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 Bernie Vine  Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 
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Another Windows "give-away": I worked for a charity several yeas ago and we just approached MS and they gave us copies of Windows and Office for all 4 of our machines. As far as I am aware they have done this for several years, no one made a thing about it back then. I use Windows, I have a Mac, I installed Mint on an old XP machine and on a machine I use for e-mail and surfing. I use them all for what they are best at. Linux in its' pure form and Windows will eventually die out and Android will become the most used OS as it moves from phones to tablets to netbooks, then in maybe 10-15 years most people will store their files in the cloud and have a small portable device. Probably Google will own it all. IT is what the big companies want it to be. Unless enough people care, and I find most don't ID: 1516435 ·  |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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... So what is your real beef? Any overly coercive business that is detrimental to users and the wider world... IT is what you let it be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1516476 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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... Probably Google will own it all. Unfortunately, Google is far and away too good at what they do. They have no real competition. Hence why certain other companies are playing very dirty rather than making any attempt to innovate or compete?... And unfortunately #2, most people seem to be barely aware to even begin to care... Hence why IT is a very expensive mess for most people rather than being a useful helpful help?... IT is indeed what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1516479 · |
Batter Up  Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 
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Bill Gates once said if people are going to pirate an operating system he would prefer it be Window. It's all about market share. I run legal Win 8.1, it cost $15 a copy Bill knows what he is doing.Another Windows "give-away":I worked for a charity several yeas ago and we just approached MS and they gave us copies of Windows and Office for all 4 of our machines. IT is indeed what we allow it to be...Don Martin to the rescue.  
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Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 
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Not so sure of that... Google hit with take-down requests "Digital consultancy Bell Pottinger Wired said the ruling “makes for an unrealistic web†and “opens a can of worms†for the entire communications industry." However, whatever way this turns, lawyers will be winning hands down... “The lack of clarity from the ECJ on relevancy of results and whether or not this ruling applies to individuals in companies or even an entire brand’s reputation, will have lawyers up and down the country rubbing their hands in glee,†he said." ID: 1516541 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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That would never happen in the US of A. Freedom of speech is written in our constitution. In the US if someone wants something taken down they have to sue. They would only win if the statements were false.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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In that case, maybe Europe & the rest of the world will end up showing the Yanks that bigger is not always better. ID: 1516585 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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In that case, maybe Europe & the rest of the world will end up showing the Yanks that bigger is not always better. Not if we demand Google ignore you. Then only US well be able to find it. Don't go high hat on me; you people prosecuted kids for posting a name wile letting a politically friendly "news" paper slide, calling it an error. Freedom not just for one but for all.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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In that case, maybe Europe & the rest of the world will end up showing the Yanks that bigger is not always better. High Hat? Does the name "Edward Snowden" ring any bells? ID: 1516652 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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High Hat? Does the name "Edward Snowden" ring any bells? Wrong angle. You are for big brother US are not. What does a government's illegal spying have to do with freedom of information? There is no popular outcry in the US of A to get Snowden even at a time of supposed war. What does Snowden have to do with you getting Google to remove my link where I call you a "high hat"? That may or may not be factual but as long as it is not libelous I have every right to state my opinion.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Freedom of speech & freedom of information both have responsibilities to uphold... ...invasion of privacy is one of them! Another is choice. The freedom to choose which operating system to use without having geeks run that operating system down. The freedom of choice to choose which cpu maker to use without having fanboys/girls running that choice down. The freedom of speech itself which entails its own responsibility & that is to speak without making spurious/misleading/false facts. When one country/company ignores those freedoms in the name of profit, entitles those who are against that to voice their opinion. Again, bigger is not always better. ID: 1516767 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Freedom of speech & freedom of information both have responsibilities to uphold... Can we tie down Marketing to be "more responsible"?... Or is selling IT a cynical game of 'anything goes' (mainly misleadingly foul)?... Especially so when the public do not have a clue about what it is they are buying, nor the time or hope to find out?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1524200 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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And the games continue?... Microsoft's NEW OS now runs on HALF of ALL desktop PCs Gotcha! It's the five-year-old Windows 7, not touchy 8.1 ["Update"]... ... but it’s not the one Redmond might have wished... Android is a BURNING 'hellstew' of malware, cackles Apple's Cook Cook: "And if you look at a broader group, over a third of their customers are running a version of Android from four years ago," he claimed. "That's like ancient history."... ... [supposedly] turning devices into a toxic hellstew of vulnerabilities" – and Cook's slide of that quote added animated flames to the word "hellstew." If you ever had any doubt about the lack of affection between Cupertino and Mountain View, doubt no more. I hope Apple is not going to fall into it's own toxic trap in the way other companies have... Recrimination rather than innovation?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1524204 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Is this really the game? Why Linux never threatened Windows on the desktop ... Hindsight reveals that Unix had only one opportunity to prevent the rise of Windows on the desktop. That was in the final years of the 1980s... ... but the Unix world was too tied up in its own internal politics to deliver, and by 1990 the runaway success of Windows 3.0 firmly closed the door. Microsoft's dark view of Linux Nevertheless, as the so called Halloween documents revealed in 1998, Microsoft still viewed Unix, in the form of Linux and the open source movement, as a real threat... ... However there are also disadvantages, in that open source developers come to think of the ... community as their customer base, forgetting that the wider public are not interested in the intricacies of code or the nuances of ... Ethic[s]. They simply want something that works, and is easy to use. It's a different story on the server, but that is why Linux never became a real threat to Windows on the desktop, and why developers need to keep in touch with the priorities of their end users, rather than those of their fellow coders. Is that really the entire story?... Really only 'college kids' use Linux?... Meanwhile, why is there always so much negative press about certain proprietary desktop systems?... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1524903 · |
James Sotherden  Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54
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Martin, If linux would work to make life easy for the novice to get a computer up and running, That in its self would be a major advancement. And all those flavors that are offerd in linux sounds like MS releaseing a new OS every other year. How do you know which one to use for your brand of computer or what you want to use your computer for? There is an opportunity for Linux to grab some share with the fact that XP is no longer supported. Why dont you guys make a user freindly downloadable version that the average user can do by themselves. And provide links to software that they need to do what ever they were doing. Such as Office and what not.  [/quote]Old James ID: 1525072 · |
The Simonator  Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50
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Putting Ubuntu on my mother's pc required almost no setting up at all, bar stuff you'd expect like network details and printer. Firefox, Evolution (email), LibreOffice, F-spot photo manager, Totem (video player), RhythmBox (music player), all come as standard and do everything she previously used Windows for. Just how easy do you want? Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. 
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Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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Well Windows 8x will not get the old start menu back, but Windows 9 will and rumours on Tech sites are now getting more positive that Windows 9 will be with us before the end of this year so us power users can have a proper and new OS back. Die Win8x, die. Cheers. ID: 1538182 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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The main problem with Win 8 is that many corporations will not move over to it. As that is Microsoft's main cashcow, they've had to sit up & take notice. The Win 9 beta preview is supposed to be with us in the autumn so look forward to it. 8 doomed, 9 preview in fall I still think MS should stick to their original roadmap - Separate O/S for home/server/desktop & now mobile. However, we'll see... @Guy, yep after 3 years of annoyance from my laptop I've finally wiped out Win 7 Home 64 & installed Linux Mint 13 - best move ever. ID: 1538476 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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Well Windows 8x will not get the old start menu back, ...8.1 has a better start menu than 7. It is more geek oriented. PC are now for geeks, mobile is for the great unwashed. Times change can M$ change with it?
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