WHEN ARE WE GOING TO INSIST ON CRAZY CONTROL?
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8933221

Woman sleeping on bus bench set on fire in Van Nuys
VAN NUYS, LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A homeless woman sleeping on a bus bench was set on fire in Van Nuys early Thursday morning, police said.

The incident happened around 1 a.m. on Van Nuys Boulevard and Sherman Way. Police said the suspect walked into a Walgreens store, bought alcohol, walked to the bus bench, poured the alcohol on the victim and set her on fire.

The suspect then ran from the scene, but a witness, Erickson Ipina, was able to chase him down.

"I was following him and then I pulled out my cellphone. I called 911 and he just turned back on me and pulled out a knife, and he told me, 'Stop following me or I will cut you,'" said Ipina.

But Ipina continued following the suspect until police arrived. Investigators said the suspect, whose identity has not been released, is not believed to be homeless. It's unclear if he knew the victim.

Officials said the woman was badly burned. She was transported to a hospital with life-threatening injuries.

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something else to consider is that calafornia and texas both are larger than most of the country's the us is being compared to and that is just 2, of 50 states as well as protectorate's

What impact do you believe population size has on a rate of firearm fatalities per 100,000 of the population? It seems to me an argument could be made on population density could have an impact, though has some of the comparison nations have higher, and others lower population densities than the US, so it does not appear to be the primary cause for the higher rate in the US.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Doctors
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services.

Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188
Statistics courtesy of FBI

So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Nice stats, got links?

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http://www.ballerstatus.com/2012/07/24/ice-t-defends-bear-arms-guns-meant-protect-police/
"We need guns to protect yourself from the police."
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Diane Feinstein (Liberal Democrat) and Harry Reid (Liberal Democrat) have stated they've carried guns. If they can, why can't I?

Who hear has argued that you cannot carry a gun? If somebody has, did that same person argue that Diane Feinstein and/or Harry Reid should be allowed?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Both, mostly from the gall. And there is a lot of gall. LOL!

Would that be kidney or gall? ;-)

I giveth with one hand, and take away with another :-)

I growth knowledge from the stone. ;-)

I giveth with one hand, and take away with another :-)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however wrong it may be.

Clip ta de do da Clip ta de day.

My O My what a beautiful day.

Plenty of MoonShine on this Winter Night

Hey!

Clip ta de do da Clip ta de day.

You see, Day can also mean Night.

Since Most American Massacres happen during The Day,

by American White Males, we need to get Rid Of DayTime

and The American White Male.

SOLVED!

Got Magazine? Subscription? Good.

DEMON...HOT Nights

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Therefore in this case I and I am sure all the other military types will reject any wrong uses.[/quote]

Having never been Military, nor Paramilitary, I am going to go with the dictionary definition. It is the same thing.

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Janice

Ya, I have a 5 round clip for my AR 14 and 15. Can't hunt in my own state with it but can to the left of me.

Just another bit for your education.

A clip should not to be confused with a Magazine.

You are just showing your lack of knowledge, again.

"The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". " from the linked article.

It is the correct usage now regardless of the Wikipedia authors opinion. Historically you may have had a point.

For very good reasons, in the military you use the correct terminology. Failure to learn the correct terminology will find you doing some very painful and tiring exersizes.

Therefore in this case I and I am sure all the other military types will reject any wrong uses.

Ya, I have a 5 round clip for my AR 14 and 15. Can't hunt in my own state with it but can to the left of me.

Just another bit for your education.

A clip should not to be confused with a Magazine.

You are just showing your lack of knowledge, again.

"The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". " from the linked article.

It is the correct usage now regardless of the Wikipedia authors opinion. Historically you may have had a point.

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Janice

Never had a DUI. Haven't had a ticket since 1986 (9 miles over the limit). ;-)

Never had a firearm accident---ever!

(ANY FELONY ARREST)

Arrest? Really? So when they drop the charges because it becomes obvious they have the wrong person you still can't own a gun. Hey, just arrest everyone and we have gun control!

Unfortunately most of DUI's are only misdemeanors. A DUI is more than enough evidence that you aren't responsible, even if they drop it down to reckless. Frankly texting and driving is also evidence you aren't responsible enough to own a gun. After all a car can do as much damage as a gun so if you can't operate one in a responsible manner you shouldn't get the chance at the other.

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The ban on 30 round clips/Magazine{LOL}in D.C. are so ineffective that even a talking head like David Gregory who is in D.C. can get one, AND, did so on national T.V. That would make David Gregory one of them sloppy in nomenclature, imprecise in communication, bad at buzz words, and a law breaker.

(quote) Do you mean to argue that there is something uniquely violent about the US that leads to the higher incidence of firearm fatalities other than the number of firearms owned by its citizens?[/quote]
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yes a vary small vary violent group of citizens are not being incarcerated

but even if they were

In fact, the CDC has released final totals for 2010 and preliminary figures for 2011.

Those statistics show that in 2011, the U.S. saw 11,101 firearm homicides and 851 accidental shooting deaths.

By comparison, 33,554 Americans were accidentally poisoned to death last year; 34,677 died in motor vehicle crashes; 38,285 took their own lives; and 26,631 died as the result of injuries sustained while falling down.

something else to consider is that calafornia and texas both are larger than

most of the country's the us is being compared to and that is just 2, of 50

states as well as protectorate's

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