

(However we do want to see a better deal for the majority of North Koreans who just want enough food on the table)

The real question to ask, Are Obama and Jong-Il as smart as Kennedy and Khrushchev in the Cuban Missile Crises? If not, prepare to glow.

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Message 1345106 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 21:55:57 UTC

Sadly I fear that the NK leadership is of the mind set that says "We are in the bunker, we are going down, but we are going to take as many as possible with us". There is little reasoning with such a mind set, all one can hope for is that they will not take too many with them before their bunker (real or metaphorical) collapses around their ears.
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Message 1345115 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 22:14:38 UTC - in response to Message 1345103.  

Sirius, you have hit the nail on the head.
Very much one for governments to get their combined heads around before we walk (crawl, blindfolded?) into a potentially nuclear war, something that no sane person wants.

(However we do want to see a better deal for the majority of North Koreans who just want enough food on the table)

The real question to ask, Are Obama and Jong-Il as smart as Kennedy and Khrushchev in the Cuban Missile Crises? If not, prepare to glow.


A less relevant question to ask would be, if going by last names, shouldn't it be "Kim" or maybe "Kim Jong"?

Then again, maybe it's not so irrelevant. I know some get offended by not recognizing the difference in order with Occidental versus Oriental names. What other offenses have been taken as many in one culture do not care to know much about another culture?

"Le Vinh ..." ... two Vietnamese boys I knew when I was about 14. "Le Vinh", IIRC, meant "the son of Vinh" and this was followed by their first/given names.
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Message 1345344 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 14:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 1345338.  

“Hundreds of thousands of people -- including children -- are held in political prison camps and other detention facilities in North Korea, where they are subject to human- rights violations, such as forced hard labor, denying food as punishment, torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” Amnesty said on its website. “Many of those held in political prison camps have not committed any crime but are related to those deemed unfriendly to the regime and detained as a form of collective punishment.”

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Nice ready made "Penal Battalions" a la Russian Front 1941-45 if they do decide to start a war!
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Message 1345376 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 16:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 1345344.  

“Hundreds of thousands of people -- including children -- are held in political prison camps and other detention facilities in North Korea, where they are subject to human- rights violations, such as forced hard labor, denying food as punishment, torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” Amnesty said on its website. “Many of those held in political prison camps have not committed any crime but are related to those deemed unfriendly to the regime and detained as a form of collective punishment.”

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Nice ready made "Penal Battalions" a la Russian Front 1941-45 if they do decide to start a war!


Yes indeed, Cannon fodder. I just not to long ago read about that. In one of my history magazines. Fight and maybe die or we shoot you anyway.

I have to say that human wave attacks dont work. O yes you might overun a position but It is wastefull of men. Read the account of the Marines at Chosin during the Korean war.
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Message 1345396 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 17:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 1345376.  

“Hundreds of thousands of people -- including children -- are held in political prison camps and other detention facilities in North Korea, where they are subject to human- rights violations, such as forced hard labor, denying food as punishment, torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” Amnesty said on its website. “Many of those held in political prison camps have not committed any crime but are related to those deemed unfriendly to the regime and detained as a form of collective punishment.”

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Nice ready made "Penal Battalions" a la Russian Front 1941-45 if they do decide to start a war!


Yes indeed, Cannon fodder. I just not to long ago read about that. In one of my history magazines. Fight and maybe die or we shoot you anyway.

I have to say that human wave attacks dont work. O yes you might overun a position but It is wastefull of men. Read the account of the Marines at Chosin during the Korean war.

Or the Battle of the Imjin River and the Glorious Gloucesters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Imjin_River
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Message 1345415 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 17:36:40 UTC - in response to Message 1345396.  

Or even better, the film "Retreat,Hell" is one of the best Hollywood films alongside "Pork Chop Hill" to portray the Korean War.

Unfortunately I've yet to see Retreat,Hell released on Video.
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Message 1345484 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 19:13:04 UTC
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it is also available on dvd

http://www.rarewarfilms.com/image/cache/data/Retreat%20Hell%20(Small)-800x800.jpg
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Message 1345525 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 20:33:28 UTC

Solution
The West tells China, "North Korea's yours if you fancy taking it over".
Then it can be absorbed in to China with South Korea becoming just Korea.

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Message 1345542 - Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 21:03:14 UTC - in response to Message 1345529.  

Just one problem Nick, China doesn't want it!



Perhaps time for a re-think on China's behalf, can't see any other solution
to this problem.

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