Suppose that the school is in an area that is 51% muslim. Now the majority prays 5 times per day to Allah in school by the vote of the majority. I am certain that the christians parents would sue to prevent the kids from being force fed a different religion.

Religious education does not belong in public schools at all during the normal school day as there are children of many faiths in most schools in this country. It does belong in Sunday School as that is run by a church and the family has the choice of which if any to go to. Prayers of any particular religion also do not belong in public school. Please note that private schools are different as this is again a choice that the family makes.

Also note that religion != morality. It is possible to be religious and amoral or immoral. It is also possible to be atheist and be moral. Teaching of morality can and should be done in public schools - but religion needs to be left out of it.

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BOINC WIKI

OK, I admit it.
Some days I am just not a nice guy.
I say words some do not wish to hear, and I state truths that some do not wish to admit.
And so they call me names and try to put words into my mouth and thoughts into my meaning that I did not intend.

You call me a racist because I have a very clear dislike for illegal aliens.
You call me a bigot because I tried once to explain the origins of the 'n' word.
You call me a homophobe because I don't happen to accept the gay lifestyle as something that should be the norm.

Well. You can go on calling me anything you wish to.......
If that puts us on different pages and you can't deal with it, just know that I can.

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

Really don't give a damn what you think.

Well, the troll admits the truth. Go back under your bridge until you love and care about people.

It's your ethics I don't give a damn about. Show some morals troll....

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Really don't give a damn what you think.

Well, the troll admits the truth. Go back under your bridge until you love and care about people.

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Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

I don't find it very amusing at all..........

Rather laugh the cry about it. I'm done crying.

I suppose.
It's either that or run off screaming into the dark of night.

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

The only separation of Church and state is the one that forbids one Church to fit all at the federal level. As I have said here before Jefferson held Anglican Service in the Halls of congress. FULL SERVICE, not just prayer.

So he rented the building BFD.

No, it was allowed by Congress---willingly.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

I don't find it very amusing at all..........

Rather laugh the cry about it. I'm done crying.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

The only separation of Church and state is the one that forbids one Church to fit all at the federal level. As I have said here before Jefferson held Anglican Service in the Halls of congress. FULL SERVICE, not just prayer.

So he rented the building BFD.

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I should rephrase the question to ask what percentage of the US population purports that the ACLU speaks for them?

Card carrying member for decades now, and proud to be one...

+1

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Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

I don't find it very amusing at all..........

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

And start responding to crap from the ACLU and others who wish to disassociate this country from him?

I am personally getting rather fed up with the bullsh^t from those who say there is no place for God in this country's schools. It's not like they are spoon feeding these kids a Christian agenda. But acknowledging him in a passive way should not be a problem except for those anally implanted.

The separation of church and state does not mean that God cannot be recognized.
It simply means that the state should not specifically use it's means to promote religion, or one religion over another.

God has had a very large part of the founding of the United States of America.
Look over all the original documents, and you would be hard pressed to find many that do not mention him.

In God we trust.....or at least we used to.

I suggest to you, that the demise of God in this culture has led to many of it's current downfalls.

This is simply starting to irk me........ACLU seeks removal of Ohio school's Jesus portrait.

And what percentage of the US population does the freaking ACLU purport to speak for, anyway???


ADDENDUM...
I suppose the frickin' ACLU purports to speak for 100% of Americans......
I should rephrase the question to ask what percentage of the US population purports that the ACLU speaks for them?

Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I think the discussion has decidedly turned away from my original intent.
If it is not rerouted, I shall have the thread locked.

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

Oh, even the best pornographic pictures (of women) are being regarded as "obscene", aren't they?

Rather watch the birds and the bees.

Check out the title of the thread. What was in the original post?

I would now classify you as "coward".
For your information, my definition of "pornography" goes along the lines: "material, printed, visual or audible, that is produced with the anticipation that it will produce a state of sexual arousal in its audience, or is of such a nature that it produces a state of sexual arousal in an unintended audience".

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Why not? - Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?

Simply because I do not want to. Really don't give a damn what you think. Truly, don't really give a damn what you think.

The right to free speech even has it's limits in porn. Having sex with a beast would be one.

However, nothing ever done here or said by myself warranted actions done by others. Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Why not? - Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

OK, so no cookie, but if that is not the correct definition of "pornography" then what is?

Not going there--at all.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

OK, so no cookie, but if that is not the correct definition of "pornography" then what is?

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

From the list of films that ID has published he has extended the accepted definition of "pornography" in his usual manner. Perhaps he should withdraw from "our civilised Western Society" and join some order that espouses his rather remote-from-reality views?

From the Oxford on-line dictionary:

Definition of pornography
noun
[mass noun]

printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.

Nice try, no cookie...

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

From the list of films that ID has published he has extended the accepted definition of "pornography" in his usual manner. Perhaps he should withdraw from "our civilised Western Society" and join some order that espouses his rather remote-from-reality views?

From the Oxford on-line dictionary:

Definition of pornography
noun
[mass noun]

printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?