Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these
rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in
actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who
choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them
at all.

Good and evil resides in ourselves, that's true but I think that's because we're under the influence of higher entities, whether you should call them God or Satan or angels and fallen angels (demons)

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Dr. YEATS: These are topics on which it is desirable that the use of words should be carefully weighed beforehand. That must be my excuse. It is just as much adultery according to that view as the remarriage of divorced persons is. Nor do I see why you should stop at that, for we teach in our schools and universities and print in our books many things which the Catholic Church does not approve of. Once you attempt legislation upon religious grounds you open the way for every kind of intolerance and for every kind of religious persecution.

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Shame that modern Irish politicians can't see matters as clearly as W.B. Yeats did in 1925.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

It's strange when one realises that humans have the ability to play both of these
rolls. Why do humans look to the heavens to find either God or Satan when in
actuality both reside down here on Earth. Their both in us and it's us who
choose to be either one of them, that's if we choose to be either one of them
at all.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.

That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.

That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario?

Since good and evil are both inventions of man, I think we can put Satan and God in the same place. I know this doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

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The agents of Satan control religion.

Oh my gosh, the Welsh Chapel has had a revival .....

Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.

That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.

That's a pretty strong statement, Gary. Where do we put God in this scenario?

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Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.

That's true, Nick.

The agents of Satan control religion.

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Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
Is it the Greys?

I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians.

No, unbending ideologues are the biggest problem.

Well, yes. Catholics are anti-gay, anti-reproductive health care, and anti-progress. From a modern day, center of the political spectrum, moderate liberal's perspective, those are right-wing extremist postions. What's worse than that?

Guy, "biggest" appears to be an absolute, I thought you were previously critical of liberals being "NARW"s? "anti-gay" and "anti-reproductive health care" would seem to be authoritarian positions, while "anti-progress" seems to be Luddite; authoritarians and Luddites are not necessarily extreme right wing.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.

That's true, Nick.

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Guy, IIRC Major Kong stated that "there are only two things in the middle of the road, a dead armadillo and a yellow stripe."

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Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
Is it the Greys?

I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians.

No you didn't.
Besides, replacing Ayatollah with Pope?
Just won't work.

Ayatollah,
drink this special cola.
Ayatollah,
I made it just for you!

Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
Is it the Greys?

I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians.

No, unbending ideologues are the biggest problem.

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& Just what & who was he?

You don't know how to use google and wikipedia?

+1

That's surprising coming from you WK.

Why, I usually use unlinked clues from other peoples posts to further my own knowledge. Either to get more and sometimes better information to backup or oppose their claims.

Our friend who is taking a holiday, always, without exception, leaves things so wide open, so that with only a little searching, one can bring up many other sources to oppose his views, quite often from the same person. Unfortunately he has a tendency to lose it, so that we have weeks to wait until the fun can begin again.

Hey, Thursday IS a holiday here in the US. Our friend has every right to not write as he celebrates and passages the rites.

Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Guy, thanks for your brilliant, incisive critique.

Or straw man, take your pick.

Actually, in this case, I think he wants someone else to say it is the ....... before he does, so he can then jump on and say it's fair game.

Ayatollah,
drink this special cola.
Ayatollah,
I made it just for you!

Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Guy, thanks for your brilliant, incisive critique.

Or straw man, take your pick.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Religions aren't the problem, it's those who control them that are.

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The Kite Fliers

--------------------
Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
Is it the Greys?