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Spain & Gibraltar
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Gary Charpentier ![]() 发送消息 已加入:25 Dec 00 贴子:27228 积分:53,134,872 近期平均积分:32
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...tell me, who actually funded & armed the taliban in the 1st place? NATO. Wait a second isn't Brittan part of NATO?
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Sirius B ![]() 发送消息 已加入:26 Dec 00 贴子:21912 积分:3,081,182 近期平均积分:7
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Seems like we are forever cleaning up the messes created by colonialism. Hahahaha, love it. 2014 is not an answer....... ...tell me, who actually funded & armed the taliban in the 1st place? |
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bobby "snowflake" 发送消息 已加入:22 Mar 02 贴子:2866 积分:17,789,109 近期平均积分:3
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Seems like we are forever cleaning up the messes created by colonialism. Doing the best we can to help that nation ensure a group (Taliban) that gave aid and support to a bunch of murderers (Al Qaeda) does not regain a foothold. In case you hadn't heard, it has already been announced that the US will end combat operations there in 2014. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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Sirius B ![]() 发送消息 已加入:26 Dec 00 贴子:21912 积分:3,081,182 近期平均积分:7
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Seems like we are forever cleaning up the messes created by colonialism. Really, so answer the question you were asked earlier.... What are you doing in Afghanistan? |
Gary Charpentier ![]() 发送消息 已加入:25 Dec 00 贴子:27228 积分:53,134,872 近期平均积分:32
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British guns drew the line Okay, British and Dutch guns ... You didn't want and EU then and still don't. You should have given it back a long time ago Philippines, Federated States of Micronesia, South Vietnam, ... Seems like we are forever cleaning up the messes created by colonialism. Argue about North Rock, Swains Island etc, insignificant little chunks of nothing in the middle of nowhere. Malvinas, or did you miss that one on purpose? I suggest you take a trip and stand in the middle of Grand Casemates Square and tell the Gibraltarians to give it back to the Spanish. I'll let St Bernards know you are coming. So I guess you are ready to have another colonial slaughter fest and sow another half dozen centuries of hate. You never should have taken it in the first place. Lease perhaps. At least you got that right in Honk Kong.
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Sirius B ![]() 发送消息 已加入:26 Dec 00 贴子:21912 积分:3,081,182 近期平均积分:7
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Not a problem. While our boys were fighting in Europe which was deadly enough, the USMC in the Pacific deserves all the plaudits we can muster. |
Gone with the wind ![]() 发送消息 已加入:19 Nov 00 贴子:41732 积分:42,645,437 近期平均积分:42 |
Fair enough, apologies are due and I have modified my post accordingly. The source of my information did not mention its military role, only the dispute over ownership. |
Sirius B ![]() 发送消息 已加入:26 Dec 00 贴子:21912 积分:3,081,182 近期平均积分:7
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Thanks Chris. Being a student of Military History, I don't live in the past, but we do owe those men & women a lot..... ..unfortunately, I feel the majority of the world has forgotten them. |
Gone with the wind ![]() 发送消息 已加入:19 Nov 00 贴子:41732 积分:42,645,437 近期平均积分:42 |
British guns drew the line Don't talk nonsense, go and do your homework. Spanish war of Succession You should have given it back a long time ago Oh really? sez who? You? At least we fight for something worth having, what does the USA do? Argue about North Rock, Swains Island etc, insignificant little chunks of nothing in the middle of nowhere. I suggest you take a trip and stand in the middle of Grand Casemates Square and tell the Gibraltarians to give it back to the Spanish. I'll let St Bernards know you are coming. More Gibraltar info |
Sirius B ![]() 发送消息 已加入:26 Dec 00 贴子:21912 积分:3,081,182 近期平均积分:7
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Ah more Brit colonial thinking. Gotta just love it. What's the Yankees real reason for being in Iraq & Afghanistan? Why are you looking to take down Iran? Gibraltar was 300 years ago, what's your excuse for today? |
Gary Charpentier ![]() 发送消息 已加入:25 Dec 00 贴子:27228 积分:53,134,872 近期平均积分:32
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How can it be a British drawn line when the Spanish gave it up 300 years ago. The rights and torts that went with their agreement still exists. Ah more Brit colonial thinking. Gotta just love it. British guns drew the line. Now you get to the realization cutting off a chunk leaves the rest pissed and mad and gives them a century or two to plot revenge. You should have given it back a long time ago or fought on until you took it all and not just a chunk.
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John Clark 发送消息 已加入:29 Sep 99 贴子:16515 积分:4,418,829 近期平均积分:0
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How can it be a British drawn line when the Spanish gave it up 300 years ago. The rights and torts that went with their agreement still exists. It;s the Spanish trying to draw lines that do not exist ... It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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Gary Charpentier ![]() 发送消息 已加入:25 Dec 00 贴子:27228 积分:53,134,872 近期平均积分:32
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It seems that yet again, Spain is throwing childish tantrums over Gibraltar, which is a British overseas territory. Oh my yet another British drawn line on a map that no one likes. What a surprise.
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John Clark 发送消息 已加入:29 Sep 99 贴子:16515 积分:4,418,829 近期平均积分:0
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They should also keep their trawler fleets out of our North Sea waters, and stop plundering the fish ... It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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Gone with the wind ![]() 发送消息 已加入:19 Nov 00 贴子:41732 积分:42,645,437 近期平均积分:42 |
It seems that yet again, Spain is throwing childish tantrums over Gibraltar, which is a British overseas territory. Spain formally ceded it in perpetuity to the British Crown in 1713, under Article X of the Treaty of Utrecht. This was confirmed in later treaties signed in Paris and Seville. Spain does not recognise Gibraltar’s right to its territorial waters, which Britain says is guaranteed by UN law and a treaty between the two countries. A ban on Spanish vessels – particularly fishing boats – entering the waters has caused the most serious diplomatic rift between Spain and Britain for decades, with Spanish royals snubbing an invitation from the Queen during her Diamond Jubilee. Pathetic, their loss not ours. A spokesman for the Foreign Office said: ‘Any unlawful incursion into British waters is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty.’ Damn right too. Fabian Picardo, chief minister of Gibraltar, said: ‘Activity of this type is a scandalous act of aggression which is illegal, imprudent, unprofessional and irresponsible on the part of whoever authorised it. Damn right three. I have been to Gibraltar 3 times for a weeks holiday in the last 10 years and I absolutely love the place. A little bit of England in the sun. So naff off Spain or else. You saw what happened in the Falklands, we may not have a task force any more, but you are a lot closer and easier to get to. HMS Conqueror was decommissioned in 1990, but HMS Astute is about to assume operational duties, so keep your corvette toys back in port. And if you think you're going to get a single Euro, one cent, or a penny piece out of us as a Euro bailout when you go bust, then you can think again. Spanish tantrums |
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