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消息 1305100 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:41:34 UTC
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As the OP here this has rather gone a bit of topic. HOWEVER I am happy to go along with it, provided at some point we could get back to the Gibraltar issue. Why do Americans see our claims to Gibraltar as Colonialism?
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消息 1305098 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:40:16 UTC - 回复消息 1305082.  


How about the original 13. Sure why not. We can always go against the seller and extract damages from them for their fraud. Ready to pay?

SCOTUS is likely going to have to deal with several first nations land cases in the coming decades as these work their way through the courts. It is going to be interesting to see how they get resolved.


That'll be one way to wipe out your deficit...reduce the States from 50 to 13....interesting concept.

No, 50 to zero. We would have to collect from the colonizers of the first 13, seem to remember that being the red coats, I'm sure that would wipe the debt out. Of course if they couldn't pay up we would have to put them in chains until they did.


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消息 1305097 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:38:41 UTC - 回复消息 1305094.  

One can only wonder where America would be if Europeans hadn't colonised it!

Bountiful harvests for all and absorbing enough CO2 in its forests to counter global warming.


hahaha, global warming wouldn't be on the agenda......
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One can only wonder where America would be if Europeans hadn't colonised it!

Bountiful harvests for all and absorbing enough CO2 in its forests to counter global warming.

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消息 1305085 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:27:03 UTC

The way you continue with regards European colonisation, one would think that this upsets you.....

"The Mayflower has a famous place in American history as a symbol of early European colonisation of the future United States."

One can only wonder where America would be if Europeans hadn't colonised it!
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消息 1305082 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:22:20 UTC - 回复消息 1305079.  


How about the original 13. Sure why not. We can always go against the seller and extract damages from them for their fraud. Ready to pay?

SCOTUS is likely going to have to deal with several first nations land cases in the coming decades as these work their way through the courts. It is going to be interesting to see how they get resolved.


That'll be one way to wipe out your deficit...reduce the States from 50 to 13....interesting concept.
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消息 1305081 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:22:01 UTC - 回复消息 1305075.  

Edit: check your history books, Afghanistan was never colonised. Britain & Russia tried twice & lost,

Leaving a colonial mess that needs cleaning up ...
still not learning from past mistakes, now its your turn. The 80's should have taught you that lesson, but you chose to ignore it.

What makes you think we ever had any intention of staying? Just because that is the thought process of a Brut, it has to be the thought process of others?

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消息 1305079 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:18:04 UTC - 回复消息 1305075.  

OK, if we're going that route: -

How about giving Alaska back to it's native inhabitants?

Can't access your Libray of Congress website as its down for holiday weekend maintainance.

Glad you brought that up. Brought it from the Russians, if they had title. Aren't they also another European Colonial power, with all that blue blood interbreeding? Now Afghanistan, just the USA cleaning up another European colonial mess.


But according to you, it wasn't theirs to sell, so how about returning it to the natives?

How about the original 13. Sure why not. We can always go against the seller and extract damages from them for their fraud. Ready to pay?



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消息 1305075 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:12:34 UTC - 回复消息 1305071.  
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OK, if we're going that route: -

How about giving Alaska back to it's native inhabitants?

Can't access your Libray of Congress website as its down for holiday weekend maintainance.

Glad you brought that up. Brought it from the Russians, if they had title. Aren't they also another European Colonial power, with all that blue blood interbreeding? Now Afghanistan, just the USA cleaning up another European colonial mess.


So how about returning it to its natives?

Edit: check your history books, Afghanistan was never colonised. Britain & Russia tried twice & lost, still not learning from past mistakes, now its your turn. The 80's should have taught you that lesson, but you chose to ignore it.
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消息 1305074 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:12:12 UTC - 回复消息 1305067.  

I am sure Mexico would take umbrage with that.

maybe we can make Mexico a deal. They can have Texas and Arizona, We keep New Mexico and California. Oh and just to even it out we take Acapulco.

Arizona except for the Gadsden Purchase. Mexico sold that fair and square. The rest was spoils of war. Then we stole the land grants from the original Spanish owners.


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消息 1305071 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:08:59 UTC - 回复消息 1305066.  

OK, if we're going that route: -

How about giving Alaska back to it's native inhabitants?

Can't access your Libray of Congress website as its down for holiday weekend maintainance.

Glad you brought that up. Brought it from the Russians, if they had title. Aren't they also another European Colonial power, with all that blue blood interbreeding? Now Afghanistan, just the USA cleaning up another European colonial mess.

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消息 1305067 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 21:02:49 UTC - 回复消息 1305061.  

I am sure Mexico would take umbrage with that.

maybe we can make Mexico a deal. They can have Texas and Arizona, We keep New Mexico and California. Oh and just to even it out we take Acapulco.
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OK, if we're going that route: -

How about giving Alaska back to it's native inhabitants?

Can't access your Libray of Congress website as its down for holiday weekend maintainance.
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消息 1305064 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 20:56:14 UTC - 回复消息 1305057.  

Hmmn, I wonder if Spain & Portugal demand their colonial possessions back, how would the US fare with them being surrounded by Spanish/Portugese speaking countries on the American continent that don't like them?

Spain and Portugal did what the Bruts didn't. They gave them up a long time ago. Now the Bruts have given some up, but still claim a bunch. While the people in some are for the most part happy, it seems the Bruts have problems with people on their own islands. Wonder how that is going to work out when they have to give them up?

Of course it was the Bruts that caused the need for this inalienable right of return that so has the mid-east screwed up.

As for the USA, the problem will be when we find out France didn't have clear title to the land in Louisiana purchase.

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消息 1305062 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 20:50:46 UTC - 回复消息 1305061.  

I am sure Mexico would take umbrage with that.


Exactly! The same applies to Gibraltar!
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I am sure Mexico would take umbrage with that.
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Hmmn, I wonder if Spain & Portugal demand their colonial possessions back, how would the US fare with them being surrounded by Spanish/Portugese speaking countries on the American continent that don't like them?
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消息 1305056 - 发表于:11 Nov 2012, 20:37:36 UTC - 回复消息 1305053.  

...tell me, who actually funded & armed the taliban in the 1st place?

NATO. Wait a second isn't Brittan part of NATO?

Incorrect. Go back to the 80's. NATO wasn't involved!

Just better at getting a flunkie to do its dirty work and keeping secrets.

BTW, Britain is spelt BRITAIN

Isn't it Brutain?

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...tell me, who actually funded & armed the taliban in the 1st place?

NATO. Wait a second isn't Brittan part of NATO?



Incorrect. Go back to the 80's. NATO wasn't involved!

BTW, Britain is spelt BRITAIN

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Here's a hint....

"Although there isn't any evidence that the CIA directly supported the Taliban or Al Qaeda, some basis for military support of the Taliban was provided when, in the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency) provided arms to Afghans resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the ISI assisted the process of gathering radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviets.[9] Osama Bin Laden was one of the key players in organizing training camps for the foreign Arab volunteers, although his organization, Maktab al-Khidamat, was exclusively Saudi funded. The U.S. poured funds and arms into Afghanistan, and "by 1987, 65,000 tons of U.S.-made weapons and ammunition a year were entering the war."
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