This has been a long time coming with years of negotiations as is too often the case with 'Big Business':


£310m invested in UK wind turbines

... The combined investment of £310m is expected to create up to 1,000 jobs directly - 300 more than previously announced - plus additional jobs in construction and through the supply chain.

The Green Port facility will construct, assemble and service offshore wind turbines, while the second Siemens site in Paull will be used to manufacture the 75-metre rotor blades...

Wind power is an efficient means of producing energy, he said.

"Offshore wind is producing 80-85% of the time," Mr Davey told the BBC. "We are the leading country in the world for offshore (wind) investment,." The public is behind wind power, which will "create a huge number of green jobs", he added.

Lord Chris Haskins, Chair of the Humber Local Economic Partnership told Radio 5 the deal was "a transformational moment for the Humber economy". "Within 10 years it is hoped that offshore wind will compete with oil and gas, but you have to invest to get the savings," he added.


Siemens confirm Green Port Hull wind turbine factory to be built

... Siemens said the factories would be operational in 2016 to meet demand for large wind farms such as Dogger Bank.

Green Port Hull was first announced in January 2011 and was granted planning permission in May 2012. But it has taken until now for a deal to be signed between Siemens and its partner Associated British Ports...

East Coast wind farms

Under construction

Humber Gateway - 73 turbines/219 MW
Westermost Rough - 35 turbines/210 MW

Planned for the future

Dudgeon - up to 78 turbines/560 MW
Triton Knoll - up to 288 turbines/1,200 MW
Race Bank - up to 116 turbines/580 MW
Dogger Bank - up to 7,200 MW capacity
Hornsea - up to 4,000 MW
East Anglia - up to 7,200 MW

Source: Crown Estate, Centrica, Dong, Npower, E.On


That's a lot of Giga Watts.

Is the "10 years" comment for costs or for total production capacity? If for costs, then that certainly doesn't include the cost penalty against the Fossils for them to go likewise clean...

There must be some good profit there for such an investment. And greatly less polluting than the Fossils dirt...


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There must be some good profit there for such an investment. And greatly less polluting than the Fossils dirt...

Of course there is as the current increases of utilities over the past several years show.

Increases by all to cover these costs? Yes, well worth it, but increases that continuously covers their high pay and bonuses? NO!

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Solutions? What is the problem? First you need a problem to have solutions for.

In order for there to be a fix for climate change we need to remove our moon, and change the tilt of our axis on this rock. This will end climate change. Just saying...

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... In order for there to be a fix for climate change we need to remove our moon, and change the tilt of our axis on this rock. This will end climate change. Just saying...

Nah... That's far too Old Testament Biblical for modern times.

In any case, without the moon, how are we going to get the tidal power schemes to work? (Or is that too much "Science Learnin'" to appreciate?)


One thing the Bible does teach is to not spoil God's work. Does that not include not polluting ourselves out of existence?


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And without the moon we'll likely have the "wobble effect", I'm sure that you'll just love that, the rest of us sure won't.

What a stupid statement.

Cheers.

And without the moon we'll likely have the "wobble effect", I'm sure that you'll just love that, the rest of us sure won't.

What a stupid statement.

Cheers.

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Ah, but the climate would be the same all year round. Save for them pesky tectonic plate shifts---Anybody know how to weld?

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The moon is also what keeps the earth from spinning out of control, and that would be extremely disastrous.

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Avians and Myrmicats, the Octospiders, and the Humans all living in one huge cylinder in space called RAMA.

The moon is also what keeps the earth from spinning out of control, and that would be extremely disastrous.

So then----we need climate change? We need it for human life?

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So then----we need climate change?...

So then, when the Deniers have lost the argument, their next retort is to argue FUD and Farce...


Meanwhile, physics continues regardless of how the American preachers and the American politicians and the Fossil Fuels industry might claim that pollution is somehow not happening...

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And without the moon we'll likely have the "wobble effect", I'm sure that you'll just love that, the rest of us sure won't.

What a stupid statement.

Cheers.

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LMAO, hardly have you won this argument! LMFAO! :-)

Your...

/government gun is all I need see to debunk your so called Faith in Climate Change. If it is such a good idea and sound science you would not need either the government gun or the Spanish Inquisition. LMMFAO!

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The moon is also what keeps the earth from spinning out of control, and that would be extremely disastrous.

So then----we need climate change? We need it for human life?

No, in this case climate change is a result not a cause.

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And without the moon we'll likely have the "wobble effect", I'm sure that you'll just love that, the rest of us sure won't.

What a stupid statement.

Cheers.

Good 1 Es. ROFLMOA!!!!!

Cheers.

Ah, but the climate would be the same all year round. Save for them pesky tectonic plate shifts---Anybody know how to weld?

Wrong, we would still have seasons, they would be different in nature to the ones we have now. This is because earth's orbit around the sun is elliptical not circular, and Earth's axis is tilted relative to the orbital plane.

What we would loose are the oceanic tides. Loosing those would result in a greatly reduced flushing effect in the estuaries and shallow waters, the worst consequences of which are rather unpleasant with accumulations of pollutants in coastal waters (on the other hand that might be not such a bad thing as it would show how much rubbish we dump into the oceans....)

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And not only that but with out the moon the earths axis would shift. And drastically. Mars aixs has shifted 90 degrees. So just think what the seasons would be if the Erath tilted 90 degrees in any direction. And it isnt stable either it shifts back and forth.

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And not only that but with out the moon the earths axis would shift. And drastically. Mars aixs has shifted 90 degrees. So just think what the seasons would be if the Erath tilted 90 degrees in any direction. And it isnt stable either it shifts back and forth.

The same happened to Uranus because of a collision with another celestial body.
If you could stand at the north pole of Uranus (you can’t, you’d sink right in), you would see the Sun appear on the horizon, circle higher and higher for 21 years and then circle back down to the horizon over the course of another 21 years. Once the Sun went below the horizon, you would experience another 42 years of darkness before the Sun appeared again.

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I vote we keep the moon.

I was always fascinated by what it would be like on a planet like uranus which rolls around the sun on its back... so thanks Julie - I now know and won't give it a try :)

I vote we keep the moon.

I was always fascinated by what it would be like on a planet like uranus which rolls around the sun on its back... so thanks Julie - I now know and won't give it a try :)

That's mainly because of how fast it spins, not the angle. If Earth rotated like Uranus but at it's current speed of 0.000694 rpm (1 r/day) it would be less drastic.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

But, in order to be fair to everyone on the planet, the moon must go. In this way the suns warmth is spread around to everyone---equally. I know how you leftist want things to be fair and equal. Being that way you MUST see that the moon must go!

I asked a question and you all are dodging it. I asked it of Dave C. but so far is has been tight lipped.

quote Dave C.--- The moon is also what keeps the earth from spinning out of control, and that would be extremely disastrous.

quote Me --- So then----we need climate change? We need it for human life?

ANYONE? anyone?

Also why do you need the government gun and Spanish Inquisition to push this very bad idea onto the public. If it was such a good idea it would sell itself without the government gun and or Inquisition...

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