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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30649 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The moment ethics and morality are separated you have none of either. Fatwa is one result. The inquisition is another. The suspension of one because of the other. There is no suspension ever. They are identical. The dictionary disagrees with you and says they are the same thing. But your example shows the point I was making about separating them. Get taught by your religion that it is okay to kill people who "blaspheme" your religion. You realize on your own that killing is wrong. Which do you obey? |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
The moment ethics and morality are separated you have none of either. Fatwa is one result. The inquisition is another. The suspension of one because of the other. There is no suspension ever. They are identical. killing in and of itself is not wrong i would not kill anyone that was not seeking to harm me or others |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30649 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Get taught by your religion that it is okay to kill people who "blaspheme" your religion. You realize on your own that killing is wrong. Which do you obey? Yes, the religious zealot is without question the most dangerous of all humans. To be a zealot it has to actually believe in things that don't exist and ascribe to those things supernatural powers. There are even documented cases where they heard voices in their head from this supernatural being that doesn't exist and they act upon them and urge others to act upon them. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Do we have experts on mental health here? I'm not so sure. Encountering homeless people on the street frequently I do not think counts. And the suggestion that it is not a problem if it is being treated? Ludicrous! I have experienced the danger. Don't tell me it's not a problem when treatment is going on. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
What would be ludicrous is the misapplication of rights here on the issue of free speech. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30649 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
There are even documented cases where they heard voices in their head from this supernatural being that doesn't exist and they act upon them and urge others to act upon them. Yet we have a religion based on a twenty five cent bet and another based on the visions of a schizophrenic. Do we need more more examples that religious persons are dangerous? Would all the killing in the various names of the God of Abraham be enough? <ed>dang auto-spell complete |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I've noticed no one in here has had the guts to start naming religions that espouse killing if you don't follow their way. This is about GUNS not religion. Although both get tied to each other at times, this is not the place nor the time, my friend. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I've noticed no one in here has had the guts to start naming religions that espouse killing if you don't follow their way. Look, I am a scounrdel, not a scholar. I don't mince words, just opinions. Here it is.......... You try to take my guns, I shall kill you. That is it. MY words, my guns, my rights. Any more questions? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
I've noticed no one in here has had the guts to start naming religions that espouse killing if you don't follow their way. ============================================================= God of Abraham would be Jewish muslim and christian all worshiping the same god in different way's much to man's grief. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
I've noticed no one in here has had the guts to start naming religions that espouse killing if you don't follow their way. ======================================================= while I mostly agree your right's end were mine begin so on your property do as you please, but don't come on mine and shoot me if I disagree, I might shoot back:) |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
======================================================= while I mostly agree your right's end were mine begin so on your property do as you please, but don't come on mine and shoot me if I disagree, I might shoot back:)[/quote] I know who you are. Word is 'troll'. But, as you said, on my property as I please. Best not tread on me, sir. Gets ugly anything past the front lawn. Really dangerous for you. Best success is not to trespass. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
I have all kinds of proof that people without Faith are dangerous. In socialist countries they ban Faith and replace Faith with the state for worshiping. In Fascist Countries like Germany they took down the Cross and replaced it with a photo of Hitler. Both tendencies have been displayed right here. First they take away anything that looks like free press. That has been done here. Then they go after your children right in your state run schools. That has been done here and I see it here. Then they turn your children against the parents, done that here too. Then they come after your guns so you can't fight back. After all the talk of people here being educated here I find it real sad they don't understand history. Worse yet, they back the socialist/fascist wholeheartedly. You know by the time you see it it's too late, if you speak against it it will be off to the reeducation camps for ya'all. Ever read the book 1984? If you did did you understand it? LOL! I find stupidity more dangerous then anything else. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I have all kinds of proof that people without Faith are dangerous. In socialist countries they ban Faith and replace Faith with the state for worshiping. In Fascist Countries like Germany they took down the Cross and replaced it with a photo of Hitler. Both tendencies have been displayed right here. First they take away anything that looks like free press. That has been done here. Then they go after your children right in your state run schools. That has been done here and I see it here. Then they turn your children against the parents, done that here too. Then they come after your guns so you can't fight back. Once again you use the word socialist. Once again I ask you what is your definition of socialist. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
I have all kinds of proof that people without Faith are dangerous. In socialist countries they ban Faith and replace Faith with the state for worshiping. In Fascist Countries like Germany they took down the Cross and replaced it with a photo of Hitler. Both tendencies have been displayed right here. First they take away anything that looks like free press. That has been done here. Then they go after your children right in your state run schools. That has been done here and I see it here. Then they turn your children against the parents, done that here too. Then they come after your guns so you can't fight back. ==================================================================== And I have all of history to prove faith is dangerous. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30649 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Again, Godwin's law. For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30649 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
This is about GUNS not religion. I thought this was about Who is dangerous, having long ago decided inanimate objects only danger is being tripped over. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19060 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
In Fascist Countries like Germany they took down the Cross and replaced it with a photo of Hitler. I've taken you to task before about this quote. It happened in one church. Did you not understand the first time. One church. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
Who is dangerous 1) anyone mentally unbalanced enough to hurt them-self's or others. 2) anyone who has demonstrated a propensity for unprovoked violent's toward. others 3) anyone to stupid to know which end the round comes out of. one or all of these may be correctable. |
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