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dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
you my be right about the survey though if i were to by a gun today i would by it at a gun show not from a dealer and i would not advertise that i owned one. it is just getting to close to were the second amendment might come in to play. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Thanks but we have many firearm laws already. The difference between the two. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
More reasons for being armed. Perhaps it is needed. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Ummmm. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Mission statement Much more to the two founding documents then JUST the second amendment. Do you always just read the first chapter of every book and say you have all knowledge about the book and know all you to know on the subject? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Much more to the two founding documents then JUST the second amendment. Do you always just read the first chapter of every book and say you have all knowledge about the book and know all you to know on the subject? I see. So, the first amendment only applies to the printing press, not TV news. The second amendment only applies to muskets, not semi-auto rifles. The Soldier shall, be quartered in any house. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall be violated, and no Warrants shall issue. Persons shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, without a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall not enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial. The right of trial by jury shall not be preserved. Excessive bail shall be required, excessive fines imposed, cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. The powers delegated to the United States by the Constitution shall be held by only the federal government, it is prohibited by the States, they are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people in general. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
as to who is dangerous let me remind you that it wasn't all that long ago that this happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vyzoNCJvy4c |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22199 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
ID, you have amply demonstrated how to abstract in-absurdity In the process shown your true political colours. I must congratulate you on your honesty. Now can we move away from the inevitable debate about the flawed US constitution (past, present and future) and get back to the subject "Firearms. Who or what is dangerous". The truth is that a loaded firearm, in a locked gun safe is "safe", but the same firearm in the hands of a human being is "less safe". In the hands of a human being it can be used as a club, a missile in its own right, or to shoot at a target, living or otherwise; all these actions may result in injury to a human being, and that injury may result in death. Now if we want to reduce the possibility of death due to the use (or abuse) of firearms there is only one way to do it - reduce the number of firearms available to humans. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
If you wat to go back to the thread title then, Who is dangerous - All those who should be banned from owning guns, that's what the proposed lengthier background checks are for. I don't see how a sufficient check can be carried out with the present day 5 day check. (For those of you who have had US security checks, How long does that take? About 6 months even though the UK Goverment says you are a good guy.) What is dangerous - Quick reloading and firing weapons with large magazines. Thats why the proposals suggest a magazine with 10 rounds max. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
saying gun violence is a major problem belie's the fact that guns are used 100 times more often to prevent a crime rather than commit one. and cars knives baseball bats as well as falls in the shower kill far more than guns. and if you truly want to see how bad government can get disarm the us the last people to have a check on a tyrannical government. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
saying gun violence is a major problem belie's the fact that guns are used 100 times more often to prevent a crime rather than commit one. +1 Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
ID, you have amply demonstrated how to abstract in-absurdity Then the second amendment only applies to nuclear warhead tipped rockets. NO science payloads? And only the government can own them? Collectively, governments act like the individual. It is the science of the firearm that gave us the rocket that placed a man on the moon and beyond. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
ID, you have amply demonstrated how to abstract in-absurdity Life is full of choices. Make the right ones or suffer the consequences. I'm 48 and have never had a accident with a firearm, ever. If we want to reduce the possibility of death due to the use (or abuse) of nuclear arms we want to outlaw rockets, science payloads or not. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
If you wat to go back to the thread title then, That would make us a police state. Not a Constitutional Republic. When the police are better armed then the public... We have rule of law for a reason. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
if you check with the model rocketry people you will find that guidance systems are prohibited for private launches. if you go to DuPont to pickup a ton of dynamite and some amfo you will need a Federal Explosives License. and while it may not technically be illegal to build a nuke the fissile material is vary closely regulated. i do not object to this and do not know anybody that would. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
and on the nuclear card, like with guns i expect those that hold then to act as responsible adults those that can not demonstrate this need not apply. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
saying gun violence is a major problem belie's the fact that guns are used 100 times more often to prevent a crime rather than commit one. Do you have evidence, and please not NRA propoganda. If it were true then the number households where a gun is owned would not be falling. (see one of my previous for links) and cars knives baseball bats as well as falls in the shower kill far more than guns. True and if you truly want to see how bad government can get disarm the us the last people to have a check on a tyrannical government. If you think that, then either find a way to change your government system, or emigrate. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
That would make us a police state. Not a Constitutional Republic. When the police are better armed then the public... But with the morals of God. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
2. You don't trust your police May you have a temporary skin condition that turns you a few shades darker and then spend a couple weeks in Los Angeles. |
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