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Message 1304082 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 17:50:36 UTC - in response to Message 1304004.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.

You want to be a third world country?

You haven't been to Oklahoma or North Dakota lately. have you


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Message 1304050 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 16:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 1304040.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.

You want to be a third world country?

No, but how else can the trade deficit be turned around? If our labor is becoming affordable to other countries, yes it's bad for our dollar, but could be a turning point...

Inflation coming home to roost. Yep, that tax will be paid and no political party can prevent that tax from being paid. And you thought Sequestration was bad?!

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Message 1304040 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 16:28:18 UTC - in response to Message 1304004.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.

You want to be a third world country?

No, but how else can the trade deficit be turned around? If our labor is becoming affordable to other countries, yes it's bad for our dollar, but could be a turning point...
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Message 1304029 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 16:08:34 UTC - in response to Message 1304004.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.

You want to be a third world country?

Parts of America already are.
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Message 1304004 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 14:45:12 UTC - in response to Message 1303869.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.

You want to be a third world country?

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Message 1303871 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 5:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 1303869.  

High oil costs could actually help. It costs more and more to send things to Asia and back...
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Message 1303869 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 5:25:10 UTC - in response to Message 1303861.  

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home

Hey, if things are balancing out that quick in the global economy, I'm ok with it.
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Message 1303861 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 5:01:50 UTC

Is the US now becoming an offshore location for manufacturing companies.

Foxconn 'considers plan to open factories in US'

Taiwan company's reportedly evaluating LA and Detroit as site for TV assembly plants owing to rising labour costs at home
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Message 1303841 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 4:19:54 UTC

Can I just jump in here with this real quick?

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Message 1303823 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 3:25:15 UTC
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Looks like some people tried to oppose the truth deniers.

ATHENS, Ga. — Charles Darwin earned almost 4,000 write-in votes against a Georgia congressman who denounced evolution and other scientific theories as “lies straight from the pit of hell.”

The symbolic votes in Athens-Clarke County were a small percentage of more than 209,000 votes won by Republican Rep. Paul Broun in his unopposed re-election Tuesday.


Charles Darwin gets nearly 4,000 write-in votes in Athens against Rep. Broun
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Message 1303816 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 3:01:32 UTC

Republicans have lost the culture war.

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Voters in Maryland, Maine, and Washington voted yes on ballot initiatives legalizing gay marriage. In Minnesota, a ballot initiative to amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage went down in defeat.

Voters also rejected the constant right-wing demagoguery on reproductive rights. They defeated Amendment 6 in Florida, which would have seriously restricted funding of abortion by taking away insurance coverage of abortion for many state employees.


Social conservatives it seems your days on the US political stage are numbered. Your continuing strangle hold on the Republican Party platform all but guarantee further Democratic Party victories. Your party will either handle this truth and dump you, or follow the Whigs into the history books.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1303801 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 2:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 1303681.  
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Skill, to a large degree, the developing schism within the Catholic church is similar to the schism with the Republican party.

A large proportion (probably a solid majority here) of Catholics are NOT supportive of the birth control diktat of the church. Also a fair proportion don't support the Churches absolute position on abortion. Further, on issues regarding women's role within the church, celebacy of priests, protection of predators within the church, and a number of other issues, the Church is doing itself more harm than help. These plus a retreat from social justice positions have meant that large numbers of Catholics have left the church -- either to become non-observers, or to join in increasing numbers some evangelical church.

The Republican party is faced with somewhat similar dilemmas - the antipathy toward the poor, toward immigrants, toward gays is attracting far right advocates who previously might have been outside of the party, while losing moderates, gays (who might well support rational fiscal conservatism), hispanics and the young.

[OT]On the subject of Catholics and birth control, the women of the church (even nuns) have strayed from the Vatican's stance... Here's one example. http://www.npr.org/2012/07/25/157356092/bishop-explains-vaticans-criticism-of-u-s-nuns[/OT]
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Message 1303768 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 23:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 1303739.  

Time warp? I think all of you are completely missing the mark!

The tea idiots are throwbacks to the 4th century!! Absolutely no different that any other fundamentalist religion.

For many years they were taken in by the democrat party. Then sometime around the 60's the democrats threw them out. It took until the 80's before the idiots settled into the Republican party. Now that they seem to have gone off and formed the Tea idiots perhaps the Republicans can finish throwing them out and they can become a totally marginalized non issue.



Agreed, the Republican Party need a modern version of LBJ (or Lincoln if you want to go further back for leaders that transformed their party's base). W may have been able to do it, since then I don't think any of the serious contenders have thought of trying.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1303764 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 23:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 1303739.  

Time warp? I think all of you are completely missing the mark!

The tea idiots are throwbacks to the 4th century!! Absolutely no different that any other fundamentalist religion.

For many years they were taken in by the democrat party. Then sometime around the 60's the democrats threw them out. It took until the 80's before the idiots settled into the Republican party. Now that they seem to have gone off and formed the Tea idiots perhaps the Republicans can finish throwing them out and they can become a totally marginalized non issue.


I'll agree with that. It's almost a cult-like situation.


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Message 1303739 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 22:22:55 UTC

Time warp? I think all of you are completely missing the mark!

The tea idiots are throwbacks to the 4th century!! Absolutely no different that any other fundamentalist religion.

For many years they were taken in by the democrat party. Then sometime around the 60's the democrats threw them out. It took until the 80's before the idiots settled into the Republican party. Now that they seem to have gone off and formed the Tea idiots perhaps the Republicans can finish throwing them out and they can become a totally marginalized non issue.


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Message 1303716 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:52:04 UTC

Now that's already being picked up on here, with the government considering only paying child support for the 1st 2. 40 years well overdue, but whether or not it'll be implemented is another matter.

Oh heck, I can't keep up with this, I'm going to have to take to my bed with a fit of the vapours.

Yet another post where I agree with Sirius.

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Message 1303714 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:37:00 UTC - in response to Message 1303681.  
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The Republican party is faced with somewhat similar dilemmas - the antipathy toward the poor, toward immigrants, toward gays is attracting far right advocates who previously might have been outside of the party, while losing moderates, gays (who might well support rational fiscal conservatism), Hispanics and the young.


These are the very points the NewsNight analysis came up with, and the ageing religious white majority came up with. This drives the policy agenda against all the groups you mentioned. You can also add - African blacks, Latinos, women (50% of the population), etc.

Having policies which in part alienates these large minority groups means there are not enough aged white males being minted to give the votes to counter balance at elections, etc. Which is why I suggested they were stuck in a time warp, probably better chosen from the post war area.
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Message 1303697 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 20:15:36 UTC - in response to Message 1303684.  

Check out the birth rate in Italy -- a nominally Catholic country.
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Message 1303684 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 1303683.  

Now one can assume that the parents stopped having sex after the children were born or reality where the parents are being responsible to themselves and the rest of the world by not popping out 12+ kids that they cannot afford or support.


Now that's already being picked up on here, with the government considering only paying child support for the 1st 2.

40 years well overdue, but whether or not it'll be implemented is another matter.
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