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Message 1387409 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 20:59:32 UTC

Cloud is the future because it generates monthly billing and Wall $treet demands ever increasing profits.

Why is there any surprise? Adobe already did it to Photo$hop. Apple did it to O$X. Now it's Micro$oft's turn.

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Message 1389533 - Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 17:03:06 UTC

Yet more of the same EVERY month :-(


Microsoft Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities

release date: July 09, 2013

Systems Affected:

Microsoft Windows
Microsoft .NET Framework
Microsoft Silverlight
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Visual Studio
Microsoft Lync
Internet Explorer
Windows Defender

... These vulnerabilities could allow remote code execution or elevation of privilege. [... taking over your machine.]



PCs attacked after ... worker revealed Microsoft bug

... Microsoft released a fix several days after the revelation. It was not the first time Mr Ormandy had gone public with Microsoft bugs.

... details of the vulnerability in Windows 7 and Windows 8 that could be exploited by hackers.

"Microsoft is aware of targeted attacks that attempt to exploit this vulnerability through Internet Explorer 8," the software maker posted on its Security Bulletin page.

Microsoft explained that the vulnerability could allow an attacker to "gain the same user rights as the current user", permitting a hacker to change their target's PC settings. ...

... shortly before the disclosure, Mr Ormandy wrote that Microsoft was "often very difficult to work with". ...

... "I'm sure, however, that they would rather have fixed this vulnerability behind closed doors, without exploit code circulating in the wild...




How can anyone run an IT business like that?!

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Message 1389767 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 14:19:11 UTC
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Further twists:


Microsoft to ship Windows 8.1 in 'late August'

... the compressed schedule is in keeping with Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's new "rapid release" mantra. At Build, Ballmer told customers that short upgrade cycles will be "the new norm" for Redmond, and some analysts believe we should expect a new upgrade on the level of Windows 8.1 every year from now on.

Reller also used her WPC keynote to talk up Windows 8's sales figures, which so far haven't impressed OEMs and resellers...



Microsoft waves goodbye to Small Business Server

Small Business Server from Microsoft is "going off the air."...

... More to the point, it represents an unwelcome attempt to herd SMEs onto Microsoft's cloud. ...

... Now you must choose between the significantly more expensive "Server + Exchange" route or the also significantly more expensive "Office 365" route.

And what do we receive in return for shelling out more money to accomplish the same tasks today compared with yesterday?...




Looks like you've just got to get lost in the clouds!

No point in listing the links to the press reception of the latest of Microsoft's Tuesday patching up everything...


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Message 1390038 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 10:17:05 UTC

Hmmmn, how much longer before Windows is dead in the water?

Microsoft unveils reorganisation

"The software company will be streamlined around devices such as phones, games consoles, and services."
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Message 1390098 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 14:02:41 UTC - in response to Message 1390088.  

The "One Microsoft" strategy would seek to bring together diverse areas such as Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox, Surface, Office 365 and others.

I should have thought that it was fairly obvious that MS wants to design one single OS that will work on anything.

That sounds like Linux (hee hee)

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Message 1390100 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 14:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 1390088.  

The "One Microsoft" strategy would seek to bring together diverse areas such as Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox, Surface, Office 365 and others.

I should have thought that it was fairly obvious that MS wants to design one single OS that will work on anything.


LOL...
And they'll end up bloating it until it works well on nothing.
Just saying....one size does not fit all.
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Message 1397265 - Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 21:26:21 UTC - in response to Message 1390100.  
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... And they'll end up bloating it until it works well on nothing.
Just saying....one size does not fit all.

I wonder if that has already happened such that the MS Windows world just doesn't work for anything leaner or smaller?


Asus chairman, stating the obvious, calls Windows RT “not very promising”

Windows RT is obviously not doing as well as it could be. It was a complete no-show at this year's Computex, and Microsoft just took a $900 million hit related to unsold Surface RT inventory...


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Message 1397268 - Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 21:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 1397265.  

... And they'll end up bloating it until it works well on nothing.
Just saying....one size does not fit all.

I wonder if that has already happened such that the MS Windows world just doesn't work for anything leaner or smaller?


Asus chairman, stating the obvious, calls Windows RT “not very promising”

Windows RT is obviously not doing as well as it could be. It was a complete no-show at this year's Computex, and Microsoft just took a $900 million hit related to unsold Surface RT inventory...


In this case, it isn't the actual OS that is the problem as you imply. The problem with Windows RT is that its functionality is been so severely limited that it really has no effective marketplace. The restrictions built into Office RT (currently the only office package for Windows RT) such as it cannot be used for commercial purposes, cannot be attached to a Windows AD Domain, and does not integrate well with other MS software and services is what makes Windows RT such a failure. Microsoft could have done more, but killed it before it even had a chance.
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Message 1397307 - Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 23:17:18 UTC - in response to Message 1390088.  

T.A. -- it is that work thing that gets in the way for Microsoft.
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Message 1402242 - Posted: 12 Aug 2013, 17:24:08 UTC - in response to Message 1397268.  
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...Asus chairman, stating the obvious, calls Windows RT “not very promising”

Windows RT is obviously not doing as well as it could be. It was a complete no-show at this year's Computex, and Microsoft just took a $900 million hit related to unsold Surface RT inventory...


In this case, ... severely limited ... no effective marketplace. ... restrictions built in... cannot be used ... cannot be attached ... does not integrate well ... a failure. Microsoft could have done more, but killed it before it even had a chance.


Echoed in:

Despite Microsoft Surface RT debacle, second-gen model in the works

Nvidia CEO: 'We're working really hard' on follow-up to $900m disaster

... he believes it has a chance of success – even though the original Surface RT tablet was an utter flop – because it will include Microsoft Outlook...

... Sharp-eyed Reg readers will notice that Huang said "hope," and not a more-positive utterance typically used in a forward-looking statement about an upcoming product, a term such as "know" or even "believe".

Huang has reason to be cautious...



An example of strange Marketing to push instead for a Cloudy New World?...

Or?...


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Message 1403062 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 12:54:11 UTC
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Continuing the saga... Hasn't anyone got anything positive to post about Windows 8?

The latest news snippets:


Microsoft Patch Tuesday: The '90s called. It wants its 'Ping of Death' back

... The critical updates offer new versions of IE and Exchange, as well as critical fixes for the soon-to-be-retired Windows XP. Collectively, this week's rollout covers 23 vulns.

The highest priority for patching is MS13-059, a cumulative update for Microsoft's browser software that fixes 11 vulnerabilities in all versions of IE ...

Redmond warns that creating exploits to attack unpatched systems would not be difficult, even though the flaws are yet to come under active attack. ...



Lawsuit claims Microsoft misled investors in Surface RT fiasco

... alleging that Redmond misled investors when it failed to alert them to dismally poor sales of its ARM-based Surface RT ...

... Specifically, the complaint alleges that Microsoft knew Surface RT sales were miserable, yet company execs persisted in describing its tablet business in glowing language that was "materially false and misleading." ...



There she blows! Mid-October release date for Windows 8.1 sighted

... According to fresh reports, Microsoft won't do much over the next two months to warm developers to Windows 8.1 before its unwrapping. It has been reported that Microsoft won't post the release-to-manufacturers (RTM) build on either MSDN or TechNet between now and October.

Typically, once a new version of Windows is given to manufacturers to put on their hardware, the built code is also distributed to paying subscribers on Microsoft's MSDN and TechNet services. Subscribers on these networks are mostly third-party partners who can test and prepare their applications for the new operating system version.

This time, however, it has been reported that the first time anybody will be able to get their hands on Windows 8.1 will be as it is released in October. ...




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Message 1403233 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 22:03:10 UTC
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I am perfectly happy with Windows 8. Apart from a few hiccups in getting used to a few different ways of doing things I've had no problems.
Not being especially enamoured of Microsoft and it's apparent policies/ethos I have tried Linux in a few forms, but always quickly abandoned my attempts. One of the main reasons being the "beta like" feel to all the flavours of Linux I've seen.
Also, after a few years of Android phones I've recently moved to Windows phone 8. Again I won't be going back. Again there's that "beta like" feel, although here I'd say it's more like alpha.
As for Windows 8.1, Release Preview was available in June and the Enterprise version at the end of July.
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Message 1405191 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 19:26:08 UTC

Timeless?


Windows 8 banned by world’s top benchmarking and overclocking site

In an odd turn of events, Windows 8 has been banned from HWBot, one of the world’s top benchmarking and overclocking communities. All existing benchmarks recorded by Windows 8 have been disqualified. This is due to a fault in Windows 8′s real-time clock...


Quite an oversight for that. However, the real test is in how quickly it gets fixed...


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Message 1405192 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 19:29:15 UTC - in response to Message 1403233.  

... As for Windows 8.1, Release Preview was available in June and the Enterprise version at the end of July.

Any links for that? And how does that tally with The Register article?...


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Message 1405216 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 20:00:18 UTC
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Here are the links to the downloads

Release Preview

Enterprise Release Preview

I can't find the articles which list the release dates, but as you can see, both are out now.

October is the release date, these are previews, similar to the previews of Windows 8 which were out long before the final release of Windows 8.
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Message 1405248 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 20:58:12 UTC - in response to Message 1405216.  

Here are the links to the downloads

... I can't find the articles which list the release dates, but as you can see, both are out now. ...

All a game of confusing terminology?...

You seem to be describing "Windows 8.1 Preview is prerelease software that may be substantially modified before it’s commercially released. Microsoft makes no warranties, express or implied".

The Register is talking about the final version to allow suppliers to test things will work ok before the final version is sold to customers ...


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Message 1405284 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 23:09:03 UTC

I think the hint might have been in the word "Preview"
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Message 1407248 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 10:33:47 UTC

Maybe Win 9 will be a major improvement when this happens......

Bye Bye Ballmer
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Message 1407313 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 15:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 1407248.  

Maybe Win 9 will be a major improvement when this happens......

Bye Bye Ballmer

Only if they can have the Steve Jobs zombie run them ...

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